Re: Altiverb

[Niklas Karlsson]

Ok :)
Thank you!

Niklas

Skickat från min iPhone

> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 17:49 skrev Slau Halatyn :
> 
> I can’t say “fully” because I haven’t used every aspect of the plug-in. For 
> me, I can say fully but someone else might say that if they can’t perform a 
> particular task, it’s not fully accessible. It’s quite accessible.
> Slau
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Niklas Karlsson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Slau,
>> 
>> Really interesting information!
>> 
>> Would you say Altiverb is fully accessible with VO or are there any 
>> parameters/buttons that doesn't read?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Niklas
>> 
>> Skickat från min iPhone
>> 
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 01:24 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>>> 
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the lengthy delay. So, in my opinion, Space isn’t loaded with too 
>>> many options. It does have a number of parameters (around 45 or so) that 
>>> can be tweaked and it appears as though there might even be some potential 
>>> for loading impulses although I’m not sure whether it’s possible to do it 
>>> without assistance. More importantly, Space offers very little in the way 
>>> of presets. There are 7 folders with only a couple of presets, sometimes 
>>> only one per category.
>>> Altiverb shows about double the number of parameters and, more importantly, 
>>> it has at least double the number of categories with presets in each 
>>> category that number anywhere from ten to over 25. So, to me, AltiVerb 
>>> offers quicker access to a larger number of starting points. Apart from 
>>> that, it’s regarded as one of the best reverbs on the market. To be honest, 
>>> I’m not really into reverbs all that much. I tend to mix pretty dry and, if 
>>> I’m using reverb, it’s minimal. That said, Altiverb really sounds great 
>>> when it’s cranked up. I just did an album for a well-known lutenist and we 
>>> used Altiverb as the main reverb and put it up against not only other 
>>> reverbs but also other recordings that were done in churches and 
>>> monasteries and Altiverb held its own with ease, not to mention no LF 
>>> rumble.
>>> My two cents,
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On Sep 5, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Slau!
 
 Could you explain the better bit of Altiverb in comparison to space.
 
 Thanks and best! / Martin
 
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Re: List with tools to get to work within PT

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Rui,

The prices change all the time depending on what’s on sale, etc but it’s 
roughly anywhere from $1,000 up to around $2,000 depending on which controller 
you get. If you have a controller already, you can opt for the S-25 which is a 
25-key controller you can use to access the presets and adjust parameters and 
you can use your existing keyboard for performance.

In Pro Tools, you instantiate an instance of the Komplete Kontrol plug-in and 
load the various instruments through it including Kontakt. I haven’t loaded 
third-party libraries but I know others have had some success if the libraries 
are NKS compliant. Native Instruments have a bunch more info on their site.

Since warp markers aren’t accessible, I don’t know of any way to reliably 
create them and quantize them. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible but it’s not a 
straight-forward process as far as I understand it. Some programmers tried to 
look into it but it wasn’t a simple thing to implement. Perhaps it’ll happen in 
the future.

HTH,
Slau


> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau, thanks for the prompt explanation.
> 1. Really? that's a great idea!!!But, we are talking more or less what  
> budget  to get the library and the controler? And, would I be able to use my 
> nki librarys anyway?Yet, is that Stand Alone stuff or can be used  within Pro 
>  Tools?
> 2. So, that means that with Elastic Audio it's only possible to modify clip 
> tempo's, not to quantize it?
>  
> Regards, Rui Vilarinho
>  
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Slau Halatyn 
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: List with tools to get to work within PT
>> 
>> Hi Rui,
>> 
>> Regarding instruments, you’ll find everything you’ll ever need in Native 
>> Instruments Komplete Kontrol Ultimate which Native Instruments made 
>> self-voicing when you use their Komplete Kontrol S-series controller 
>> keyboards.
>> 
>> I don’t quantize drums, per se but there are people using Beat Detective for 
>> that. Creating and editing Warp markers in Pro Tools isn’t currently 
>> accessible although you can use Elastic Audio to change clip tempos easily.
>> 
>> AutoTune is considerably more accessible than Melodyne.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rui Vilarinho >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys. what's your advice and recommendations concerning enlarging your 
>>> music Tools:
>>> For real nice Drums: Superior Drummer? perhaps also Addicted Drums? 
>>> for using several diferent music instruments: Kontakt5.5.2?
>>> To have more sound manipulation tools: Waves pack?
>>> For audio quantization: you guys prefer Elastic audio or Beat Detective?
>>> And, for Pitch modifications what do you use? Melodyne or Auto Tune?
>>> Well, on Windows side I know the ansers, but since this is a new and 
>>> diferent unknown field, that's the reason why I request your experience and 
>>> recommendations.
>>>  specially concerning accessibility point of view plus scriptability 
>>> possibility. I understood that some soft synths have the  request to 
>>> somebody with good vision to make Presets, and with it we will have the 
>>> chance to load some stuff is that correct?
>>> But, and what about the Makro something aplication? Do you guys suggest it 
>>> to script some Hotspots?
>>> Sorrythe the long post.
>>> Thanks in advance, Rui Vilarinho 
>>> 
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Re: Import audio dialogue

