[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
You cannot safely add Prototype to the target pages. Prototype changes javascript in general, not just jQuery. It adds methods to native objects. If the target pages are already running jQuery in noConflict() mode then you won't interfere, but if you put their pages in noConflict() mode then you will mess up their javascript that relies on it. There could also be custom code that relies on for (each in obj) that will break if you add prototype, and there is no way to check for that. You will also be breaking pages that use mootools, which does not have a noConflict() mode. Prototype does not have a noConflict() mode because the theory behind it prevents that from happening, once native objects are extended there is no way to unextend them. You are going to have to use jQuery or Dojo for this project if you want to add a library to their pages. Probably jQuery as it only adds the jQuery variable to the global namespace, and even then you should use noConflict() mode and return the $ to its previous state before exiting your code, so in case they are using jQuery you give them back use of $ before you are done. If you want to do the least potential damage by adding Prototype to others pages, then check to make sure it doesn't already exist, and then check to make sure $ doesn't already exist, and if it does disable any special effects or give a warning saying that this feature cannot be used because it will interfere with the existing code. Good luck! On Jul 9, 12:10 pm, Diodeus diod...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use Prototype. I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
If other libraries or js code extend the native objects with the same methods, the one included last wins. In this case, it will almost always be prototype because he is loading it dynamically. On Jul 10, 1:04 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: Besides the $ function and using for(var in ) for iteration over an array. I can't think of other conflicts prototype would cause with existing code. -- http://positionabsolute.net On Jul 10, 2:41 pm, Josh Powell seas...@gmail.com wrote: You cannot safely add Prototype to the target pages. Prototype changes javascript in general, not just jQuery. It adds methods to native objects. If the target pages are already running jQuery in noConflict() mode then you won't interfere, but if you put their pages in noConflict() mode then you will mess up their javascript that relies on it. There could also be custom code that relies on for (each in obj) that will break if you add prototype, and there is no way to check for that. You will also be breaking pages that use mootools, which does not have a noConflict() mode. Prototype does not have a noConflict() mode because the theory behind it prevents that from happening, once native objects are extended there is no way to unextend them. You are going to have to use jQuery or Dojo for this project if you want to add a library to their pages. Probably jQuery as it only adds the jQuery variable to the global namespace, and even then you should use noConflict() mode and return the $ to its previous state before exiting your code, so in case they are using jQuery you give them back use of $ before you are done. If you want to do the least potential damage by adding Prototype to others pages, then check to make sure it doesn't already exist, and then check to make sure $ doesn't already exist, and if it does disable any special effects or give a warning saying that this feature cannot be used because it will interfere with the existing code. Good luck! On Jul 9, 12:10 pm, Diodeus diod...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use Prototype. I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
You could check for the jQuery object - this will get round jQuery...
if(jQuery) {
..
}
There must be prototype only objects/functions/classes you can test for in
prototype
I am not sure about other libraries but i think extjs uses the Ext.
namespace and similar with yahoo
- Original Message -
From: Diodeus diod...@gmail.com
To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Alternatives to Protosafe?
I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people
to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would
like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use
Prototype.
I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target
pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering
with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Prototype script.aculo.us group.
To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
I'd rather not test for conflicts, but rather to safely coexist.
On Jul 9, 4:48 pm, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com
wrote:
You could check for the jQuery object - this will get round jQuery...
if(jQuery) {
..
}
There must be prototype only objects/functions/classes you can test for in
prototype
I am not sure about other libraries but i think extjs uses the Ext.
namespace and similar with yahoo
- Original Message -
From: Diodeus diod...@gmail.com
To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Alternatives to Protosafe?
I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people
to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would
like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use
Prototype.
I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target
pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering
with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Prototype script.aculo.us group.
To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
Alex, he can just check for Prototype :)
if ( Prototype ) {
.
}
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:48:45 pm
To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
From: Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
You could check for the jQuery object - this will get round jQuery...
if(jQuery) {
..
}
There must be prototype only objects/functions/classes you can test for in
prototype
I am not sure about other libraries but i think extjs uses the Ext.
namespace and similar with yahoo
- Original Message -
From: Diodeus diod...@gmail.com
To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Alternatives to Protosafe?
I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people
to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would
like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use
Prototype.
I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target
pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering
with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Prototype script.aculo.us group.
To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
Doh!... didnt think of that
- Original Message -
From: waldron.r...@gmail.com
To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:58 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
Alex, he can just check for Prototype :)
if ( Prototype ) {
.
}
-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:48:45 pm
To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
From: Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Alternatives to Protosafe?
You could check for the jQuery object - this will get round jQuery...
if(jQuery) {
..
}
There must be prototype only objects/functions/classes you can test for in
prototype
I am not sure about other libraries but i think extjs uses the Ext.
namespace and similar with yahoo
- Original Message -
From: Diodeus diod...@gmail.com
To: Prototype script.aculo.us
prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Alternatives to Protosafe?
I am working on a content delivery solution. This would allow people
to include some content on their page by adding a script tag. I would
like to add some slickness to the content, so I would like to use
Prototype.
I'm looking for some suggestions to safely add Prototype to the target
pages (I'm inserting a script tag dynamically) without interfering
with an existing copy of Prototype, jQuery or other libraries.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Prototype script.aculo.us group.
To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
