Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Patrick Tronnier via Public]

OATI votes Yes

Thanks

With kind regards,

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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:35 AM
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Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership.

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.

Explanation of Ballot:

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

---Ballot Begins ---

Kirk Hall's term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson's term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018.

---Ballot Ends ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


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[cabfpub] REVISED Results on Ballot SC6 – Revocation Timeline Extension

[Kirk Hall via Public]

I failed to include Trustwave among the CAs voting Yes on this ballot – 
Trustwave has now been added below, and on the ballot results spreadsheet on 
the wiki.

[Explanation: We use a spreadsheet template to tally ballot votes, and the 
template then creates a field with the names of all CAs voting yes, voting no, 
etc.  For some reason, the template “broke” for Ballot SC6, and created a list 
of CAs who voted yes that was incorrect, which I copied into the Ballot SC6 
Results email I sent out yesterday.  I have corrected the names of the CAs who 
voted yes in these REVISED Results.]

REVISED Results on Ballot SC6 – Revocation Timeline Extension

The voting period for Ballot SC6 has ended and the ballot has passed.  Here are 
the results.

Voting by CAs – 24 votes total including abstentions

24 Yes votes: Actalis, Amazon, Buypass, Camerfirma, CFCA, Chunghwa Telecom, 
D-TRUST, DigiCert, Digidentity, Disig, Entrust Datacard, GDCA, GlobalSign, 
GoDaddy, HARICA, Izenpe, Kamu Sertifikasyon Merkezi, QuoVadis, SSL.com, SSC, 
TWCA, TrustCor, Trustwave, Visa
0 No votes:
0 Abstain:
100% of voting CAs voted in favor

Voting by browsers – 5 votes total including abstentions

5 Yes votes: Cisco, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, 360
0 No votes:
0 Abstain:
100% of voting browsers voted in favor

Under Bylaw 2.2(g), a ballot result will be considered valid only when more 
than half of the number of currently active Members has participated. Votes to 
abstain are counted in determining a quorum.  Half of currently active Members 
as of the start of voting is 11, so quorum was 12 votes – quorum was met.

Bylaw 2.2(f) requires a yes vote by two-thirds of CA votes and 50%-plus-one 
browser votes for approval.  Votes to abstain are not counted for this purpose. 
 This requirement was met for both CAs and browsers.

At least one CA Member and one browser Member must vote in favor of a ballot 
for the ballot to be adopted.  This requirement was met

The ballot passes.


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Re: [cabfpub] FW: Notice of Review Period - Ballot SC6 (Part 2)

[Wayne Thayer via Public]

If you represent a CA, please be aware that this ballot goes into effect on
14-October and likely requires some updates to your CP/CPS. Revocation
requirements (section 4.9.1.1) have changed, and your problem reporting
instructions must now be described in section 1.5.2.

Thanks,

Wayne

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:37 PM Kirk Hall via Public 
wrote:

> [Re-sending in two parts because of size limitations on the Public list.
> This is Part 2.]
>
> *From:* Kirk Hall
> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 4:30 PM
> *To:* 'CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List' 
> *Subject:* Notice of Review Period - Ballot SC6
>
>
>
> *NOTICE OF REVIEW PERIOD – BALLOT SC6*
>
>
>
> This Review Notice is sent pursuant to Section 4.1 of the CA/Browser
> Forum’s Intellectual Property Rights Policy (v1.3).  This Review Period is
> for Final Maintenance Guidelines (30 day Review Period).  A complete draft
> of the Draft Guideline that is the subject of this Review Notice is
> attached.
>
>
>
> Date Review Notice Sent: Sept. 14, 2018
>
>
>
> Ballot for Review:  Ballot SC6 – Revocation Timeline
> Extension
>
>
>
> Start of Review Period: September 14, 2018 at 8:00 pm Eastern Time
>
>
>
> End of Review Period:   October 14, 2018 at 8:00 pm Eastern Time
>
>
>
> A version of the most recent Baseline Requirements including the changes
> made by the Ballot is attached.  I also attach a version in “showing
> changes” mode to help with your review.
>
>
>
> Please forward any Exclusion Notice relating to Essential Claims to the
> Chair by email to kirk.h...@entrustdatacard.com before the end of the
> Review Period.  See current version of CA/Browser Forum Intellectual
> Property Rights Policy for details.
>
>
>
> *(Optional form of Exclusion Notice is attached)*
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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Mads Egil Henriksveen via Public]

Buypass votes YES.



