Re: control surfaces
Hi Mike, By the way, my name is spelled with a u at the end, not a w. Since my HD cards are in a Magma expansion chassis, I can use them both on a desktop like an old G4 or Mac Pro as well as a MacBook Pro. On the laptop, I have both HD and LE software so I can run either my HD system or my Digi 003. Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Thank you verry much Slaw. Regarding the other part of my ? I was meaning with pro tools. YOu ancered the ? that I was wanting to find out. ? you use your pro tools system on a macbook pro if I am right? Thanks a lot. On 2010-06-14, at 7:18 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Mike, The interface I use is a Digidesign 192 I/O with an expansion card. It's an HD interface for a TDM system. I'm not sure what you meant by the second part of your question when you said not for Pro Tools. I use nothing other than Pro Tools for multitrack recording. Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Thank you verry much slaw. If you don't mind me asking. In your studio what kind of interface are you using and what not for pro tools? On 2010-06-13, at 10:47 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Le systems have a maximum input of 18 channels but that won't work on USB. fireWire is the only means to get that number of inputs. Slau
Re: setting time selections
Weird, it didn't seem to work here with the default setting of the num pad. I'll check that the imbedded num pad layout on this MBP isn't funkier than I first thought... suspecting user error here. On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, No, actually, this works with the numeric keypad in any mode—Classic, Transport or Shuttle. Best, Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Yup yup, that's exactly the workflow I remember from the olden days. Presumably, this functionality hinges upon the num pad being in classic mode though right? On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, Here's what you need to do: Use the asterisk key if you just want to move the playback cursor to a particular position. If you'd like to access the start, End and Length fields, use the slash key (on the numpad). The first press of the slash key will access the Start field. Pressing the slash key a second time moves the focus to the End field. A third press will focus on the Length field. Pressing the decimal key moves between columns of the field like bars/beats or minutes:seconds. So, for example, if you wish to create a selection from bar 3, beat 1 to bar 11, beat 3, you would press the slash key once, type 3 then press the slash key again and type 11, decimal, then 3. Alternatively, if you need to simply select 8 bars from where you are, press slash three times and type 8. Hopefully, that makes sense. Cheers, Slau On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Folks, allow me to be the first to ask a newbie question if you will. I can set start and end time selections in the counter display cluster of the edit window. Used to be able to enter these via the numpad though using / and * keys if memory serves. Is this method still possible, because I'm not seeing any joy with it here so far. It'd be quicker not to have to leave whatever I'm doing and navigate to a certain place in the edit window. Cheers in advance Scott
Re: control surfaces
Hey bryan, I'm using a MacBook Pro 2008 model which does have the Express 34 slot. Currently, the only MacBook Pro model that has the expansion slot is the 17-inch MBP. The Magma chassis works fine with that model. Digidesign never supported this setup but it works flawlessly. I've recorded orchestral sessions even on an old PowerBook with the Magma chassis. It's a fantastic portable system. Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Slau, for your laptop, you're using one of the older MacBooks with an Expresscard slot, right? I thought that the Magma enclosures couldn't work with any of the interfaces currently on MacBooks. Don't think they support Firewire or USB host connections. So, the Magma enclosures should only be a possibility with older models. If they can work with newer machines, I'd like to know. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: control surfaces Hi Mike, By the way, my name is spelled with a u at the end, not a w. Since my HD cards are in a Magma expansion chassis, I can use them both on a desktop like an old G4 or Mac Pro as well as a MacBook Pro. On the laptop, I have both HD and LE software so I can run either my HD system or my Digi 003. Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Thank you verry much Slaw. Regarding the other part of my ? I was meaning with pro tools. YOu ancered the ? that I was wanting to find out. ? you use your pro tools system on a macbook pro if I am right? Thanks a lot. On 2010-06-14, at 7:18 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Mike, The interface I use is a Digidesign 192 I/O with an expansion card. It's an HD interface for a TDM system. I'm not sure what you meant by the second part of your question when you said not for Pro Tools. I use nothing other than Pro Tools for multitrack recording. Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Thank you verry much slaw. If you don't mind me asking. In your studio what kind of interface are you using and what not for pro tools? On 2010-06-13, at 10:47 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Le systems have a maximum input of 18 channels but that won't work on USB. fireWire is the only means to get that number of inputs. Slau
Re: setting time selections
