Re: Control surface help

2015-02-15 Thread Scott Chesworth
Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
at your disposal.

On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are they still supported?

 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.






 On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.

 On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
 No
 box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in
 buying it.

 HTH someone.

 On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
 David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
 yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled
 by
 midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have
 a
 Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode.
 I
 think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and
 busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60
 and
 control anything I wanted with midi.

 OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's
 extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
 idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
 money
 through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
 control
 surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not
 sure
 I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.





 On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that
 much
 I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing
 with
 the control surface.

 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume
 that
 you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this
 is
 the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport
 allow
 you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume
 and
 pan?

 Thanks.

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Re: Control surface help

2015-02-15 Thread David Eagle
Oh, and it turns out that the M-Audio oxygen keyboards work with ProTools in 
terms of controling track volume and pan and transport, plus virtual instrument 
controls, but not audio plugin controls. So our options really are limited. I 
think Avid are trying to force you into buying their HD system or an Artist mix 
surface.


 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
 manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
 Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
 at your disposal.
 
 On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are they still supported?
 
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
 
 On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
 No
 box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in
 buying it.
 
 HTH someone.
 
 On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
 David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
 yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled
 by
 midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have
 a
 Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode.
 I
 think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and
 busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60
 and
 control anything I wanted with midi.
 
 OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's
 extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
 idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
 money
 through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
 control
 surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not
 sure
 I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that
 much
 I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing
 with
 the control surface.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume
 that
 you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this
 is
 the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport
 allow
 you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume
 and
 pan?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Control surface help

2015-02-15 Thread David Eagle
Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If I 
need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more 
advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they allow VST 
Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their ways, and 
reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a feature in PT8.

The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can easily 
foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the next 
release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, rather than 
spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do for free with 
Sonar.


 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
 manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
 Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
 at your disposal.
 
 On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are they still supported?
 
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
 
 On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
 No
 box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in
 buying it.
 
 HTH someone.
 
 On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
 David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
 yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled
 by
 midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have
 a
 Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode.
 I
 think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and
 busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60
 and
 control anything I wanted with midi.
 
 OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's
 extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
 idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
 money
 through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
 control
 surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not
 sure
 I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that
 much
 I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing
 with
 the control surface.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume
 that
 you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this
 is
 the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport
 allow
 you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume
 and
 pan?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Control surface help

2015-02-15 Thread TheOreoMonster
If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to 
control plugins as well?  I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i haven’t 
been getting those messages as of late. 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t 
 mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control surface. 
 Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to the RWP 
 mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop support 
 for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point about reaper and 
 its why i use it myself. 
 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with 
 ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If I 
 need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more 
 advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they allow 
 VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their ways, and 
 reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a feature in PT8.
 
 The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can 
 easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the 
 next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, rather 
 than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do for free 
 with Sonar.
 
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being
 manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates.
 Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have
 at your disposal.
 
 On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are they still supported?
 
 We print the Bible in Braille,
 http://biblesfortheblind.org
 Keith Reedy
 God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson
 Taylor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units.
 
 On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used.
 No
 box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in
 buying it.
 
 HTH someone.
 
 On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote:
 David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet
 yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be 
 controlled
 by
 midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have
 a
 Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI 
 mode.
 I
 think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and
 busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60
 and
 control anything I wanted with midi.
 
 OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's
 extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its
 idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making
 money
 through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist
 control
 surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not
 sure
 I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that
 much
 I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing
 with
 the control surface.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle
 onlineea...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume
 that
 you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this
 is
 the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport
 allow
 you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume
 and
 pan?
 
 Thanks.
 
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