Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-31 Thread Jason Westbrook
I was able to dig this one out of archive.org and I rewrote it a bit -
added a jsfiddle so that people can play with it etc


https://github.com/jwestbrook/Prototype.3DImageReflection


Just look at all of my github repos - they are all PrototypeJS libraries



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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amen... that would definately be a good move!  There are a number of
 things on scripteka that are dead and gone (broken links)


 On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Victor vkhomyac...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm actually planning on taking whatever is still available on scripteka
 and rehosting it on github so that others can find it, see examples of it
 working, post issues and comment on the scripts

 Good idea! Do you have something to show already? Examples and issue
 tracking sounds good.

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-30 Thread Victor



 I'm actually planning on taking whatever is still available on scripteka 
 and rehosting it on github so that others can find it, see examples of it 
 working, post issues and comment on the scripts

 Good idea! Do you have something to show already? Examples and issue 
tracking sounds good.

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-30 Thread Phil Petree
Amen... that would definately be a good move!  There are a number of things
on scripteka that are dead and gone (broken links)

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Victor vkhomyac...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm actually planning on taking whatever is still available on scripteka
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 working, post issues and comment on the scripts

 Good idea! Do you have something to show already? Examples and issue
 tracking sounds good.

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-02 Thread Jason Westbrook
I'm actually planning on taking whatever is still available on scripteka
and rehosting it on github so that others can find it, see examples of it
working, post issues and comment on the scripts

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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM, kstubs kst...@gmail.com wrote:

 ..and related to all of this is a site like this:
 http://scripteka.com

 Where a ton of the script that use to be available, well the
 underlying/host site for the code have dropped off the WWW universe.
 Very sad :(  A lot of broken links.

 Karl..


 On Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:54:42 AM UTC-7, isurge wrote:

 We let our IE 6 clients go.

 On 12/1/12 1:48 AM, petrob wrote:
  I understood why a lot of companies still insist on using IE6 when at
  a large hypermarket chain the accounting staff pointed out that their
  very expensive accounting software can only be run on IE6 or on IE9+.
  The cost efficient solution for them is to go on running their legal
  copies of XP on some hundreds of computers with IE6 and ban any
  acive-x objects and script (java, javascript, flash etc) on the
  company server. So, it is the operating system that is behind the
  longevity of IE in the corporate field and , unfortunately, it will
  remain the same for a long time.
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-01 Thread James Brake

We let our IE 6 clients go.

On 12/1/12 1:48 AM, petrob wrote:
I understood why a lot of companies still insist on using IE6 when at 
a large hypermarket chain the accounting staff pointed out that their 
very expensive accounting software can only be run on IE6 or on IE9+. 
The cost efficient solution for them is to go on running their legal 
copies of XP on some hundreds of computers with IE6 and ban any 
acive-x objects and script (java, javascript, flash etc) on the 
company server. So, it is the operating system that is behind the 
longevity of IE in the corporate field and , unfortunately, it will 
remain the same for a long time.

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2012-12-01 Thread kstubs
..and related to all of this is a site like this:
http://scripteka.com

Where a ton of the script that use to be available, well the 
underlying/host site for the code have dropped off the WWW universe.
Very sad :(  A lot of broken links.

Karl..

On Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:54:42 AM UTC-7, isurge wrote:

 We let our IE 6 clients go. 

 On 12/1/12 1:48 AM, petrob wrote: 
  I understood why a lot of companies still insist on using IE6 when at 
  a large hypermarket chain the accounting staff pointed out that their 
  very expensive accounting software can only be run on IE6 or on IE9+. 
  The cost efficient solution for them is to go on running their legal 
  copies of XP on some hundreds of computers with IE6 and ban any 
  acive-x objects and script (java, javascript, flash etc) on the 
  company server. So, it is the operating system that is behind the 
  longevity of IE in the corporate field and , unfortunately, it will 
  remain the same for a long time. 
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RE: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

2011-10-23 Thread wwwboy
Hi T.J.

With the speed of which modern browsers release updates and move toward HTML5 - 
I think there will be no significant differences between them in a year.
IE8 will not be alive in a year in the light of Windows8 with IE10 and 
canceling support XP - so there will be IE9 and IE10 which a close to other 
browsers.
An optional ability to build library without of support of old browsers will be 
the big advance for most developers - small size, fast execution!
At least there might be two versions of the library - for supporting old 
browsers - 1.7 and for modern - 2.0 :)

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Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Future of Prototyp.js

On Oct 23, 6:01 am, buda www...@pochta.ru wrote:
 IE6 is already innonexistence.

Whether IE6 remains relevant depends a great deal on where you look and whom 
you're targeting. If you look at the figures on http://ie6countdown.com, you 
see that if you're targeting east asia, you'd be an idiot not to support IE6. 
Similarly, that 2.2% in the UK is a misleading figure, because although small 
in itself, it consists of very large government departments -- so if your 
site/application is targeted at those departments, you're still stuck with IE6 
support. You get the idea. :-)

 The rapid development of browser features they caught up and there are 
 fewer and fewer differences between them. A year later, they 
 practically do not remain.

Where are you getting that information? There still remain significant and 
problematic differences between browsers from different vendors.
Heck, IE8 (nearly 30% of the desktop market[1]) and below don't even support 
`addEventListener`, making Prototype's handling of that difference very 
important indeed. Yes, in a year I'd expect IE9 to be much higher on that list 
than it is currently because even Microsoft users are getting the idea of 
updating more often, but I suspect IE8 will still be above it.

Separately, I think the premise that most of Prototype is about working around 
outdated browser differences is (respectfully) incorrect. Most of Prototype is 
around adding useful utility functionality. Some of it is about smoothing out 
differences (such as how opacity is specified in various browsers), but mostly 
it's about simplifying and expanding on what's common across browsers (for 
instance, the DOM navigation stuff).

My two cents. :-)

[1] 
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2qpcustomd=0
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