Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Chesworth
Surprised and sad to read this, but I guess everyone has to find a
balance between expending energy and seeing some return for it.
Actually, looking at it from that angle, I guess it's a pleasant
surprise that it took this long for the man to grind you down lol.

Thanks for everything man. Hopefully, we'll see the result of what you
set in motion before too long.

Scott

On 9/19/13, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,

 For various reasons, I'm going to limit my future involvement regarding the
 work of accessibility in Pro Tools. It's been a long ride and I've been
 thinking about this for some time. I've managed to develop important
 relationships with the folks at Avid and I'm pleased that we managed to get
 the issue of accessibility onto a level of IL support just like other
 international languages. It was a pivotal moment.

 I feel I've done all I can do for now. Avid continues to be committed to the
 end result of making Pro tools accessible and I have no doubt that the work
 will continue. I've approached Rick Boggs about taking the reigns, so to
 speak. The fact is, he's the one that started the whole ball rolling almost
 20 years ago when Digidesign first helped make Pro Tools accessible with
 outSPOKEN. Rick is an excellent communicator and I think he'll be effective
 in continuing the relationship that we've worked to build over the years. I
 encourage you all to support him.

 I'm obviously not disappearing. I'll still help whenever possible. I
 appreciate those who have supported me throughout the years.

 I'm leaving town for a few days to attend a family wedding but I'll be back
 after the weekend. We'll be in touch.

 Best,

 slau

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Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread Stefan Albertshauser
Hi Slau,

Thank you for the affords, You made. I have two questions:
1. How can we as community help Rick Boggs?
2. It's also interesting, how the current state of accessibility is. Are there 
changes, that happened after your last mail, you wrote to the list?

Best wishes

Stefan

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RE: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hey Slau:

You're a class act.

Thanks.



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Subject: Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

Hi Slau,

Thank you for the affords, You made. I have two questions:
1. How can we as community help Rick Boggs?
2. It's also interesting, how the current state of accessibility is. Are
there changes, that happened after your last mail, you wrote to the list?

Best wishes

Stefan

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Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread Chris Norman

Well, thanks for all you've done mate, and glad you're sticking about!

On 19/09/2013 01:39, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Folks,

For various reasons, I'm going to limit my future involvement regarding the 
work of accessibility in Pro Tools. It's been a long ride and I've been 
thinking about this for some time. I've managed to develop important 
relationships with the folks at Avid and I'm pleased that we managed to get the 
issue of accessibility onto a level of IL support just like other international 
languages. It was a pivotal moment.

I feel I've done all I can do for now. Avid continues to be committed to the 
end result of making Pro tools accessible and I have no doubt that the work 
will continue. I've approached Rick Boggs about taking the reigns, so to speak. 
The fact is, he's the one that started the whole ball rolling almost 20 years 
ago when Digidesign first helped make Pro Tools accessible with outSPOKEN. Rick 
is an excellent communicator and I think he'll be effective in continuing the 
relationship that we've worked to build over the years. I encourage you all to 
support him.

I'm obviously not disappearing. I'll still help whenever possible. I appreciate 
those who have supported me throughout the years.

I'm leaving town for a few days to attend a family wedding but I'll be back 
after the weekend. We'll be in touch.

Best,

slau



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Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread Kevin Shaw
Slau,

YOur contribution to ProTools accessibility will go down in history. As far as 
I'm concerned, you and Rick are the Armstrong and Aldrin of ProTools 
accessibility. YOu've brought accessibility out of the shadows and into the 
spotlight and your efforts will change the lives of many, from the enthusiast 
to the professional.

If the NARAS could give out a Grammy for technical and social achievements, 
you, rick, Kevin and all of the other folks who have worked tirelessly to put 
ProTools accessibility on he map should share one of those trophies for sure.

As our friend Neil Young says, keep on rocking int he free world and thanks for 
everything.

Cheers,
Kevin shaw

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Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

2013-09-19 Thread Mike Lockett
Hey Ramy as I said Avid is as we speak resolving the accessibility
issues in pro tools.
Lets not delude ourselves there are many DAWS used in many studios
But from my experience working in rooms outside of mine
And receiving sessions for clients, Pro Tools owns the greater share
of the software recording market.
If your desire is to work using Pro Tools just exercise a bit more patience.


