RE: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-11 Thread Andre Jarreau
Learning the Mac and will change right away.  Thanks for this major pointer!
Andre

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Roy
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Subject: Re: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and 
VoiceOver keys

made the switch here as well; indeed much more comfortable.
thanks a bunch
Roy.

-Original Message-
From: Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:04 AM
To: PTAccess List
Subject: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver 
keys

Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who 
use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro Tools 
that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per se, as 
there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a number of 
keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that will add to 
the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key commands but the 
nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might want to repeatedly use 
these shortcuts and passing through would be an exercise in inefficiency.

It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the 
VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done so. 
I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both and 
some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make the 
jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing that the 
upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have made the 
change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative because 
you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.

There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the 
qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first 
but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first day 
was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it became easy 
and, at this point, I'd never go back.

I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up to 
those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before the 
new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on.
slau

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RE: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-11 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart
Hi Slau and others!

I tryed CapsLock in ElCapitan and Sierra times and realized that it was not 
that stable as Control+Option.
Especially when having to use the Shift key a lot of times CapsLock became 
unreliable and VoiceOver restarts have been necessary.
Due to the German language the Shift key is used more often than in other 
languages.
So I hope that everything became a bit better with HighSierra now.

Thanks and best! / Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:04 AM
> To: PTAccess List <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and
> VoiceOver keys
> 
> Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who
> use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro
> Tools that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per
> se, as there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a
> number of keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that
> will add to the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key commands
> but the nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might want to
> repeatedly use these shortcuts and passing through would be an exercise in
> inefficiency.
> 
> It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the
> VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done
> so. I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both
> and some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make
> the jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing that
> the upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have made
> the change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative
> because you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.
> 
> There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the
> qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first
> but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first day
> was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it became
> easy and, at this point, I'd never go back.
> 
> I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up to
> those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before
> the new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on.
> slau
> 
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Re: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-10 Thread Roy

made the switch here as well; indeed much more comfortable.
thanks a bunch
Roy.

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:04 AM
To: PTAccess List
Subject: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver 
keys


Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who 
use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro 
Tools that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per 
se, as there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a 
number of keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that 
will add to the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key 
commands but the nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might 
want to repeatedly use these shortcuts and passing through would be an 
exercise in inefficiency.


It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the 
VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done 
so. I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both 
and some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make 
the jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing 
that the upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have 
made the change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative 
because you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.


There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the 
qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first 
but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first 
day was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it 
became easy and, at this point, I'd never go back.


I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up 
to those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before 
the new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on.

slau

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Re: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-10 Thread Ricky Prevatte
Glad I got started with that. Thank you for the heads up.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

> On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> OK, thank you for letting us know.
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> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>  
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
> - Original Message -
> From: Slau Halatyn
> To: PTAccess List
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:04 PM
> Subject: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver 
> keys
> 
> Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who 
> use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro Tools 
> that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per se, as 
> there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a number of 
> keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that will add to 
> the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key commands but the 
> nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might want to repeatedly 
> use these shortcuts and passing through would be an exercise in inefficiency.
> 
> It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the 
> VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done 
> so. I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both 
> and some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make 
> the jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing 
> that the upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have 
> made the change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative 
> because you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.
> 
> There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the 
> qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first 
> but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first day 
> was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it became 
> easy and, at this point, I'd never go back.
> 
> I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up to 
> those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before the 
> new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on. 
> slau
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Re: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, thank you for letting us know.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: PTAccess List 
  Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:04 PM
  Subject: important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver 
keys


  Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who 
use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro Tools 
that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per se, as 
there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a number of 
keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that will add to 
the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key commands but the 
nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might want to repeatedly use 
these shortcuts and passing through would be an exercise in inefficiency.

  It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the 
VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done so. 
I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both and 
some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make the 
jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing that the 
upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have made the 
change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative because 
you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.

  There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the 
qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first 
but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first day 
was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it became easy 
and, at this point, I'd never go back.

  I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up to 
those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before the 
new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on. 
  slau

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important message regarding future Pro Tools features and VoiceOver keys

2017-12-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Consider this a bit of a public service announcement for VoiceOver users who 
use Pro Tools. There have always been several keyboard shortcuts in Pro Tools 
that have conflicted with VoiceOver. They haven't been problems, per se, as 
there were only a couple. Without getting into details, there are a number of 
keyboard shortcuts coming up in future versions of Pro Tools that will add to 
the conflicts. Yes, it's possible to pass through the key commands but the 
nature of the upcoming shortcuts is such that one might want to repeatedly use 
these shortcuts and passing through would be an exercise in inefficiency.

It is for this reason especially that I'd highly recommend switching the 
VoiceOver keys from Control+Option to CapsLock if you haven't already done so. 
I know that quite a number of users have their settings set to use both and 
some have made the full transition. I made it a point this year to make the 
jump and I'm glad I did. I made the initial transition before knowing that the 
upcoming Pro Tools shortcuts would conflict so I'm happy to have made the 
change early on. I'd encourage users to get used to the alternative because 
you'll be glad you made the switch when the time comes.

There is the one aspect of the modifier only being on the left side of the 
qwerty keyboard that makes left side combinations somewhat trickier at first 
but you really do get used to it quickly. When I switched over, the first day 
was difficult and the second day was much easier. Within 3 days it became easy 
and, at this point, I'd never go back.

I know a bunch of you have already done this so I'm just giving a heads up to 
those who haven't yet made the adjustment. Getting used to it now, before the 
new shortcuts are implemented, will make it easier later on. 
slau

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