Fwd: put the region in the track.
Hello All, I will like to retract my rather stupid question; it turns out that drag and drop with VO is not as bad as I thought. Best, A Begin forwarded message: From: Abdul D Kamara abduldkam...@gmail.com Date: 13 September 2011 23:57:00 CEST To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: put the region in the track. Hi all, I'm trying to get audio from the regions list, on to a track. It appears that simply copying and pasting is not an option, and that instead, I would need to drag and drop-- at least, I'm told that this is how the sighted folks do it. Is this correct? If so, what is the work around? Can a surface control with programmable keys be one of them? Abdul
Re: put the region in the track.
Hey Slau, As I am a PT novis, please forgive my imprecise descriptions. I am importing a series of audio clips into the regions list, from which I drag and drop into an audio track. I figured it would be far easier this way, rather than constantly importing audio into new tracks-- and approach that is completely unmanageable for me. But I now know how to do the drag and drop; problem solved. Thanks Abdul On 14 Sep 2011, at 01:17, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Abdul, Yes, one would drag the file from the regions list. With VoiceOver, I'm not sure how possible it is at this time. Let me say that, normally, you'd import an audio file directly to a new track. This makes it easy to cut and paste into other tracks. If the region exists in the session already, that would usually mean it was recorded into the session and thus should be able to be found elsewhere in one of the tracks. Can you explain how it is that you have a region in the regions list and not in any track? It might help in my answer. Cheers, Slau On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get audio from the regions list, on to a track. It appears that simply copying and pasting is not an option, and that instead, I would need to drag and drop-- at least, I'm told that this is how the sighted folks do it. Is this correct? If so, what is the work around? Can a surface control with programmable keys be one of them? Abdul
Re: put the region in the track.
Well, Abdul, I have to say, I'm up on the technique for dragging dropping regions in OS 9 with Pro Tools 5.3 but I haven't even tried it with Pro Tools 9. Can you recount your steps? I mean, I'm not sure where exactly one would need to drop with VoiceOver as it doesn't necessarily see the waveform area, per se. Let us know. I bet it'll be news to most of us. :) Cheers, Slau On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hey Slau, As I am a PT novis, please forgive my imprecise descriptions. I am importing a series of audio clips into the regions list, from which I drag and drop into an audio track. I figured it would be far easier this way, rather than constantly importing audio into new tracks-- and approach that is completely unmanageable for me. But I now know how to do the drag and drop; problem solved. Thanks Abdul On 14 Sep 2011, at 01:17, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Abdul, Yes, one would drag the file from the regions list. With VoiceOver, I'm not sure how possible it is at this time. Let me say that, normally, you'd import an audio file directly to a new track. This makes it easy to cut and paste into other tracks. If the region exists in the session already, that would usually mean it was recorded into the session and thus should be able to be found elsewhere in one of the tracks. Can you explain how it is that you have a region in the regions list and not in any track? It might help in my answer. Cheers, Slau On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get audio from the regions list, on to a track. It appears that simply copying and pasting is not an option, and that instead, I would need to drag and drop-- at least, I'm told that this is how the sighted folks do it. Is this correct? If so, what is the work around? Can a surface control with programmable keys be one of them? Abdul
Re: put the region in the track.
Yes. Please tell us how you did it. I want to be able to work this way in some instances as well. On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Well, Abdul, I have to say, I'm up on the technique for dragging dropping regions in OS 9 with Pro Tools 5.3 but I haven't even tried it with Pro Tools 9. Can you recount your steps? I mean, I'm not sure where exactly one would need to drop with VoiceOver as it doesn't necessarily see the waveform area, per se. Let us know. I bet it'll be news to most of us. :) Cheers, Slau On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hey Slau, As I am a PT novis, please forgive my imprecise descriptions. I am importing a series of audio clips into the regions list, from which I drag and drop into an audio track. I figured it would be far easier this way, rather than constantly importing audio into new tracks-- and approach that is completely unmanageable for me. But I now know how to do the drag and drop; problem solved. Thanks Abdul On 14 Sep 2011, at 01:17, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Abdul, Yes, one would drag the file from the regions list. With VoiceOver, I'm not sure how possible it is at this time. Let me say that, normally, you'd import an audio file directly to a new track. This makes it easy to cut and paste into other tracks. If the region exists in the session already, that would usually mean it was recorded into the session and thus should be able to be found elsewhere in one of the tracks. Can you explain how it is that you have a region in the regions list and not in any track? It might help in my answer. Cheers, Slau On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get audio from the regions list, on to a track. It appears that simply copying and pasting is not an option, and that instead, I would need to drag and drop-- at least, I'm told that this is how the sighted folks do it. Is this correct? If so, what is the work around? Can a surface control with programmable keys be one of them? Abdul
Fwd: dragging and dropping