Is it an Apple keyboard? Is num lock off? You don't have numpad commander on, right? Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Weird, it didn't seem to work here with the default setting of the num pad. I'll check that the imbedded num pad layout on this MBP isn't funkier than I first thought... suspecting user error here. On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, No, actually, this works with the numeric keypad in any mode—Classic, Transport or Shuttle. Best, Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Yup yup, that's exactly the workflow I remember from the olden days. Presumably, this functionality hinges upon the num pad being in classic mode though right? On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, Here's what you need to do: Use the asterisk key if you just want to move the playback cursor to a particular position. If you'd like to access the start, End and Length fields, use the slash key (on the numpad). The first press of the slash key will access the Start field. Pressing the slash key a second time moves the focus to the End field. A third press will focus on the Length field. Pressing the decimal key moves between columns of the field like bars/beats or minutes:seconds. So, for example, if you wish to create a selection from bar 3, beat 1 to bar 11, beat 3, you would press the slash key once, type 3 then press the slash key again and type 11, decimal, then 3. Alternatively, if you need to simply select 8 bars from where you are, press slash three times and type 8. Hopefully, that makes sense. Cheers, Slau On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Folks, allow me to be the first to ask a newbie question if you will. I can set start and end time selections in the counter display cluster of the edit window. Used to be able to enter these via the numpad though using / and * keys if memory serves. Is this method still possible, because I'm not seeing any joy with it here so far. It'd be quicker not to have to leave whatever I'm doing and navigate to a certain place in the edit window. Cheers in advance Scott
Re: setting time selections
It's the keyboard on the MBP, tried with numlock on and off using f/N instead, and numpad commander isn't on. Still getting nothing out of it though in any of the num pad modes... so weird! External keyboard next when I can get my hands on one, unless you have any other suggestions to try first. On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Is it an Apple keyboard? Is num lock off? You don't have numpad commander on, right? Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Weird, it didn't seem to work here with the default setting of the num pad. I'll check that the imbedded num pad layout on this MBP isn't funkier than I first thought... suspecting user error here. On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, No, actually, this works with the numeric keypad in any mode—Classic, Transport or Shuttle. Best, Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Yup yup, that's exactly the workflow I remember from the olden days. Presumably, this functionality hinges upon the num pad being in classic mode though right? On 6/14/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Scott, Here's what you need to do: Use the asterisk key if you just want to move the playback cursor to a particular position. If you'd like to access the start, End and Length fields, use the slash key (on the numpad). The first press of the slash key will access the Start field. Pressing the slash key a second time moves the focus to the End field. A third press will focus on the Length field. Pressing the decimal key moves between columns of the field like bars/beats or minutes:seconds. So, for example, if you wish to create a selection from bar 3, beat 1 to bar 11, beat 3, you would press the slash key once, type 3 then press the slash key again and type 11, decimal, then 3. Alternatively, if you need to simply select 8 bars from where you are, press slash three times and type 8. Hopefully, that makes sense. Cheers, Slau On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Folks, allow me to be the first to ask a newbie question if you will. I can set start and end time selections in the counter display cluster of the edit window. Used to be able to enter these via the numpad though using / and * keys if memory serves. Is this method still possible, because I'm not seeing any joy with it here so far. It'd be quicker not to have to leave whatever I'm doing and navigate to a certain place in the edit window. Cheers in advance Scott
RE: control surfaces
It is important to be aware, if you choose LE, and consequently to work with Avid/Digi interfaces, then you won't have the best results if you also use other DAWs besides Pro Tools. In particular, Sonar doesn't work well with Avid/Digi interfaces. If you're going exclusively Pro Tools, then it won't matter. If you want to run both on a single machine, MPowered is better. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:37 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: control surfaces Hi Michael, For the LE side of things, I use the Digi 003, in this case, the desktop version which includes the control surface. It's Avid's best offering in the LE domain. From there, it's up to the HD systems. Slau
Re: control surfaces
Thank you verry much bryan. I am not going to be getting pro tools right away just trying to find out the best options for what I would be using it with. Thank you verry much. On 2010-06-14, at 3:08 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: It is important to be aware, if you choose LE, and consequently to work with Avid/Digi interfaces, then you won't have the best results if you also use other DAWs besides Pro Tools. In particular, Sonar doesn't work well with Avid/Digi interfaces. If you're going exclusively Pro Tools, then it won't matter. If you want to run both on a single machine, MPowered is better. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:37 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: control surfaces Hi Michael, For the LE side of things, I use the Digi 003, in this case, the desktop version which includes the control surface. It's Avid's best offering in the LE domain. From there, it's up to the HD systems. Slau
Large tracking projects, was RE: While we're doing intros...
