Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out. Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello Slau! Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work again. My fault was that I tried it in the edit window. Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Hi Slau Thanks for the quick reply and the very good summery. I certainly had my fair share of issues with mouse clicking in the past and 90% of the time I don’t get the click with the first try. It certainly sounds as if a trackpad would be helpful in some situations and maybe I should just take the plunge and get one. Thanks again, if you can think of anything else to add, please do. Nickus On 24 Aug 2015, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nickus, The advantage of a track pad is that, when you go to perform a click, all you have to do is touch the surface anywhere on the track pad and you'll be successful. the problem with the mouse is that, when you go to touch it, you might accidentally move the mouse before clicking. It's not reliable enough. Yes, it works in a pinch but I personally couldn't live with that day in and day out. The track pad is stationary and large. It won't move when you get your bearings and it doesn't move after you've pressed it. To me, it's more reliable and consistent. Since its active range is fixed in a physical dimension, it's possible to touch a specific point and move the focus to that area of the screen more reliably than having to move a mouse which is only relative to the mouse's travel rather than an actual physical point. I tend not to use the track pad for those purposes but it's certainly possible to use it that way and some folks might find that really helpful. For example, in the Mix window, you can touch, say, the right side of the track pad and you'll hear the names of tracks that appear toward the right side of the Mix window. Rather than starting from the left with voiceOver and moving through all of the tracks, the track pad allows you to more quickly focus on that right side area to begin with. Once you've located the track, you can then pick up with keyboard commands. The same holds true for other windows. Again, I typically don't use it that way but it's entirely possible and others might prefer that method. Cheers, Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the wireless mouse. Nickus On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out. Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello Slau! Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work again. My fault was that I tried it in the edit window. Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Hi all I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the wireless mouse. Nickus On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out. Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello Slau! Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work again. My fault was that I tried it in the edit window. Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Hi Nickus, The advantage of a track pad is that, when you go to perform a click, all you have to do is touch the surface anywhere on the track pad and you'll be successful. the problem with the mouse is that, when you go to touch it, you might accidentally move the mouse before clicking. It's not reliable enough. Yes, it works in a pinch but I personally couldn't live with that day in and day out. The track pad is stationary and large. It won't move when you get your bearings and it doesn't move after you've pressed it. To me, it's more reliable and consistent. Since its active range is fixed in a physical dimension, it's possible to touch a specific point and move the focus to that area of the screen more reliably than having to move a mouse which is only relative to the mouse's travel rather than an actual physical point. I tend not to use the track pad for those purposes but it's certainly possible to use it that way and some folks might find that really helpful. For example, in the Mix window, you can touch, say, the right side of the track pad and you'll hear the names of tracks that appear toward the right side of the Mix window. Rather than starting from the left with voiceOver and moving through all of the tracks, the track pad allows you to more quickly focus on that right side area to begin with. Once you've located the track, you can then pick up with keyboard commands. The same holds true for other windows. Again, I typically don't use it that way but it's entirely possible and others might prefer that method. Cheers, Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the wireless mouse. Nickus On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out. Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello Slau! Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work again. My fault was that I tried it in the edit window. Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Hello tot he list! I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with no tsuccess. A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc. But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does not work. Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance! / Martin -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof. Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Well, for starters, don't double-click. The way to press a button is to single click. The way to solo safe a track, for example, is to Command-click which means to hold the modifier and click not double-click. Give that a try. I'm Yosemite and version 12 with no issues. Cheers, Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello tot he list! I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with no tsuccess. A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc. But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does not work. Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance! / Martin -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof. Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Do I have to disable the VoiceOver trackpad support for that? Sorry for asking.. I usually use a controller and I'm asking for a friend. Best! / Martin -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:02 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad Well, for starters, don't double-click. The way to press a button is to single click. The way to solo safe a track, for example, is to Command-click which means to hold the modifier and click not double-click. Give that a try. I'm Yosemite and version 12 with no issues. Cheers, Slau On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote: Hello tot he list! I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with no tsuccess. A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc. But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does not work. Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance! / Martin -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof. Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
Hello Slau! Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work again. My fault was that I tried it in the edit window. Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