Hey Slau, Kevin and All Please forgive the delay. I have seen your messages whilst at work, but up until now have not had a chance to respond. For you frame of reference, I am using PT 9.0.5 on the latest version of Snow Leopard. Below are the steps I found on the internet for drag and drop with VO. I have a more streamlined approach, but as some of you may have slightly different VO behavioral settings, it's best that we start off with the more expanded but generic version. 1. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the item you want to drag. 2. Press VO-Command-F5 to move the mouse pointer to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can verify you have done this correctly with VO-F5 to hear what is under the mouse. 3. Begin the drag action with VO-Command-Shift-Space. you will hear the click of a mouse being pressed, but not released. 4. Turn off Cursor Tracking with VO-Shift-F3. 5. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the location where you want to drop the item you are dragging. 6. Use VO-Command-F5 again to move the mouse cursor to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can press VO-F5 to verify you have done this correctly and hear what is currently under the mouse. 7. Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the item being dragged. You will hear the click of a mouse being released. 8. Turn your cursor tracking back on with VO-Shift-F3. I have set in the VO utility that the mouse follows the VO cursor, so steps 2 and 6 are unnecessary for me. As is steps 4 and 8. So assuming your VO settings are similar to mine, here are my steps as it relates to PT. 1. In the Edit window, go to and interact with the regions list. Assuming the cursor tracking is on, you can use the up and down arrow keys to select a region, use shift + up or down arrow keys to select contiguous regions, or use a series of VO commands (that I cannot remember right now) to select noncontiguous regions. I seem to recall that the latter requires the temporary deactivation of cursor tracking. 2. Press VO + Command + Shift + Spacebar for the down click. 3. Press VO + I for the item chooser menu. Then start typing the name of the track where you would like to drag the region (narrows down the options, saves time). Pressing return or enter on the desired item (i.e. track) from the chooser menu places the VO cursor on the desired spot.. 4. For the release, repeat Step 2, and presto! HTH A On 14 Sep 2011, at 23:26, Slau wrote: Hey Abdul, I don't know how much you keep an eye on the PTAccess list but several of us inquired about how you managed to drag and drop successfully. Just a heads up about the inquiries. cheers, slau
Re: dragging and dropping
Hi Abdul, Thanks for the description. Thing is, at least in previous versions of Pro Tools, one actually had to get the region at least into the waveform area. Thus far, it's not possible (as far as anyone can tell) to definitively put that cursor within the waveform area. Perhaps now, just simply getting it within range of any of the track's controls will do. For what it's worth, there are different ways of dragging which yield different results. That is, it's possible to drag to the insertion point within a track or to the exact location of wherever the pointer is over the track. So, you see, there are potential issues with dragging although, for most practical purposes, just being able to get it anywhere within a track would be helpful. Cheers, Slau On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Abdul D Kamara wrote: Hey Slau, Kevin and All Please forgive the delay. I have seen your messages whilst at work, but up until now have not had a chance to respond. For you frame of reference, I am using PT 9.0.5 on the latest version of Snow Leopard. Below are the steps I found on the internet for drag and drop with VO. I have a more streamlined approach, but as some of you may have slightly different VO behavioral settings, it's best that we start off with the more expanded but generic version. 1. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the item you want to drag. 2. Press VO-Command-F5 to move the mouse pointer to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can verify you have done this correctly with VO-F5 to hear what is under the mouse. 3. Begin the drag action with VO-Command-Shift-Space. you will hear the click of a mouse being pressed, but not released. 4. Turn off Cursor Tracking with VO-Shift-F3. 5. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the location where you want to drop the item you are dragging. 6. Use VO-Command-F5 again to move the mouse cursor to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can press VO-F5 to verify you have done this correctly and hear what is currently under the mouse. 7. Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the item being dragged. You will hear the click of a mouse being released. 8. Turn your cursor tracking back on with VO-Shift-F3. I have set in the VO utility that the mouse follows the VO cursor, so steps 2 and 6 are unnecessary for me. As is steps 4 and 8. So assuming your VO settings are similar to mine, here are my steps as it relates to PT. 1. In the Edit window, go to and interact with the regions list. Assuming the cursor tracking is on, you can use the up and down arrow keys to select a region, use shift + up or down arrow keys to select contiguous regions, or use a series of VO commands (that I cannot remember right now) to select noncontiguous regions. I seem to recall that the latter requires the temporary deactivation of cursor tracking. 2. Press VO + Command + Shift + Spacebar for the down click. 3. Press VO + I for the item chooser menu. Then start typing the name of the track where you would like to drag the region (narrows down the options, saves time). Pressing return or enter on the desired item (i.e. track) from the chooser menu places the VO cursor on the desired spot.. 4. For the release, repeat Step 2, and presto! HTH A On 14 Sep 2011, at 23:26, Slau wrote: Hey Abdul, I don't know how much you keep an eye on the PTAccess list but several of us inquired about how you managed to drag and drop successfully. Just a heads up about the inquiries. cheers, slau