Besides Pro Tools, your only other professional accessible solution is Sonar. You'll have to setup BootCamp on your Mac, and boot in to Windows to run it. You'll need: Sonar Jaws 8 or newer A Jaws scripts package for Sonar like CakeTalking or JSonar. JSonar is free, but not quite as stable in some areas of Sonar. If all that you're doing is tracking, though, it will be fine. CakeTalking comes with a 400+ page book of how-tos for a blind user of Sonar. If you want to get a job accomplished quickly, and have access to procedures for how to accomplish the tasks as a blind guy, then CakeTalking is worth it. Sonar doesn't impose artificial limitations on how many inputs you can record at once. You just need the interface and computer to pull it off. A newer MBP can record to 24 tracks at once via Sonar easily. However, if you're working exclusively from the internal drive, you'll need to live with some latency in order to have everything operate smoothly. A higher-end iMac or Mac Pro can handle it no problem at all. I don't know of any 24 input Firewire interfaces that can be stacked off-hand. Most that I've seen stop at 16 inputs. If you're using a Mac Pro, though, you can high-end Lynx or RME cards, which will work fine with Sonar under BootCamp. The trick, of course, is getting something that can also be used with Pro Tools when you need to operate on that side. I haven't tried this, but Reaper, at least on Windows, might be able to help with the tracking on the cheap. There is access to it via Jaws. It's mixing capabilities aren't on the level of Sonar or Pro Tools, but it might be able to track that many inputs for you, if raw tracking is all that you need. Let us know how it works out. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: While we're doing intros... Hello again I just reread the thread on mac visionaries and found your response about Logic. So no need to reply. It does lead me to another question though. If I want to use any old firewire a/d d/a for at least 24 tracks of recording it will need some software to do it other than PT. What would be recommended? I'm trying to avoid spending $11,000 plus to get a 24 track recording solution. If I'm spending that much maybe I will just buy a radar. The $11k would be 2 Lynx Auroras and PT HD. Thanks --FC On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi Brian On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: There isn't another list right now, because there are only a few people using Logic, either with really hard-to-get-going approaches, or with tools that they can't share/talk about. For all practical purposes, it isn't an accessible DAW yet. The scripts that were linked to on the mac visionaries list a month or so ago are what I was going to try. I grabbed a copy of them but I don't have logic now so I haven't tried them yet. Any idea if they work? I'll see if I can find the link again. I went back and forth with Apple accessibility about Logic. All they could tell me is they have no information at this time. I took that to mean that it will be coming in some version at some point. You might have better luck with either the VIMac-Audio list (general Mac audio talk), or with MIDIMag (general music production talk for blind guys on all platforms). www.midimag.org Good tips. Thanks. Regards --FC
Re: Large tracking projects, was RE: While we're doing intros...
Hey Brian On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Besides Pro Tools, your only other professional accessible solution is Sonar. You'll have to setup BootCamp on your Mac, and boot in to Windows to run it. Thanks for your response. I am not willing to run windows. I guess I will try some of the other solutions and see how I get along with them. You'll need: Snip... Sonar doesn't impose artificial limitations on how many inputs you can record at once. You just need the interface and computer to pull it off. A newer MBP can record to 24 tracks at once via Sonar easily. However, if you're working exclusively from the internal drive, you'll need to live with some latency in order to have everything operate smoothly. A higher-end iMac or Mac Pro can handle it no problem at all. I don't know of any 24 input Firewire interfaces that can be stacked off-hand. Most that I've seen stop at 16 inputs. If you're using a Mac Pro, though, you can high-end Lynx or RME cards, which will work fine with Sonar under BootCamp. The trick, of course, is getting something that can also be used with Pro Tools when you need to operate on that side. Like I said in past posts I was really hoping to be able to use the Echo Audiofire 12. I was going to get a second one and slave them together with coreaudio. I haven't tried this, but Reaper, at least on Windows, might be able to help with the tracking on the cheap. There is access to it via Jaws. It's mixing capabilities aren't on the level of Sonar or Pro Tools, but it might be able to track that many inputs for you, if raw tracking is all that you need. Let us know how it works out. I just got off the phone with a salesman at sweetwater. It's even more then I thought it would be. $8000 for just an hd1 core card and $3,000 for each aurora. The hd2's are $10,000. $16,000 grand for a fancy tape machine. I might as well buy a radar. I'm gonna give IZ a call. I guess I'll still buy the low-end MPowered version when it happens. Thanks --FC Bryan
Re: setting time selections
wow! this is going to make editing my stuff for radio much easier! Thanks for the info. GF On Jun 14, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yep, markers (or memory locations) are created with the Enter key on the num pad. You can set them to either auto name or you can type a name for each new marker in the dialog. To access a marker, you press decimal, the number of the marker and then decimal again. To select between marker locations, hold down the shift key when moving to the second marker. For example, let's say you have marker 1 and marker 2 set. To select between them, first press decimal, 1, decimal to get to the first marker location. Then, while holding down the shift key, press decimal, 2, decimal. This will create the selection. There's much more involved if you'd like to get fancier with Pre/Post roll times, track show/hide, etc. but that's the basic concept. Best, Slau On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:30 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I like that method. Kevin was telling me about all that. I love it! Can't wait to use it though. lol. how about markers, can you drop markers then select between them some how? I will go read up on this stuff. mmm, input! GF On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Scott, Here's what you need to do: Use the asterisk key if you just want to move the playback cursor to a particular position. If you'd like to access the start, End and Length fields, use the slash key (on the numpad). The first press of the slash key will access the Start field. Pressing the slash key a second time moves the focus to the End field. A third press will focus on the Length field. Pressing the decimal key moves between columns of the field like bars/beats or minutes:seconds. So, for example, if you wish to create a selection from bar 3, beat 1 to bar 11, beat 3, you would press the slash key once, type 3 then press the slash key again and type 11, decimal, then 3. Alternatively, if you need to simply select 8 bars from where you are, press slash three times and type 8. Hopefully, that makes sense. Cheers, Slau On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Folks, allow me to be the first to ask a newbie question if you will. I can set start and end time selections in the counter display cluster of the edit window. Used to be able to enter these via the numpad though using / and * keys if memory serves. Is this method still possible, because I'm not seeing any joy with it here so far. It'd be quicker not to have to leave whatever I'm doing and navigate to a certain place in the edit window. Cheers in advance Scott
