Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...

2011-05-26 Thread k.zeelen


Hello Everyone,
yesterday I was too hasty and its a completly other subject but I want to 
react on the hyperbraille subject.

I went to the link Nickus posted and there was one thing which intrigued me.
that was the pixelmode of the display.
From what i could gather was that the display was able to display immages 
and with the technique of the ipad and iphone you can draw immages the flash 
moovie was too short to figure out all the details but I think it'll be an 
enormous improvement when this display comes into

production.
As far as i know now its a project which has to be evaluated.
Thanks for the information Nickus.
With regards
Peter.
- Original Message - 
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



got to love Pepper one of my favorite albums of all time.

Jake
- Original Message - 
From: k.zee...@home.nl

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...




Hello everyone,
there are more factors than the producing alone for instance if you are
w0orking with musicians and other things I worked in prostudios which had 
a
good crew and a good building you can buy good stuff for a reasonable 
price
but you cant buy good pros who know their trade they have to work for 
it.

Or you yourself must be good.
I read the whole item and i stand on the sideline but do not make 
yourself

dependable on technique because that's only half of it.
You have to be creative.
Sergeant pepper was made on four tracks.
cheers and work hard every one.
Peter.
- Original Message - 
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Cc: teall...@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



Wow guys just finished reading the thread and I am a bit depressed. The
bright spot as I see it is there will always be Audiophiles who will
insist on the quality recordings that only masters in the field can tern
out.

Jake
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Frank, no problem. This is on topic.

Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income from
either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a 
project's

Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the money
came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for an
artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials, 
etc.

The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one of
the technicians.

1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures. 
The

huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't
buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of 
money

to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording
artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. This 
is

the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most  film and
television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, in
many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than 
to

spend lots of expensive time to get the great take.

2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no
longer is available to support most of the large recording facilities of
just a few years ago. As the facilities close, that means less steady 
work

for lots of people formerly employed by the technical side of the
recording industry, including engineers.

3. Anyone with $1,000 can record a passable version of a song at home, 
and

anyone with $10,000 and a few years of practice and study can do a
competent job of recording and mixing an album at home. There are 
wonnabee

producers and mixers under every rock, and there are so many that they
work for little to nothing. They might not have golden ears and decades 
of
experience, but even those that do have found it harder to insist on 
past

pay when there is so much competition and less money available to pay
them. Why rent studio time to cut a demo when your buddy can run
GarageBand? Why pay someone to write and arrange music for a commercial,
and book musicians and a studio to record it when someone can be
contracted through a web site to throw together some loops with a few
overdubs for a couple of hundred bucks? Everyone is trying to make their
project happen for less money.

So, in summary, there is less money available to support a larger number
of people that are attempting to perform this work. It's important not 
to

live under illusions when trying to turn this sort of work in to income.
The day of the mega studio and the 

9.0.3 is out

2011-05-26 Thread Slau Halatyn
Version 9.0.3 is out, certainly for HD and, most likely, the regular version as 
well. I haven't looked at it yet and won't have a chance to update until this 
afternoon but I doubt we'll see any changes regarding accessibility in this 
update. that said, I think it's time to follow up and see what's doin' at avid.

Slau



sameday music news

2011-05-26 Thread k.zeelen
Hello Evreryone,
esspecially the American ones.
For three or more years i subscribed to the same day music newsletter.
I was wondering if they ship to other countries or is it just for the us? 
With regards,
Peter.


Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...

2011-05-26 Thread Bryan Smart
Hopefully it won't cost $12,000 like the VideoTim, but, given how expensive it 
is to manufacturer cells, I doubt that this will be anything approaching 
affordable, even for those of us with good jobs/income.

Thanks for the info, but this isn't really related to Pro TOols, or even 
recording, so we should take this thread off list.