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Peter, please contact me off list and I’d like to try to duplicate the 
scenario precisely to see if I can duplicate the results.
Slau

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Peter Bosher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau,
>  
> I think this is a bug.  I showed it to one of the sighted Studio Managers and 
> he could duplicate the problem without VoiceOver running.  The solution seems 
> to be to import the file into the clips list first, and from then on, 
> importing as new track starts working.   I’ll soon find out whether this is 
> consistent, and at the same time I’ll check out your advice on dragging clips 
> on to the timeline, since that would be another way to crack it – just seems 
> more long-winded, but needs must perhaps?
>  
> Best,
>  
> Peter
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: 03 September 2016 16:30
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue
>  
> Hi Peter,
> Now that I’ve thought about it a little more, one thing comes to mind and it 
> may or may not be an issue. which version of Pro Tools are you using again? 
> There are some versions that are limited to 32 voices. If you have 16 stereo 
> tracks, that’ll add up to 32 voices. I’m not sure if it would necessarily 
> prevent you from importing but I’m grasping at straws here.
> slau
>  
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Peter Bosher  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Slau,
>  
> The example file I’m using is at a format which matches the session, so it 
> says it can be imported directly.   Also, I’ve tried it with a few more 
> sessions, and the method definitely works, in general, but for a set of 
> sessions which were created with PT10, and all have sixteen tracks and one 
> master, same formats and sample rates and so-on, it just isn’t working.
>  
> I might try deleting a few tracks from those sessions, but otherwise any 
> further thoughts very welcome.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Peter
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: 02 September 2016 19:09
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue
>  
> Hi Peter,
>  
> I’m thinking you might not have a preference or two set properly for 
> importing and converting to session format. I’m leaving the studio for lunch 
> and will be back in a little while. I’ll try to look for those preferences. 
> In the mean time, take a look at the Preferences window in the various tabs 
> to see where there might be some import preferences that’ll affect how files 
> are converted upon import.
> Slau
>  
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Peter Bosher  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Slau,
>  
> I tried the exact same procedure in a different session, which had only 3 
> tracks, and it worked perfectly, so is there anything that might explain why 
> it doesn’t work on this particular session, or any tweak I might try to get 
> it to work?
>  
> Best,
>  
> Peter
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: 02 September 2016 18:27
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue
>  
> Hi Peter,
>  
> OK, to be clear, and then pressing the Return key before hitting the Done 
> button, right? Selecting the file and pressing Done is not enough. If you’re 
> getting to the dialog that asks where to import then it stands to reason that 
> you’re doing the aforementioned correctly. Also, you’re sure that the track 
> radio button is definitely selected? I’ve never encountered any problem with 
> this functionality. Let me know.
> Slau
>  
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Peter Bosher  > wrote:
>  
> Thanks Slau,
>  
> I tried choosing session start, but it simply isn’t creating a new track.   
> While in the dialogue, the file plays when I choose ‘start preview’, and it 
> is listed in the table as being selected.   When I press OK, in the 
> destination dialogue, there is no error message; it just returns to the edit 
> window, but there is no new track.  This is in a session with 16 tracks plus 
> a master.  I’ve done this before quite a few times, and usually, the new 
> track shows up straight away in the track list table.  Any other ideas as to 
> what may be going wrong?
>  
> Best,
>  
> Peter
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: 02 September 2016 14:17
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> 