On 9/18/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ramy, I felt the same way that you do, like you need to have PT to be
 considered a viable studio, but I am coming to the terms that that is not
 always the case. I find that maybe 2% of clients, if even that many, even
 ask what softwhere is being used. They mainly just want a clean recording
 that is professional quality. Also, consider this, if you are not familiar
 with VoiceOver and Protools, then you have at least a six month to a year
 learning curve to offer really compatent studio services with the Mac IMO. I

 would try to get the money back in my hand if possible, look for an older I7

 mac mini if it looks to be worth it or a Imac that is no older than 2011 if

 you can't resolve this issue. Also, what are some of your recording goals,
 do you see yourself using alot of soft sinths to creat music productions, do

 you see yourself doing alot of mixing with heavy track counts between 48 and

 98 tracks? Remember, we can be our worst enamy when it comes to assessing
 the tools that we really need. We often think if we just have that one new
 thing we will be able to change the whole game, but this is seldom the
 case.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?


 Ok, but they will not fix my issue.
 So what?


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:22 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

 Hi, I would call Apple on the phone and be infront of the system if it
 is possible as the more people like me that do call them and demo the
 issue the more results we should get.  I knew this issue was going to
 happen with the newer systems as I have other sited friends who can't go
 back to Lion as the hardware is not supported.  I am not saying we are
 not making progress but I think we all should do more on this issue such
 as calling people like Apple on the phone and refreshing their minds on
 these issues as if enough of us call and explain the issues they will
 get resolved.  I would also mention like I did that as Apple supports
 education so much and as pro tools is used for audio engineering
 students like me this is something they should really work on.  Nick
 Gawronski
 On 9/18/2013 9:37 AM, ramy moustafa wrote:
 aha thanks so much for your replys. but, even the latest updates to ml
 didn't fix the issue?
 i'm really in trouble and don't know what to do.
 anyway, if you can think with me for a solution please tell me.
 thanks so much

 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 They're probably struggling because his Mac Mini was manufactured
 recently, and some of the new hardware won't be supported by Lion. Had
 the same problem here. I got around it by buying a used machine that
 was built when Lion was the latest OS and doing some hardware upgrades
 to bring it up to a spec that runs well with big sessions.

 Dunno what to advise beyond doing the same thing I did really. Even
 then, I only made that move because there was work that relies on me
 being in PT guaranteed. Without that, I can't say I would've bothered
 until the future is a bit more certain.

 Scott

 On 9/18/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Edit fields won't read at all. FOr example where you go to enter in
 tempo or
 to see what thempo the project is in. What the counters are set to etc
 etc.
 I am not sure why your apple store is doing there, but it
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 6:36 AM, Ramy Moustafa
 moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all:


 After a week with my apple store here, and after they do all things
 really
 to install Lion on my Mac mini, they failed, in doing this,

 So, my mac mini is with mountain lion, so, what is your advice?

 What are the problems that  I will face when using pro tools  with
 voice
 over?

 I have pro tools  9, but of cores it will not work, so, I must get
 10,

 But need to know the disadvantages, of Mountain lion.

 And, please, what about protocols v11, is it good with vo or what?

 Thanks so much


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Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Mike,

Interesting. I was under the impression that the big bug with Pro
Tools in ML was Apples to tackle, rather than Avid. Have I got that
wrong? Of course, that's not to detract from all the other stuff Avid
would need to tidy up to make PT 11 workable, but just wanted to be
sure I was up to date on how the land lies.

Scott

On 9/19/13, Mike Lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Ramy as I said Avid is as we speak resolving the accessibility
 issues in pro tools.
 Lets not delude ourselves there are many DAWS used in many studios
 But from my experience working in rooms outside of mine
 And receiving sessions for clients, Pro Tools owns the greater share
 of the software recording market.
 If your desire is to work using Pro Tools just exercise a bit more
 patience.