Bryan

On May 26, 2011, at 7:17 AM, k.zee...@home.nl k.zee...@home.nl wrote:


 Hello Everyone,
 yesterday I was too hasty and its a completely other subject but I want to
 react on the hyperbraille subject.
 I went to the link Nickus posted and there was one thing which intrigued me.
 that was the pixelmode of the display.
 From what i could gather was that the display was able to display immages
 and with the technique of the ipad and iphone you can draw immages the flash
 moovie was too short to figure out all the details but I think it'll be an
 enormous improvement when this display comes into
 production.
 As far as i know now its a project which has to be evaluated.
 Thanks for the information Nickus.
 With regards
 Peter.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:11 PM
 Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


 got to love Pepper one of my favorite albums of all time.

 Jake
 - Original Message -
 From: k.zee...@home.nl
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



 Hello everyone,
 there are more factors than the producing alone for instance if you are
 w0orking with musicians and other things I worked in prostudios which had
 a
 good crew and a good building you can buy good stuff for a reasonable
 price
 but you cant buy good pros who know their trade they have to work for
 it.
 Or you yourself must be good.
 I read the whole item and i stand on the sideline but do not make
 yourself
 dependable on technique because that's only half of it.
 You have to be creative.
 Sergeant pepper was made on four tracks.
 cheers and work hard every one.
 Peter.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Cc: teall...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


 Wow guys just finished reading the thread and I am a bit depressed. The
 bright spot as I see it is there will always be Audiophiles who will
 insist on the quality recordings that only masters in the field can tern
 out.

 Jake
 - Original Message -
 From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:15 AM
 Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


 Frank, no problem. This is on topic.

 Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income from
 either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a
 project's
 Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the money
 came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for an
 artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials,
 etc.
 The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one of
 the technicians.

 1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures.
 The
 huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't
 buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of
 money
 to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording
 artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. This
 is
 the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most  film and
 television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, in
 many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than
 to
 spend lots of expensive time to get the great take.

 2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no
 longer is available to support most of the large recording facilities of
 just a few years ago. As the facilities close, that means less steady
 work
 for lots of people formerly employed by the technical side of the
 recording industry, including engineers.

 3. Anyone with $1,000 can record a passable version of a song at home,
 and
 anyone with $10,000 and a few years of practice and study can do a
 competent job of recording and mixing an album at home. There are
 wonnabee
 producers and mixers under every rock, and there are so many that they
 work for little to nothing. They might not have golden ears and decades
 of
 experience, but even those that do have found it harder to insist on
 past
 pay when there is so much competition and less money available to pay
 them. Why rent studio time to cut a demo when your buddy can run
 GarageBand? Why pay someone to write and arrange music for a commercial,
 and book musicians and a studio 

Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...

2011-05-26 Thread k.zeelen


Sorry I spoke, bryan you are perfectly right but even so its info anyway You 
are the only one but lets call it closed.

my appologies.
Peter.
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Hopefully it won't cost $12,000 like the VideoTim, but, given how expensive 
it is to manufacturer cells, I doubt that this will be anything approaching 
affordable, even for those of us with good jobs/income.


Thanks for the info, but this isn't really related to Pro TOols, or even 
recording, so we should take this thread off list.


Bryan

On May 26, 2011, at 7:17 AM, k.zee...@home.nl k.zee...@home.nl wrote:



Hello Everyone,
yesterday I was too hasty and its a completely other subject but I want to
react on the hyperbraille subject.
I went to the link Nickus posted and there was one thing which intrigued 
me.

that was the pixelmode of the display.
From what i could gather was that the display was able to display immages
and with the technique of the ipad and iphone you can draw immages the 
flash

moovie was too short to figure out all the details but I think it'll be an
enormous improvement when this display comes into
production.
As far as i know now its a project which has to be evaluated.
Thanks for the information Nickus.
With regards
Peter.
- Original Message -
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



got to love Pepper one of my favorite albums of all time.

Jake
- Original Message -
From: k.zee...@home.nl
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...




