Re: midi quantize
Hi, I should have mentioned that I do have a mac and microsoft has accessibility guide lines that if followed would make the software usable with all screen readers. http://www.microsoft.com/enable has the information for windows. I like my mac book pro just thought I would bring up the point not trying to say what is better as both platforms are great. I do however think that avid on the mac does need to be made aware of issues of accessibility so they can look into fixing them. The one drawback I can see with midi work is if you want to turn your midi work into an audio CD you need to make sure you use a good quality midi device then record it into audio format. Sure midi is great for just musical work when you know what playback system you will be playing it on. Is it best with a midi keyboard to just connect it to the computer threw USB or to buy an interface with midi cables usually the round connectors? I have a keyboard not sure exactly what model but it has both types and was wondering what method I should use for the best performance for both playback and recording of midi. Happy new year! Nick Gawronski On 12/31/2011 8:22 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Platform is a dead issue. They've pretty much ruled out any effort on Windows. Windows accessibility is too difficult. On the Mac, for a software developer, making their program accessible largely means that all of their user interface controls should support communication with the Mac accessibility API. They really don't need to know much about how screen readers work. On Windows, accessibility largely means to be compatible with one or more screen readers. Which ones should be supported? Who will train the programmers how to use them, so that they can test the compatibility with them? It's a complex situation, and Avid doesn't seem to be ready to throw that many resources at fixing accessibility issues. Anyway, if you really need Pro Tools, what's the cost of a Mac? If you're broke, or if this is just a hobby for you, there are several programs on windows that are simpler to use and cost less, even though they might lack some features of Pro Tools. They'll still record y our home demos. Bryan On Dec 26, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Has anyone here written avid on these inaccessibility issues as if they are not aware of them the chances of getting them resolved quickley or in the next release is slim? Pro tools could be as usable to us as it is for the sited and yes for audio work only it looks like it is usable but we should be able to be able to use every single feature of this great program regardless of what platform we choose to use it on. Has anyone ever used avid support and training services before and if so how good are they? Nick Gawronski On 12/25/2011 9:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Platform is a dead issue. They've pretty much ruled out any effort on Windows. Windows accessibility is too difficult. On the Mac, for a software developer, making their program accessible largely means that all of their user interface controls should support communication with the Mac accessibility API. They really don't need to know much about how screen readers work. On Windows, accessibility largely means to be compatible with one or more screen readers. Which ones should be supported? Who will train the programmers how to use them, so that they can test the compatibility with them? It's a complex situation, and Avid doesn't seem to be ready to throw that many resources at fixing accessibility issues. Anyway, if you really need Pro Tools, what's the cost of a Mac? If you're broke, or if this is just a hobby for you, there are several programs on windows that are simpler to use and cost less, even though they might lack some features of Pro Tools. They'll still record your home demos. Bryan On Dec 26, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Has anyone here written avid on these inaccessibility issues as if they are not aware of them the chances of getting them resolved quickley or in the next release is slim? Pro tools could be as usable to us as it is for the sited and yes for audio work only it looks like it is usable but we should be able to be able to use every single feature of this great program regardless of what platform we choose to use it on. Has anyone ever used avid support and training services before and if so how good are they? Nick Gawronski On 12/25/2011 9:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Hi, While we're on the subject of MIDI quantizing; has anyone seen that launching the Quantize window is somewhat a hit and miss, since it sometimes appear, and sometimes only show you the Event Operation header? In my case, I sometimes have to press option-zero several times before the Quantize window contains more than the heading. I've also seen this for the main Event Operation window. Not sure why this is happening, though. On the other hand, I only get this header in the Input Quantize, which I expect to be the current state of that window. HOwever, I hope to find a work around for turning Input Quantize on/off, or simply save a template with this setting on for those projects where I want it set to on all the time. Not a perfect solution, but I think it will work, since such settings probably are bound to the project. Any other ideas are appreciated! :) Thanks, John André *** John André Netland - Voice/SMS/MMS (+47) 971 68 794 Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no *** On 