Re: Removing the Protools completely

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Ramy,

I might have used the Pro tools uninstaller perhaps once many years ago. I 
don’t have any advice but one thing that comes to mind is that you might want 
to empty the trash before trying to launch the newer installation of Pro Tools 
and, in case you had saved an icon in the Dock, I’d launch it from the Finder 
first and then update the Dock entry. Hope that helps,
Slau

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all my friends:
> I was using the pt 10 and 11, but after I got v12, I decided to remove
> the 2 previous versions.
> I went to all apps, and I found the protools and I hit command delete,
> but I can still open the v10 from a short cut that I created on my
> dock, so, how can I remove the v10 completely? I tried the uninstall
> and I choose save uninstall, and I press on uninstall button, but
> nothing removed.
> Can you clearify this please?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ramy MoustafaSaber
> Music instructor @:
> Faculty ofmusical education
> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
> Harmony Recording Studio
> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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Complete Ultimate

[Sean A. Cummins]

Hi,

Does anyone have, or know of who may have presets for any of the
Complete Ultimate components?  I checked Pro Tools with Speech, and
there are none to date.

Thanks!

Sean

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Re: List with tools to get to work within PT

[Rui Vilarinho]

Hi Slau, thanks for the prompt explanation.
1. Really? that's a great idea!!!But, we are talking more or less what  budget  
to get the library and the controler? And, would I be able to use my nki 
librarys anyway?Yet, is that Stand Alone stuff or can be used  within Pro  
Tools?
2. So, that means that with Elastic Audio it's only possible to modify clip 
tempo's, not to quantize it?

Regards, Rui Vilarinho



  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: List with tools to get to work within PT


  Hi Rui,


  Regarding instruments, you’ll find everything you’ll ever need in Native 
Instruments Komplete Kontrol Ultimate which Native Instruments made 
self-voicing when you use their Komplete Kontrol S-series controller keyboards.


  I don’t quantize drums, per se but there are people using Beat Detective for 
that. Creating and editing Warp markers in Pro Tools isn’t currently accessible 
although you can use Elastic Audio to change clip tempos easily.


  AutoTune is considerably more accessible than Melodyne.


  HTH,
  Slau


On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rui Vilarinho  
wrote:


Hi guys. what's your advice and recommendations concerning enlarging your 
music Tools:
For real nice Drums: Superior Drummer? perhaps also Addicted Drums? 
for using several diferent music instruments: Kontakt5.5.2?
To have more sound manipulation tools: Waves pack?
For audio quantization: you guys prefer Elastic audio or Beat Detective?
And, for Pitch modifications what do you use? Melodyne or Auto Tune?
Well, on Windows side I know the ansers, but since this is a new and 
diferent unknown field, that's the reason why I request your experience and 
recommendations.
 specially concerning accessibility point of view plus scriptability 
possibility. I understood that some soft synths have the  request to somebody 
with good vision to make Presets, and with it we will have the chance to load 
some stuff is that correct?
But, and what about the Makro something aplication? Do you guys suggest it 
to script some Hotspots?
Sorrythe the long post.
Thanks in advance, Rui Vilarinho 


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Re: Altiverb

[Slau Halatyn]

I can’t say “fully” because I haven’t used every aspect of the plug-in. For me, 
I can say fully but someone else might say that if they can’t perform a 
particular task, it’s not fully accessible. It’s quite accessible.
Slau

