Re: Pro Tools Tutorial Quicktake: Basic Comping.
Dear Kevin, thanks for this. JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Pro Tools Tutorial Quicktake: Basic Comping. Hey folks. Here's a small clip where I show you how to comp a quick vocal phrase. More coming soon. http://www.kevinreeves.net/Comping.mp3=
Re: Frustration.
Dear Kevin, apart from your very helpful tutorials, I have another question for ProTools starters as I'm probably going to be one of them soon. Are there specific voice-over commands for ProTools, as there are special keystrokes that come with Cake-Talking for sonar on PC, and if so, are they all listed somewhere? Or do you just use standard voice-over commands? JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Abdul D Kamara To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Frustration. Thanks Kevin, I will give it a go. On 12 Jun 2011, at 23:18, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey man. Have you listened to my first demonstration of Pro Tools? Here, I give a detailed example of how to do what you're wanting. go to to http://kevinreeves.net/pt1 and download it. The end of it gives a basic rundown of how to do this. I am working on more that will talk about editing indepth.
RE: audio interface
Well, don't go for a Focusrite Saffire - we've got great accessibility on the Windows panel, but there's nothing except the menu bar that's workable on the Mac. I cheat and create my configurations under windows, save them as preset files then use Command+O to load them on the Mac, but this is a pain, even if you're lucky enough to have a couple of machines. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monkey Pusher Sent: 12 June 2011 18:10 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: audio interface Hey Everyone, Was just curious what audio interface are you guys using on the mac that has an accessible control pannel? just curious since my MBox Pro's control pannel is completely inaccessible and there are a few changes i would have to make in there.So i am considering replaceing it if there is something thats also accessible but meets my needs I/O wise. Thanks.
Re: audio interface
Won't work. Windows control panel uses a custom non-readable format, and the Mac control panel uses a plist file. Not on the computer with the ProjectMix now, but the file is in ~/Library/Preferences. Is something like com.m-audio.projectmix blah blah. You can edit the values with the Properties Editor in xCode. A plist file is XML, so you can edit it with any text editor, but you'll need to be careful that way. Either way, some of the settings have names that don't make sense, so you won't know what you're adjusting, and some of the settings with clear names use values that aren't clear. For example, if you see clock source, and the value is C23A41B8, who knows if that is internal, external, external with digital mute, etc. You could always have someone sighted change settings in the control panel and look at the values in the plist file. Maybe M-Audio would send you the format spec, but I doubt it. The other trick is to get the driver to reload settings from the file. When you change a setting in a preference pane, two things happen. The preference pane changes the value in the preferences file that matches the user interface control that you just adjusted, and the preference pane sends a message to the app/service/driver instructing it to reload its settings from the preferences file. If you edit the file by hand, not sure what you'll have to do to get the projectMix to reload the settings. Maybe opening/closing the preferences pane would be enough. Maybe you'll have to power cycle it. Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey. Anyone know if that would work on the M Audio Panel? That would work awesome if I could set the prefs in windows and force the mac to recognize it as the default. What a great idea. Kevin On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Tim Burgess wrote: Well, don't go for a Focusrite Saffire - we've got great accessibility on the Windows panel, but there's nothing except the menu bar that's workable on the Mac. I cheat and create my configurations under windows, save them as preset files then use Command+O to load them on the Mac, but this is a pain, even if you're lucky enough to have a couple of machines. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monkey Pusher Sent: 12 June 2011 18:10 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: audio interface Hey Everyone, Was just curious what audio interface are you guys using on the mac that has an accessible control pannel? just curious since my MBox Pro's control pannel is completely inaccessible and there are a few changes i would have to make in there.So i am considering replaceing it if there is something thats also accessible but meets my needs I/O wise. Thanks.
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
Due to the way that the plug in window is designed, no matter what plug you throw at it, VO won't be able to read anything at all, including pop-up menus, child windows (open file dialogs), and so on. You get the preset librarian and the automatable controls. That's it. That's fine for plugs like effects, but is not even a start for plugs like Structure. Until the whole window is redesigned, the only way you'll have a chance at an accessible UI for a plug is if the plug's interface is displayed in another program. There is Rewire on the Mac, but I don't remember exactly what sort of Rewire support is available in Pro Tools. That approach is probably the best lead on an accessible sampler. You're right about Xpand. The electronic drums and some other areas are really lacking, but the editing support is very good. You probably noticed how many parameters are in the window. If you aren't familiar with the VoiceOver item chooser (VO-i), you should spend some time with it. If you know part of the parameter's name, the item chooser can help jump you right to it without having to step through them all. If you find that you're editing, and bouncing back and forth between a few of the same parameters over and over, then set VO hot spots on the parameters, and you can jump directly to one of the parameters with a single hot key. Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: I was hoping that the garitan aria player would be accessible but it doesn't look good. If it were we could import sfz stuff into it. We really really are going to need a sampler of some sort. I like xpand though, at least we have access to the envelopes and it's simple and straightforward. Gord -Original Message- From: Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:36 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Software instruments and precise editing No, I said that I'd had luck. Most of the Avid instruments are accessible. They show their presets in the plug in window's preset librarian, and you can edit them through the visible automation parameters. There are some exceptions. Structure and Structure LE are 100% out. You must use their custom browsers to load presets, those browsers are completely invisible to VoiceOver, and they don't support keyboard navigation. This is really too bad. Xpand is sort of a general sound module, but the quality of the instruments in Structure are much better. Structure also has nice expansions from East-West that we can't use. From the instrument Expansion, the Transfuser instrument that is used to create/perform grooves in real-time by mixing and modifying loops is somewhat accessible, but crashes VO a lot. Like I said, though, every 3rd-party instrument that I've tried is inaccessible. Without Structure, the built-in instruments are great for picking up a part here and there if you're using mostly real instruments, but just need the occasional synth to cover a specific sound. If you want to completely sequence, I don't think that the instruments that we can use cover what is needed. I'd think better of the set if we could count Structure in our pallet. As is, though, most of the instruments in Xpand are like a synth rack from the mid 90's. Velvet and DB33 are absolutely nothing like modelers such as Lounge Lizard and B4. The absolute deal breaker for me, and anyone that sequences groove-based music from Dance Pop, to Hip Hop, to Dub Step, and so on, is that we don't have access to any sort of sampler at all. The electronic drums available in the presets are very out of date, and, without a sampler, I can't use my own sampled kits. These styles also require lots of sampled bits and pieces: gang shouts, atmospheric effects, stabs, transitions, etc, and ther isn't any way to trigger them. You could manually import each piece, place it on a track, and push it around, but that is the million years way to create a song. In terms of quality, I'd say that the Avid instruments are better than most of what comes with Sonar, but are way behind GarageBand and Logic. It's too bad. Editing in Pro Tools is so fast, that it could be really great for sequencing. Until we get access to a sampler plug in and better instruments, though, I still have to do those sorts of projects in Sonar. If you're working on simple stuff, like simple drums, bass, and keyboard arrangements, though, then it probably be enough. Bryan On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Elder wrote: Hi Brian, You say others have had luck with the accessibility of Avid virtual instruments. Can you further describe the relative accessibility of the Avid instruments? I was considering an investment in the PT virtual instrument collection. As of now I still do most synth programming in Sonar because of the quality of the access to the virtual instruments and then export to Pro Tools for mixing and
