Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. Thanks, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. Thanks, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Hi guys, The issue of changing plug-in values in greater increments is one of those situations where a paradigm shift would need to take place for it to be different. That, of course, might happen at some point but not right now—not yet, at least. For the time being, a control surface is your friend and you can change parameter values at whichever rate you choose. Be assured, however, that plug-in issues will be looked at for the long run. The reduction meters are also on the list. Mind you, of course, I will have one day to address all concerns and we simply won't get to everything. Whatever we gain is better than nothing and I'm hopeful that a number issues can be addressed. Cheers, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
The faders are Post compressor. This means that when you turn up the level, you are increasing what happens after compression is applied. In the compressor plug, there's an input fader as well, so you can feed more into the comp if you want. Hope this helps. Kevin On 3/23/2015 8:50 AM, David Eagle wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com mailto:overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com javascript: wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com javascript: wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. Thanks, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Hi Slau, No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to hear. After all, it really is about using your ears. Brian On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Using your ears is fine, However, with compressors that feature automatic make up gain, it could be quite tricky to hear what the compressor is actually doing, because the gain is being made up in real time as you adjust the controls. For this reason, it would be great to have the gain reduction meters read by voiceover. Also, I agree with the person who said that it would be good to be able to type in values for parameters in plugins. Jason On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to hear. After all, it really is about using your ears. Brian On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Oh I agree regarding auto makeup gain. You want to train yourself using a compressor that allows you to turn auto makeup off, or doesn't have it at all. i.e. i fthere's a manual makeup gain control, leave it off while you're playing with things. At 11:16 AM 3/23/2015, you wrote: Using your ears is fine, However, with compressors that feature automatic make up gain, it could be quite tricky to hear what the compressor is actually doing, because the gain is being made up in real time as you adjust the controls. For this reason, it would be great to have the gain reduction meters read by voiceover. Also, I agree with the person who said that it would be good to be able to type in values for parameters in plugins. Jason On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, No, that is a great answer, and something that I needed to hear. After all, it really is about using your ears. Brian On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
agreed. learn to notice when a compressor is active and when it isn't. At 09:45 AM 3/23/2015, you wrote: Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Brian, Please call me at some point today. Haven't heard from you in a while, and would absolutely love! to catch up. This number is public knowledge, as it's my work desk phone, so I have no problem at all giving you this number on list. 704-594-2225X701 --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:39 AM Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said,
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
``Actually, if you happen to have a braille display with whiz weels like the focus 40 blue, you can make value changes a lot quicker. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:45 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for
Re: Pro-tools 12 just released
Yes, from what Slau said in a different post it sounded like there's nothing new in terms of accessibility in 12 right now, I also hope nothing is broken. I'm not 100% on this yet, but from what I could find out so far it looks like upgrading from 11 to 12 will cost $199. So now I'm just wondering, if I baught PT11 a month or so ago, what would have happend, what about the entire all updates free for the year of your support plan thing? I would have kicked myself if I baught PT11 just a week ago but luckally some things got in the way, I'll get clarity on upgrading from 11 to 12 and whether it might be free, then I'll decide whether to buy now or wait a bit longer. On 3/23/15, Chris Harrington charringt...@gmail.com wrote: There aren't any excess ability changes from ProTools 11 to 12. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Nickus de Vos To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released Hi all Just saw that Avid released PT12 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: a word about Pro Tools 12
Hi Slau So just to be clear, in terms of accessibility, nothing really new in 12 but also nothing broken? On 3/22/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not going to be breaking any NDA by saying this and, besides, it's no secret that Pro Tools 12 will be coming out soon, like, maybe even tomorrow. Please be aware that there is essentially nothing different about its accessibility. There's a newly designed I/O Setup but, to a VoiceOver user, it appears much the same. If anything, there are a few extra controls. The authorization aspect of Pro Tools will be changing and it's unclear whether this will change right from this new release or whether it'll be incorporated over time but it won't be any more accessible than standard iLok authorization for now. Be assured, however, that it will be made accessible. More info to come as it becomes clearer. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: SPL Transient Designer is fully accessible