 On 9/18/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ramy, I felt the same way that you do, like you need to have PT to be
 considered a viable studio, but I am coming to the terms that that is not
 always the case. I find that maybe 2% of clients, if even that many, even
 ask what softwhere is being used. They mainly just want a clean recording
 that is professional quality. Also, consider this, if you are not
 familiar
 with VoiceOver and Protools, then you have at least a six month to a year
 learning curve to offer really compatent studio services with the Mac IMO.
 I

 would try to get the money back in my hand if possible, look for an older
 I7

 mac mini if it looks to be worth it or a Imac that is no older than 2011
 if

 you can't resolve this issue. Also, what are some of your recording
 goals,
 do you see yourself using alot of soft sinths to creat music productions,
 do

 you see yourself doing alot of mixing with heavy track counts between 48
 and

 98 tracks? Remember, we can be our worst enamy when it comes to assessing
 the tools that we really need. We often think if we just have that one
 new
 thing we will be able to change the whole game, but this is seldom the
 case.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?


 Ok, but they will not fix my issue.
 So what?


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:22 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

 Hi, I would call Apple on the phone and be infront of the system if it
 is possible as the more people like me that do call them and demo the
 issue the more results we should get.  I knew this issue was going to
 happen with the newer systems as I have other sited friends who can't go
 back to Lion as the hardware is not supported.  I am not saying we are
 not making progress but I think we all should do more on this issue such
 as calling people like Apple on the phone and refreshing their minds on
 these issues as if enough of us call and explain the issues they will
 get resolved.  I would also mention like I did that as Apple supports
 education so much and as pro tools is used for audio engineering
 students like me this is something they should really work on.  Nick
 Gawronski
 On 9/18/2013 9:37 AM, ramy moustafa wrote:
 aha thanks so much for your replys. but, even the latest updates to ml
 didn't fix the issue?
 i'm really in trouble and don't know what to do.
 anyway, if you can think with me for a solution please tell me.
 thanks so much

 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 They're probably struggling because his Mac Mini was manufactured
 recently, and some of the new hardware won't be supported by Lion. Had
 the same problem here. I got around it by buying a used machine that
 was built when Lion was the latest OS and doing some hardware upgrades
 to bring it up to a spec that runs well with big sessions.

 Dunno what to advise beyond doing the same thing I did really. Even
 then, I only made that move because there was work that relies on me
 being in PT guaranteed. Without that, I can't say I would've bothered
 until the future is a bit more certain.

 Scott

 On 9/18/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Edit fields won't read at all. FOr example where you go to enter in
 tempo or
 to see what thempo the project is in. What the counters are set to
 etc
 etc.
 I am not sure why your apple store is doing there, but it
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 6:36 AM, Ramy Moustafa
 moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all:


 After a week with my apple store here, and after they do all things
 really
 to install Lion on my Mac mini, they failed, in doing this,

 So, my mac mini is with mountain lion, so, what is your advice?

 What are the problems that  I will 

Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility

2013-09-19 Thread David Eagle
Thanks for all your endeavours Slau. Your dedication to the cause really means 
a lot. Thanks for everything. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 19 Sep 2013, at 12:59, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Slau,
 
 YOur contribution to ProTools accessibility will go down in history. As far 
 as I'm concerned, you and Rick are the Armstrong and Aldrin of ProTools 
 accessibility. YOu've brought accessibility out of the shadows and into the 
 spotlight and your efforts will change the lives of many, from the enthusiast 
 to the professional.
 
 If the NARAS could give out a Grammy for technical and social achievements, 
 you, rick, Kevin and all of the other folks who have worked tirelessly to put 
 ProTools accessibility on he map should share one of those trophies for sure.
 
 As our friend Neil Young says, keep on rocking int he free world and thanks 
 for everything.
 
 Cheers,
 Kevin shaw
 
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Anyone using the tascam us 2400 Surfase?

2013-09-19 Thread Poppa Bear
Anyone using this surface and if so, how is the build, accessibility and 
latency? I am looking to up grade from my 002, but am a little skeptical of a 
USB interface. I have thought about an RME set up and run my Mackie onyx into 
it, but I don't want to lose my transport functions. Any thoughts?

Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and 
all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

 

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RE: Anyone using the tascam us 2400 Surfase?

2013-09-19 Thread Jed Barton
Curious to hear about this myself.

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:48 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone using the tascam us 2400 Surfase?

 

Anyone using this surface and if so, how is the build, accessibility and
latency? I am looking to up grade from my 002, but am a little skeptical of
a USB interface. I have thought about an RME set up and run my Mackie onyx
into it, but I don't want to lose my transport functions. Any thoughts?

Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering
and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
http://www.crossroadrecording.com/ 

 

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Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Chesworth
Ooh, good to know. Something to look forward to then.

Scott

On 9/19/13, Mike Lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Scott,
 Avid found some issues with the way they displayed certain items and it
 Affects the way it reports them to the OS.

 They are working with Apple to rectify this as we speak.

 This release will be available in a few months according to them.
 Here’s to looking up!!!


 On 9/19/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Mike,

 Interesting. I was under the impression that the big bug with Pro
 Tools in ML was Apples to tackle, rather than Avid. Have I got that
 wrong? Of course, that's not to detract from all the other stuff Avid
 would need to tidy up to make PT 11 workable, but just wanted to be
 sure I was up to date on how the land lies.

 Scott

 On 9/19/13, Mike Lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Ramy as I said Avid is as we speak resolving the accessibility
 issues in pro tools.
 Lets not delude ourselves there are many DAWS used in many studios
 But from my experience working in rooms outside of mine
 And receiving sessions for clients, Pro Tools owns the greater share
 of the software recording market.
 If your desire is to work using Pro Tools just exercise a bit more
 patience.


 On 9/18/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ramy, I felt the same way that you do, like you need to have PT to be
 considered a viable studio, but I am coming to the terms that that is
 not
 always the case. I find that maybe 2% of clients, if even that many,
 even
 ask what softwhere is being used. They mainly just want a clean
 recording
 that is professional quality. Also, consider this, if you are not
 familiar
 with VoiceOver and Protools, then you have at least a six month to a
 year
 learning curve to offer really compatent studio services with the Mac
 IMO.
 I

 would try to get the money back in my hand if possible, look for an
 older
 I7

 mac mini if it looks to be worth it or a Imac that is no older than
 2011
 if

 you can't resolve this issue. Also, what are some of your recording
 goals,
 do you see yourself using alot of soft sinths to creat music
 productions,
 do

 you see yourself doing alot of mixing with heavy track counts between
 48
 and

 98 tracks? Remember, we can be our worst enamy when it comes to
 assessing
 the tools that we really need. We often think if we just have that one
 new
 thing we will be able to change the whole game, but this is seldom the
 case.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?


 Ok, but they will not fix my issue.
 So what?


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:22 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

 Hi, I would call Apple on the phone and be infront of the system if it
 is possible as the more people like me that do call them and demo the
 issue the more results we should get.  I knew this issue was going to
 happen with the newer systems as I have other sited friends who can't
 go
 back to Lion as the hardware is not supported.  I am not saying we are
 not making progress but I think we all should do more on this issue
 such
 as calling people like Apple on the phone and refreshing their minds
 on
 these issues as if enough of us call and explain the issues they will
 get resolved.  I would also mention like I did that as Apple supports
 education so much and as pro tools is used for audio engineering
 students like me this is something they should really work on.  Nick
 Gawronski
 On 9/18/2013 9:37 AM, ramy moustafa wrote:
 aha thanks so much for your replys. but, even the latest updates to
 ml
 didn't fix the issue?
 i'm really in trouble and don't know what to do.
 anyway, if you can think with me for a solution please tell me.
 thanks so much

 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 They're probably struggling because his Mac Mini was manufactured
 recently, and some of the new hardware won't be supported by Lion.
 Had
 the same problem here. I got around it by buying a used machine that
 was built when Lion was the latest OS and doing some hardware
 upgrades
 to bring it up to a spec that runs well with big sessions.

