RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

2010-08-29 Thread Bryan Smart
Those PCI and PCIE interfaces are only for Pro Tools HD. They obviously only 
run on a Mac Pro, though it is possible to run them on some specific models of 
older Macbooks along with some external enclosures.

The USB and Firewire interfaces work with both Pro Tools MPowered and LE, but 
different ones work with each. M-Audio interfaces work with MPowered. The 
various Avid/Digi USB/Firewire interfaces work with LE.

You can run MPowered or LE on a MacBook, IMac, or Mac Pro. However, when you 
run them on a MacBook, you give up a lot of performance in exchange for the 
portability. When you run them on an iMac, you save a lot of money over the Mac 
Pro, but there are lots of restrictions on what gear you can use together.

Some of those restrictions are changing, though. The newest 27 inch iMac comes 
with two hard drives: a solid state drive and a mechanical drive. You can 
install the OS and Pro Tools on the solid state disk for performance, and use 
the mechanical drive as your data/audio drive. That still leaves both the 
Firewire and USB ports free for an interface. You could, for example, attach a 
ProjectMix I/O audio interface/control surface and run MPowered, or attach a 
003 audio interface/control surface and run LE.

Bryan

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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RvR
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:07 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

Hi Frank,
You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered pro 
tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio. Do those not work with 
the m-powered version of pro tools? One of the main reasons to buy a Mac Pro is 
the use of pci cards.
I only need an audio interface for the moment.
Although the choice for a Mac Pro may be obvious for real power users, but I 
ain't that just yet.
Both the iMac and Mac Pro have their pros and cons. 
Regards,
Ronald
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank 
Carmickle
Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 22:28
Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

Hi

On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote:

 Hello,
 Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use 
 with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making 
 decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause 
 you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed 
 some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision.
 
 First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to 
 function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also?
 
I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes 
you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on.

 Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the 
 obvious way. Or is firewire also an option?

For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the 
supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb.  

 In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you 
 recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution.
 
Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that 
was.  Do you want something with a built in control surface?  If so the
003 is probably a good fit.

 I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core 
 xeon 2.8.

Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list.  I lean towards 
the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it.  Also you can 
easily upgrade the memory and hard drives.  You can also put four hd's in the 
pro.

 Maybe I will have some more questions later on.

I don't mind answering questions.  This stuff seems to come up a lot on the 
list.  Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices?

Hope that helps
--FC




RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

2010-08-27 Thread RvR
Hi Frank,
You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered
pro tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio. Do those not work
with the m-powered version of pro tools? One of the main reasons to buy a
Mac Pro is the use of pci cards.
I only need an audio interface for the moment.
Although the choice for a Mac Pro may be obvious for real power users, but I
ain't that just yet.
Both the iMac and Mac Pro have their pros and cons. 
Regards,
Ronald
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens
Frank Carmickle
Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 22:28
Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

Hi

On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote:

 Hello,
 Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use 
 with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making 
 decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause 
 you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed 
 some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision.
 
 First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to 
 function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also?
 
I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that
yes you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on.

 Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the 
 obvious way. Or is firewire also an option?

For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the
supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb.  

 In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you 
 recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution.
 
Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what
that was.  Do you want something with a built in control surface?  If so the
003 is probably a good fit.

 I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core 
 xeon 2.8.

Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list.  I lean towards
the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it.  Also you
can easily upgrade the memory and hard drives.  You can also put four hd's
in the pro.

 Maybe I will have some more questions later on.

I don't mind answering questions.  This stuff seems to come up a lot on the
list.  Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices?

Hope that helps
--FC




Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

2010-08-26 Thread Frank Carmickle
Hi

On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote:

 Hello,
 Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro
 Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last
 couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am
 going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which
 hopefully can help me make my decision.
 
 First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to
 function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also?
 
I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes 
you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on.

 Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the
 obvious way. Or is firewire also an option?

For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the 
supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb.  

 In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you
 recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution.
 
Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that 
was.  Do you want something with a built in control surface?  If so the 003 is 
probably a good fit.

 I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon
 2.8.

Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list.  I lean towards 
the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it.  Also you can 
easily upgrade the memory and hard drives.  You can also put four hd's in the 
pro.

 Maybe I will have some more questions later on.

I don't mind answering questions.  This stuff seems to come up a lot on the 
list.  Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices?

Hope that helps
--FC



Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro

2010-08-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
A Mac book pro does not need a monitor to work with Voice OVer at all.  Just 
thought I'd let you know.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

E-Mail:
rforetjr at comcast dot net
Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote:

Hi

On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote:

 Hello,
 Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro
 Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last
 couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am
 going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which
 hopefully can help me make my decision.
 
 First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to
 function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also?
 
I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes 
you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on.

 Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the
 obvious way. Or is firewire also an option?

For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the 
supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb.  

 In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you
 recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution.
 
Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that 
was.  Do you want something with a built in control surface?  If so the 003 is 
probably a good fit.

 I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon
 2.8.

Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list.  I lean towards 
the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it.  Also you can 
easily upgrade the memory and hard drives.  You can also put four hd's in the 
pro.

 Maybe I will have some more questions later on.

I don't mind answering questions.  This stuff seems to come up a lot on the 
list.  Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices?

Hope that helps
--FC