Re: OT: understanding hot spot behavior in Voiceover?
Hi Krister, That's correct, VoiceOver hot spot can only focus on an element which reveals itself to VoiceOver. There's an application called Keyboard Maestro that will perform macros including mouse clicks under the mouse pointer or coordinates on the screen relative to either the screen or relative to the window. It's a comprehensive application and I haven't delved into it really but it appears to be quite powerful. Slau On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: And here's another interesting thing, and i could be wrong here so please correct me if i am: You can't point the mouse to somewhere and place a hot spot there, the hot spot will land on the closest voiceover element. Let me give an example: In an audio editor i recently purchased i wanted to mark an area where if i took the physical mouse and dragged there, scrubbing would take place. Now this area wasn't visible as anything, button, text or such but i could mark the position as a hot spot, but since the nearest voiceover recognizable element was a tool bar item, that's where the hot spot landed, so i couldn't actually place the hot spot where i wanted it. That was possible in the very early screen reader Outspoken for Os 6 up to os 9. /Krister 4 aug 2014 kl. 02:04 skrev DebtFree Rocks debtfreero...@gmail.com: Hi, Chris, Thanks for the clarification. Wow, that is a serious deisgn flaw... Yikes! DF From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:20 PM To: Pro Tools Access Subject: Re: OT: understanding hot spot behavior in Voiceover? Hi, No, they do not last over application runs, you have to keep re-adding them. HTH, On 3 Aug 2014, at 18:28, DebtFree Rocks debtfreero...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, everyone, I'm trying to better understand hot spots in Voiceover. If I set some up in a PT session, do I have to do it again if I open a new session or are they application specific? I think the answer is that they're application specific. I assume they're also profile specific and that they're retained even when one closes the app or reboots the machine? Thanks for the clarification!! DebtFree -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: OT: understanding hot spot behavior in Voiceover?
Hi Krister, As I recall, I purchased it from: Keyboard Maestro 6.4.5: Work Faster with Macros for Mac ... It's not currently available in the App Store and I don't remember what it costs but it appears to be accessible. Best, Slau On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hmmm, i think i actually might have a license for it somewhere. Have to dig it out to see if one can do interesting things with it. Do you by any chance happen to know where one might get the app? /Krister 4 aug 2014 kl. 18:22 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, That's correct, VoiceOver hot spot can only focus on an element which reveals itself to VoiceOver. There's an application called Keyboard Maestro that will perform macros including mouse clicks under the mouse pointer or coordinates on the screen relative to either the screen or relative to the window. It's a comprehensive application and I haven't delved into it really but it appears to be quite powerful. Slau On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: And here's another interesting thing, and i could be wrong here so please correct me if i am: You can't point the mouse to somewhere and place a hot spot there, the hot spot will land on the closest voiceover element. Let me give an example: In an audio editor i recently purchased i wanted to mark an area where if i took the physical mouse and dragged there, scrubbing would take place. Now this area wasn't visible as anything, button, text or such but i could mark the position as a hot spot, but since the nearest voiceover recognizable element was a tool bar item, that's where the hot spot landed, so i couldn't actually place the hot spot where i wanted it. That was possible in the very early screen reader Outspoken for Os 6 up to os 9. /Krister 4 aug 2014 kl. 02:04 skrev DebtFree Rocks debtfreero...@gmail.com: Hi, Chris, Thanks for the clarification. Wow, that is a serious deisgn flaw... Yikes! DF From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Norman Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:20 PM To: Pro Tools Access Subject: Re: OT: understanding hot spot behavior in Voiceover? Hi, No, they do not last over application runs, you have to keep re-adding them. HTH, On 3 Aug 2014, at 18:28, DebtFree Rocks debtfreero...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, everyone, I'm trying to better understand hot spots in Voiceover. If I set some up in a PT session, do I have to do it again if I open a new session or are they application specific? I think the answer is that they're application specific. I assume they're also profile specific and that they're retained even when one closes the app or reboots the machine? Thanks for the clarification!! DebtFree -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d
Re: OT: understanding hot spot behavior in Voiceover?
Hi, No, they do not last over application runs, you have to keep re-adding them. HTH, On 3 Aug 2014, at 18:28, DebtFree Rocks debtfreero...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, everyone, I'm trying to better understand hot spots in Voiceover. If I set some up in a PT session, do I have to do it again if I open a new session or are they application specific? I think the answer is that they're application specific. I assume they're also profile specific and that they're retained even when one closes the app or reboots the machine? Thanks for the clarification!! DebtFree -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