Slau, Thanks for this, exciting to think about the control. I think I will take it for a spin in Logic. kr On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Having used the hardware version, I had always wanted to check out the plug-in. Just wanted to mention that it is, in fact, completely accessible. Just like its hardware counterpart, it only has a handful of controls which are all very useable. Further, there are already a bunch of presets in the preset pop-up menu. Finally, although iLok authorization is supported, it's not necessary and you can authorize up to three computers online without using any iLok. If you purchase through a retailer, you'll still have to create a Plug-in Alliance account to redeem the code for the download but it's quick and easy. Better still, you can download a free trial that requires no dongle. Check out more info here: https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/spl_transient_designer.html HTH, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pro-tools 12 just released
There aren't any excess ability changes from ProTools 11 to 12. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Nickus de Vos To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released Hi all Just saw that Avid released PT12 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: a word about Pro Tools 12
Hi, Does anyone know if the digi 003 with the moving controls is supported in Pro Tools version 12? I was mainly asking as I don't want to upgrade unless I can use it or if there is an option to trade it in for a newer interface with moving controls. Nick Gawronski On 3/23/2015 3:27 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: To my knowledge, all should be the same with the possible exception of the authorization which was already beginning to transition. In other words, neither the iLok method or the built-in method is accessible yet. Both will be accessible in time, probably one before the other. At any rate, I've only had beta experience and, to me, it looks the same as far as I can tell. Mind you, I'll have to purchase an upgrade like everyone else but for the HD users, the cost is $599 and I won't be using it on the new machine yet so I might wait just a little while. Apparently, there's no option for a co-install of 11 and 12. Therefore, it would seem to me that this means no co-install of 10 and 12 as well. There's a lot of confusion about what the real case is. This is all pretty new to everybody so it's probably a good idea to wait until the dust settles. Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau So just to be clear, in terms of accessibility, nothing really new in 12 but also nothing broken? On 3/22/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not going to be breaking any NDA by saying this and, besides, it's no secret that Pro Tools 12 will be coming out soon, like, maybe even tomorrow. Please be aware that there is essentially nothing different about its accessibility. There's a newly designed I/O Setup but, to a VoiceOver user, it appears much the same. If anything, there are a few extra controls. The authorization aspect of Pro Tools will be changing and it's unclear whether this will change right from this new release or whether it'll be incorporated over time but it won't be any more accessible than standard iLok authorization for now. Be assured, however, that it will be made accessible. More info to come as it becomes clearer. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: a word about Pro Tools 12
To my knowledge, all should be the same with the possible exception of the authorization which was already beginning to transition. In other words, neither the iLok method or the built-in method is accessible yet. Both will be accessible in time, probably one before the other. At any rate, I've only had beta experience and, to me, it looks the same as far as I can tell. Mind you, I'll have to purchase an upgrade like everyone else but for the HD users, the cost is $599 and I won't be using it on the new machine yet so I might wait just a little while. Apparently, there's no option for a co-install of 11 and 12. Therefore, it would seem to me that this means no co-install of 10 and 12 as well. There's a lot of confusion about what the real case is. This is all pretty new to everybody so it's probably a good idea to wait until the dust settles. Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau So just to be clear, in terms of accessibility, nothing really new in 12 but also nothing broken? On 3/22/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not going to be breaking any NDA by saying this and, besides, it's no secret that Pro Tools 12 will be coming out soon, like, maybe even tomorrow. Please be aware that there is essentially nothing different about its accessibility. There's a newly designed I/O Setup but, to a VoiceOver user, it appears much the same. If anything, there are a few extra controls. The authorization aspect of Pro Tools will be changing and it's unclear whether this will change right from this new release or whether it'll be incorporated over time but it won't be any more accessible than standard iLok authorization for now. Be assured, however, that it will be made accessible. More info to come as it becomes clearer. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Pro-tools 12 just released
Hi all Just saw that Avid released PT12 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: Pro-tools 12 just released
I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Nickus de Vos To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released Hi all Just saw that Avid released PT12 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Hi Brian, I see your question has already been answered, but it raises another one. The way its phrased suggests that you can read gain reduction with your current setup. I'm curious about what you're using, just because in both of my regular DAWs it isn't doable. Feel free to drop me a line off list so we don't stray off topic. Cheers Scott On 3/23/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The
Re: Pro-tools 12 just released
So then... is there any point in the first place in upgrading then? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Chris Harrington To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Pro-tools 12 just released There aren't any excess ability changes from ProTools 11 to 12. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Nickus de Vos To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released Hi all Just saw that Avid released PT12 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.