27. des. 2011, at 19:38, Gordon Kent wrote: Thanks a lot. I’ll give this a try. I really like to be able to apply subtle swing to quantized tracks, especially when working on rb or new orleans stuff, which really makes them much more authentic. I have noticed, however, that the mouse cursor doesn’t always want to go to where the VO cursor is. This seems to occur much more now with Lion for some reason. Gord From: CHUCK REICHEL Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 1:41 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Hi Gord, In regards to the MIDI Quantize Questions. Before I stopped exploring the quantize window I found a work around if I remember correctly. If you VO shift click on the field and enter what you want you can't see the change but its there! YMMV Also There some options when saving the settings that become Visible by voiceOver when using the save quantize with file option. BTW after saving them they appear in the pull down for quantize window. What i did was to name the saved file with the quantize strength in the name and just pick that one out of the popup presets pulldown. Before any body gets their Christmas stocking out of alinement this is to the best of my recollection at this time, but there are some work arounds! My avid contacts say to Keep raising the VoiceOver awareness issues Of course we all should do this in an professional manor Just like any other big company they need to know what is going on in the real world! PS this Statement is directly from them not my self!!! Merry Christmas all! :) CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/low/index.htm In GOD I Trust On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Thanks a lot. I’ll give this a try. I really like to be able to apply subtle swing to quantized tracks, especially when working on rb or new orleans stuff, which really makes them much more authentic. I have noticed, however, that the mouse cursor doesn’t always want to go to where the VO cursor is. This seems to occur much more now with Lion for some reason. Gord From: CHUCK REICHEL Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 1:41 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Hi Gord, In regards to the MIDI Quantize Questions. Before I stopped exploring the quantize window I found a work around if I remember correctly. If you VO shift click on the field and enter what you want you can't see the change but its there! YMMV Also There some options when saving the settings that become Visible by voiceOver when using the save quantize with file option. BTW after saving them they appear in the pull down for quantize window. What i did was to name the saved file with the quantize strength in the name and just pick that one out of the popup presets pulldown. Before any body gets their Christmas stocking out of alinement this is to the best of my recollection at this time, but there are some work arounds! My avid contacts say to Keep raising the VoiceOver awareness issues Of course we all should do this in an professional manor Just like any other big company they need to know what is going on in the real world! PS this Statement is directly from them not my self!!! Merry Christmas all! :) CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/low/index.htm In GOD I Trust On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Hi Gord, In regards to the MIDI Quantize Questions. Before I stopped exploring the quantize window I found a work around if I remember correctly. If you VO shift click on the field and enter what you want you can't see the change but its there! YMMV Also There some options when saving the settings that become Visible by voiceOver when using the save quantize with file option. BTW after saving them they appear in the pull down for quantize window. What i did was to name the saved file with the quantize strength in the name and just pick that one out of the popup presets pulldown. Before any body gets their Christmas stocking out of alinement this is to the best of my recollection at this time, but there are some work arounds! My avid contacts say to Keep raising the VoiceOver awareness issues Of course we all should do this in an professional manor Just like any other big company they need to know what is going on in the real world! PS this Statement is directly from them not my self!!! Merry Christmas all! :) CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/low/index.htm In GOD I Trust On Dec 25, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Hi, Has anyone here written avid on these inaccessibility issues as if they are not aware of them the chances of getting them resolved quickley or in the next release is slim? Pro tools could be as usable to us as it is for the sited and yes for audio work only it looks like it is usable but we should be able to be able to use every single feature of this great program regardless of what platform we choose to use it on. Has anyone ever used avid support and training services before and if so how good are they? Nick Gawronski On 12/25/2011 9:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Would be something of a paradigm shift if logic became accessible inside out. I could finally justify getting the logic certification and start some serious editing with all my gadgets. All i've been doing is increasing my instrumental skills and mixing quality. Best regards, Yuma On 26/12/2011, at 4:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
midi quantize
Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
