Re: first thoughts.
Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
Re: first thoughts.
This is where the control surface is a big help. If I could get my project mix talking to pt correctly, I will be ok. It is acting as an audio interface, but the sliders and buttons are not doing anything. I am half way there. GF On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
Re: first thoughts.
Thanks for the info, Slau. Scott, I can think of a number of reasons why this suggestion won't work, but what happens if you label them with the label feature in VO? Track 1, record enabled - Track 2 record enabled etc. Would each track always get the correct button label when you create a new project and add new tracks? Just a somewhat extreme thought. Labeling newly labeled buttons seems like overkill, I was just wondering if it might be a work around for your question. Cheers, John André On 8. juli 2010, at 14.24, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
Re: first thoughts.
Use the item chooser to find the track name, then, at least, you're on the right strip. Bryan On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
Re: first thoughts.
Hey scott, Well, much like what we had under OS 9, individual buttons are not labelled by track as they are generic controls and can be created on the fly. As Bryan mentioned, it is certainly possible to navigate to the channel strip itself, interact and, if inserts and sends are hidden, especially, it's like one or two keystrokes and you're on the record button. Otherwise, as you mentioned, it's usually a wise choice to limit what's being shown in the mixer in order to keep things simple. Also, as Clarence mentioned, a control surface expedites things an enormous amount, as we all know. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
RE: first thoughts.
I've been having lots of luck with QuicKeys. After trying it and Keyboard Maestro , I think that sticking with QuicKeys is the best choice. We can directly interact with the UI, can control VoiceOver and other apps through Applescript, and can program complex mouse actions (like click at a point, click and drag, and even full mouse recording). QK also has support for writing your own functions to save as part of your shortcuts, supports variables and decision making, and the shortcuts can be easily installed on peoples' computers without any complicated instructions. All of those aren't available with Keyboard Maestro. As part of my experiments, I've started a collection of general functions and other tools that will help with VoiceOver scripts down the road. To test these, I've been building up a set of shortcuts for other, simple, applications, like Skype, iTunes, etc. I'll release these to Mac Visionaries for testing in about a week or so. After feedback on that pans out well, and we've run down all of the bugs with the installer, I will start putting a framework in place for us to create and contribute shortcuts for Pro Tools. These won't quite be like real screen reader scripts, like CakeTalking or JSonar, but they should help speed up working in Pro Tools. I can easily make modifications like having certain area of the screen read automatically, or creating shortcut keys that can jump you directly to an area of the screen. The hot spot support will also help with some of the inaccessible plugs. Anyway, the way QK works, it isn't possible to protect the scripts, so it isn't possible to sell them. Because of that, I can't pour many many hours in to this project. I can et it up, though, so that we can all contribute shortcuts here and there, and combine them in to a set that can be generally shared. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. Hey scott, Well, much like what we had under OS 9, individual buttons are not labelled by track as they are generic controls and can be created on the fly. As Bryan mentioned, it is certainly possible to navigate to the channel strip itself, interact and, if inserts and sends are hidden, especially, it's like one or two keystrokes and you're on the record button. Otherwise, as you mentioned, it's usually a wise choice to limit what's being shown in the mixer in order to keep things simple. Also, as Clarence mentioned, a control surface expedites things an enormous amount, as we all know. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com
Re: first thoughts.
I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
Re: first thoughts.
I thought command space was for the spot light thing? I guess I am going to have to turn that off? GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi clarence, To record interact with the track and navigate down till you see the track record enable button VO space bar on it and AT this point it will flash armed now just hit command space bar that will start recording.. Talk soon On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:22 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
RE: first thoughts.
It did for me, but I haven't installed the final version yet. You might be right. I'm just giving you a hard time, anyway. *smile* Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:07 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. The installer didn't mention anything, I will look them up though. If it did, I may have over looked them., witch is more than likely the case. I tried to read everything. I will work it all out though, some how. lol GF On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: yep. You also must turn off the other shortcuts that were mentioned by the installer. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:56 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. I thought command space was for the spot light thing? I guess I am going to have to turn that off? GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi clarence, To record interact with the track and navigate down till you see the track record enable button VO space bar on it and AT this point it will flash armed now just hit command space bar that will start recording.. Talk soon On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:22 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