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Niklas Karlsson  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau,
> 
> Really interesting information!
> 
> Would you say Altiverb is fully accessible with VO or are there any 
> parameters/buttons that doesn't read?
> 
> All the best,
> Niklas
> 
> Skickat från min iPhone
> 
>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 01:24 skrev Slau Halatyn :
>> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> Sorry for the lengthy delay. So, in my opinion, Space isn’t loaded with too 
>> many options. It does have a number of parameters (around 45 or so) that can 
>> be tweaked and it appears as though there might even be some potential for 
>> loading impulses although I’m not sure whether it’s possible to do it 
>> without assistance. More importantly, Space offers very little in the way of 
>> presets. There are 7 folders with only a couple of presets, sometimes only 
>> one per category.
>> Altiverb shows about double the number of parameters and, more importantly, 
>> it has at least double the number of categories with presets in each 
>> category that number anywhere from ten to over 25. So, to me, AltiVerb 
>> offers quicker access to a larger number of starting points. Apart from 
>> that, it’s regarded as one of the best reverbs on the market. To be honest, 
>> I’m not really into reverbs all that much. I tend to mix pretty dry and, if 
>> I’m using reverb, it’s minimal. That said, Altiverb really sounds great when 
>> it’s cranked up. I just did an album for a well-known lutenist and we used 
>> Altiverb as the main reverb and put it up against not only other reverbs but 
>> also other recordings that were done in churches and monasteries and 
>> Altiverb held its own with ease, not to mention no LF rumble.
>> My two cents,
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Slau!
>>> 
>>> Could you explain the better bit of Altiverb in comparison to space.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best! / Martin
>>> 
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RE: Import audio dialogue

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,

I think this is a bug.  I showed it to one of the sighted Studio Managers and 
he could duplicate the problem without VoiceOver running.  The solution seems 
to be to import the file into the clips list first, and from then on, importing 
as new track starts working.   I’ll soon find out whether this is consistent, 
and at the same time I’ll check out your advice on dragging clips on to the 
timeline, since that would be another way to crack it – just seems more 
long-winded, but needs must perhaps?

Best,

Peter


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 03 September 2016 16:30
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,
Now that I’ve thought about it a little more, one thing comes to mind and it 
may or may not be an issue. which version of Pro Tools are you using again? 
There are some versions that are limited to 32 voices. If you have 16 stereo 
tracks, that’ll add up to 32 voices. I’m not sure if it would necessarily 
prevent you from importing but I’m grasping at straws here.
slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Peter Bosher 
> wrote:

Hi Slau,

The example file I’m using is at a format which matches the session, so it says 
it can be imported directly.   Also, I’ve tried it with a few more sessions, 
and the method definitely works, in general, but for a set of sessions which 
were created with PT10, and all have sixteen tracks and one master, same 
formats and sample rates and so-on, it just isn’t working.

I might try deleting a few tracks from those sessions, but otherwise any 
further thoughts very welcome.

Best,

Peter

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 19:09
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

I’m thinking you might not have a preference or two set properly for importing 
and converting to session format. I’m leaving the studio for lunch and will be 
back in a little while. I’ll try to look for those preferences. In the mean 
time, take a look at the Preferences window in the various tabs to see where 
there might be some import preferences that’ll affect how files are converted 
upon import.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Peter Bosher 
> wrote:

Hi Slau,

I tried the exact same procedure in a different session, which had only 3 
tracks, and it worked perfectly, so is there anything that might explain why it 
doesn’t work on this particular session, or any tweak I might try to get it to 
work?

Best,

Peter


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 18:27
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

OK, to be clear, and then pressing the Return key before hitting the Done 
button, right? Selecting the file and pressing Done is not enough. If you’re 
getting to the dialog that asks where to import then it stands to reason that 
you’re doing the aforementioned correctly. Also, you’re sure that the track 
radio button is definitely selected? I’ve never encountered any problem with 
this functionality. Let me know.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Peter Bosher 
> wrote:

Thanks Slau,

I tried choosing session start, but it simply isn’t creating a new track.   
While in the dialogue, the file plays when I choose ‘start preview’, and it is 
listed in the table as being selected.   When I press OK, in the destination 
dialogue, there is no error message; it just returns to the edit window, but 
there is no new track.  This is in a session with 16 tracks plus a master.  
I’ve done this before quite a few times, and usually, the new track shows up 
straight away in the track list table.  Any other ideas as to what may be going 
wrong?