Hello everyone,
there are more factors than the producing alone for instance if you are
w0orking with musicians and other things I worked in prostudios which 
had

a
good crew and a good building you can buy good stuff for a reasonable
price
but you cant buy good pros who know their trade they have to work for
it.
Or you yourself must be good.
I read the whole item and i stand on the sideline but do not make
yourself
dependable on technique because that's only half of it.
You have to be creative.
Sergeant pepper was made on four tracks.
cheers and work hard every one.
Peter.
- Original Message -
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Cc: teall...@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



Wow guys just finished reading the thread and I am a bit depressed. The
bright spot as I see it is there will always be Audiophiles who will
insist on the quality recordings that only masters in the field can 
tern

out.

Jake
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Frank, no problem. This is on topic.

Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income from
either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a
project's
Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the money
came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for 
an

artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials,
etc.
The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one of
the technicians.

1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures.
The
huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't
buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of
money
to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording
artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. This
is
the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most  film and
television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, 
in

many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than
to
spend lots of expensive time to get the great take.

2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no
longer is available to support most of the large recording facilities 
of

just a few years ago. As the facilities close, that means less steady
work
for lots of people formerly employed by the technical side of the
recording industry, including engineers.

3. Anyone with $1,000 can record a passable version of a song at home,
and
anyone with $10,000 and a few years of practice and study can do a
competent job of recording and mixing an album at home. There are
wonnabee
producers and mixers under every rock, and there are so many that they
work for little to nothing. They might not have golden ears and decades
of
experience, but even those that 

Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...

2011-05-26 Thread k.zeelen


Hi Folks just one remark,
it was an accessability item and we all have to deal with that aren't we
and the devolopments go realy fast.
My pc did not react to this adress and I could not make it a new toppic due 
to a couple of technicalities but I thought it was info which might be 
useful esspecialy because the flash on youtube was in german.

Anyway here it is night and I go to bed.
solong
Peter.
- Original Message - 
From: k.zee...@home.nl

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...




Sorry I spoke, bryan you are perfectly right but even so its info anyway 
You are the only one but lets call it closed.

my appologies.
Peter.
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Hopefully it won't cost $12,000 like the VideoTim, but, given how 
expensive it is to manufacturer cells, I doubt that this will be anything 
approaching affordable, even for those of us with good jobs/income.


Thanks for the info, but this isn't really related to Pro TOols, or even 
recording, so we should take this thread off list.


Bryan

On May 26, 2011, at 7:17 AM, k.zee...@home.nl k.zee...@home.nl wrote:



Hello Everyone,
yesterday I was too hasty and its a completely other subject but I want 
to

react on the hyperbraille subject.
I went to the link Nickus posted and there was one thing which intrigued 
me.

that was the pixelmode of the display.
From what i could gather was that the display was able to display immages
and with the technique of the ipad and iphone you can draw immages the 
flash
moovie was too short to figure out all the details but I think it'll be 
an

enormous improvement when this display comes into
production.
As far as i know now its a project which has to be evaluated.
Thanks for the information Nickus.
With regards
Peter.
- Original Message -
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...



got to love Pepper one of my favorite albums of all time.

Jake
- Original Message -
From: k.zee...@home.nl
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...




Hello everyone,
there are more factors than the producing alone for instance if you are
w0orking with musicians and other things I worked in prostudios which 
had

a
good crew and a good building you can buy good stuff for a reasonable
price
but you cant buy good pros who know their trade they have to work for
it.
Or you yourself must be good.
I read the whole item and i stand on the sideline but do not make
yourself
dependable on technique because that's only half of it.
You have to be creative.
Sergeant pepper was made on four tracks.
cheers and work hard every one.
Peter.
- Original Message -
From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Cc: teall...@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Wow guys just finished reading the thread and I am a bit depressed. 
The

bright spot as I see it is there will always be Audiophiles who will
insist on the quality recordings that only masters in the field can 
tern

out.

Jake
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...


Frank, no problem. This is on topic.

Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income 
from

either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a
project's
Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the 
money
came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for 
an

artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials,
etc.
The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one 
of

the technicians.

1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures.
The
huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't
buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of
money
to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording
artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. 
This

is
the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most  film 
and
television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, 
in

many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than
to
spend lots of expensive time to get the great take.

2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no
longer is available to support most of the