 Dunno what to advise beyond doing the same thing I did really. Even
 then, I only made that move because there was work that relies on me
 being in PT guaranteed. Without that, I can't say I would've
 bothered
 until the future is a bit more certain.

 Scott

 On 9/18/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Edit fields won't read at all. FOr example where you go to enter 

Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

2013-09-19 Thread Mike Lockett
Hey Scott,
Avid found some issues with the way they displayed certain items and it
Affects the way it reports them to the OS.

They are working with Apple to rectify this as we speak.

This release will be available in a few months according to them.
Here’s to looking up!!!


On 9/19/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Mike,

 Interesting. I was under the impression that the big bug with Pro
 Tools in ML was Apples to tackle, rather than Avid. Have I got that
 wrong? Of course, that's not to detract from all the other stuff Avid
 would need to tidy up to make PT 11 workable, but just wanted to be
 sure I was up to date on how the land lies.

 Scott

 On 9/19/13, Mike Lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Ramy as I said Avid is as we speak resolving the accessibility
 issues in pro tools.
 Lets not delude ourselves there are many DAWS used in many studios
 But from my experience working in rooms outside of mine
 And receiving sessions for clients, Pro Tools owns the greater share
 of the software recording market.
 If your desire is to work using Pro Tools just exercise a bit more
 patience.


 On 9/18/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ramy, I felt the same way that you do, like you need to have PT to be
 considered a viable studio, but I am coming to the terms that that is
 not
 always the case. I find that maybe 2% of clients, if even that many,
 even
 ask what softwhere is being used. They mainly just want a clean
 recording
 that is professional quality. Also, consider this, if you are not
 familiar
 with VoiceOver and Protools, then you have at least a six month to a
 year
 learning curve to offer really compatent studio services with the Mac
 IMO.
 I

 would try to get the money back in my hand if possible, look for an
 older
 I7

 mac mini if it looks to be worth it or a Imac that is no older than 2011
 if

 you can't resolve this issue. Also, what are some of your recording
 goals,
 do you see yourself using alot of soft sinths to creat music
 productions,
 do

 you see yourself doing alot of mixing with heavy track counts between 48
 and

 98 tracks? Remember, we can be our worst enamy when it comes to
 assessing
 the tools that we really need. We often think if we just have that one
 new
 thing we will be able to change the whole game, but this is seldom the
 case.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?


 Ok, but they will not fix my issue.
 So what?


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:22 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just mountain lion! please give me advice?

 Hi, I would call Apple on the phone and be infront of the system if it
 is possible as the more people like me that do call them and demo the
 issue the more results we should get.  I knew this issue was going to
 happen with the newer systems as I have other sited friends who can't
 go
 back to Lion as the hardware is not supported.  I am not saying we are
 not making progress but I think we all should do more on this issue
 such
 as calling people like Apple on the phone and refreshing their minds on
 these issues as if enough of us call and explain the issues they will
 get resolved.  I would also mention like I did that as Apple supports
 education so much and as pro tools is used for audio engineering
 students like me this is something they should really work on.  Nick
 Gawronski
 On 9/18/2013 9:37 AM, ramy moustafa wrote:
 aha thanks so much for your replys. but, even the latest updates to ml
 didn't fix the issue?
 i'm really in trouble and don't know what to do.
 anyway, if you can think with me for a solution please tell me.
 thanks so much

 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Scott Chesworth
 scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 They're probably struggling because his Mac Mini was manufactured
 recently, and some of the new hardware won't be supported by Lion.
 Had
 the same problem here. I got around it by buying a used machine that
 was built when Lion was the latest OS and doing some hardware
 upgrades
 to bring it up to a spec that runs well with big sessions.

 Dunno what to advise beyond doing the same thing I did really. Even
 then, I only made that move because there was work that relies on me
 being in PT guaranteed. Without that, I can't say I would've bothered
 until the future is a bit more certain.

 Scott

 On 9/18/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Edit fields won't read at all. FOr example where you go to enter in
 tempo or
 to see what thempo the project is in. What the counters are set to
 etc
 etc.
 I am not sure why your apple