Best,

Peter




From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 14:17
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

To get a detailed explanation of how the Import Audio dialog works, it’s best 
to read that section of the Pro Tools reference Guide. It explains everything 
pretty clearly. For now, however, what you’re doing is exactly right. If the 
Track radio button is selected, you should see a new track appear in the 
session. If you have selection chosen in the pop-up, I believe the clip should 
appear at the point shown in the Start field of the Edit window. Did you try 
tabbing in that track? By default, after importing, I’d imagine the clip would 
be selected in the 

Re: List with tools to get to work within PT

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Rui,

Regarding instruments, you’ll find everything you’ll ever need in Native 
Instruments Komplete Kontrol Ultimate which Native Instruments made 
self-voicing when you use their Komplete Kontrol S-series controller keyboards.

I don’t quantize drums, per se but there are people using Beat Detective for 
that. Creating and editing Warp markers in Pro Tools isn’t currently accessible 
although you can use Elastic Audio to change clip tempos easily.

AutoTune is considerably more accessible than Melodyne.

HTH,
Slau

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Rui Vilarinho  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys. what's your advice and recommendations concerning enlarging your 
> music Tools:
> For real nice Drums: Superior Drummer? perhaps also Addicted Drums? 
> for using several diferent music instruments: Kontakt5.5.2?
> To have more sound manipulation tools: Waves pack?
> For audio quantization: you guys prefer Elastic audio or Beat Detective?
> And, for Pitch modifications what do you use? Melodyne or Auto Tune?
> Well, on Windows side I know the ansers, but since this is a new and diferent 
> unknown field, that's the reason why I request your experience and 
> recommendations.
>  specially concerning accessibility point of view plus scriptability 
> possibility. I understood that some soft synths have the  request to somebody 
> with good vision to make Presets, and with it we will have the chance to load 
> some stuff is that correct?
> But, and what about the Makro something aplication? Do you guys suggest it to 
> script some Hotspots?
> Sorrythe the long post.
> Thanks in advance, Rui Vilarinho 
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Removing the Protools completely

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello all my friends:
I was using the pt 10 and 11, but after I got v12, I decided to remove
the 2 previous versions.
I went to all apps, and I found the protools and I hit command delete,
but I can still open the v10 from a short cut that I created on my
dock, so, how can I remove the v10 completely? I tried the uninstall
and I choose save uninstall, and I press on uninstall button, but
nothing removed.
Can you clearify this please?
Thanks


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Faculty ofmusical education
Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
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Re: Altiverb

[Niklas Karlsson]

Hi Slau,

Really interesting information!

Would you say Altiverb is fully accessible with VO or are there any 
parameters/buttons that doesn't read?

All the best,
Niklas

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> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 01:24 skrev Slau Halatyn :
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Sorry for the lengthy delay. So, in my opinion, Space isn’t loaded with too 
> many options. It does have a number of parameters (around 45 or so) that can 
> be tweaked and it appears as though there might even be some potential for 
> loading impulses although I’m not sure whether it’s possible to do it without 
> assistance. More importantly, Space offers very little in the way of presets. 
> There are 7 folders with only a couple of presets, sometimes only one per 
> category.
> Altiverb shows about double the number of parameters and, more importantly, 
> it has at least double the number of categories with presets in each category 
> that number anywhere from ten to over 25. So, to me, AltiVerb offers quicker 
> access to a larger number of starting points. Apart from that, it’s regarded 
> as one of the best reverbs on the market. To be honest, I’m not really into 
> reverbs all that much. I tend to mix pretty dry and, if I’m using reverb, 
> it’s minimal. That said, Altiverb really sounds great when it’s cranked up. I 
> just did an album for a well-known lutenist and we used Altiverb as the main 
> reverb and put it up against not only other reverbs but also other recordings 
> that were done in churches and monasteries and Altiverb held its own with 
> ease, not to mention no LF rumble.
> My two cents,
> Slau
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Slau!
>> 
>> Could you explain the better bit of Altiverb in comparison to space.
>> 
>> Thanks and best! / Martin
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