Regards

Mads



From: Public  On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via Public
Sent: torsdag 6. september 2018 06:35
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions



Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions



Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership.



Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.



Explanation of Ballot:



Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.



---Ballot Begins ---



Kirk Hall's term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson's term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018.



---Ballot Ends ---



The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:



Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC



Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC





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[cabfpub] Forum-6 - Update ETSI requirements in the Bylaws

[Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public]

The following motion has been proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos of 
HARICA and endorsed by Moudrick M. Dadashov of SSC and Mads Egil 
Henriksveen from Bypass.


*Background*:

Sections 2.1(a)(1) and 2.1(a)(2) of the Bylaws describe the qualifying 
criteria for "Certificate Issuers" and "Root Certificate Issuers". This 
ballot attempts to remove references to the old ETSI TS documents.


*-- MOTION BEGINS --*

In Sections 2.1(a)(1) and 2.1(a)(2) of the Bylaws, update the ETSI 
references:


"or ETSI TS 102042, ETSI 101456, or ETSI EN 319 411-1" and "ETSI EN 319 
411-1102042 or ETSI TS 102042 or ETSI TS 101 456"


with "or ETSI EN 319 411-1".

*-- MOTION ENDS --*

Here is a red-line of these particular changes.

(1) _Certificate Issuer_: The member organization operates a 
certification authority that has a current and successful WebTrust for 
CAs audit or ETSI EN 319 411-1or ETSI TS 102 042 or ETSI TS 101 456 
audit report prepared by a properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a 
CWG, and that actively issues certificates to end entities, such 
certificates being treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member. 
Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet 
membership criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw 
Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated by the Forum.


(2) _Root Certificate Issuer_: The member organization operates a 
certification authority that has a current and successful WebTrust for 
CAs, or ETSI EN 319 411-1 102042 or ETSI TS 102 042 or ETSI TS 101 
456audit report prepared by a properly-qualified auditor, is a member of 
a CWG, and that issues certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, 
actively issue certificates to end entities such certificates being 
treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member. Applicants that are 
not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership criteria 
may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw Section 3.1 for a 
period of time to be designated by the Forum.



The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

*Forum-6 - Update ETSI requirements in the Bylaws*



*Start time (22:00 UTC)*



*End time (22:00 UTC)*

Discussion (7 days)



17 September 2018



24 September 2018

Vote for approval (7 days)



24 September 2018



1 October 2018

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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public]

SSC votes: "Yes".

Thanks,
M.D.

On 9/6/2018 7:35 AM, Ben Wilson via Public wrote:


*Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions*

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be 
published for discussion and comment by the CABF membership.


Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed 
the proposed ballot.


*Explanation of Ballot: *

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 177, and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice 
Chair of the Forum by Ballot 178. Their terms run from October 22, 
2016 through October 21, 2018.  The Forum wishes to extend these terms 
by 10 days, to run through October 31, 2018, in order that their 
successors can be elected to new two-year terms starting on November 
1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no gap in 
leadership.


*---Ballot Begins --- *

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended 
from October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term 
as Vice Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 
21, 2018 through October 31, 2018.


*---Ballot Ends ---*

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)    Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 
UTC   End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 
16:00:00 UTC End Time: 20-Sept-2018 
16:00:00 UTC




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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Frank Corday via Public]

Trustwave votes Yes on ballot Forum-2.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:35 PM Ben Wilson via Public 
mailto:public@cabforum.org>> wrote:
Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership.

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.

Explanation of Ballot:

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

---Ballot Begins ---

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018.

---Ballot Ends ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


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Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 77, Issue 81

[Ryan Sleevi via Public]

Tim,

Could you explain what you believe is "the status quo" here? A LWG is bound
by the Bylaws in the production of minutes - a conversion to Subcommittee
triggers different behaviours, and "Tim's word" is, unfortunately, not at
all an acceptable guarantee for minimizing ongoing risk. We can address
this by either the SCWG establishing the practice for all Subcommittees -
the preferred approach - or if there is some compelling reason that
necessitates establishing a Subcommittee prior to resolving this (a matter
which no one has yet demonstrated), then in the establishment of those
Subcommittees.

This isn't that hard.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:45 PM Tim Hollebeek 
wrote:

> Ryan, thank you clearly explaining why it is deeply concerning that a
> Google representative is opposed to the status quo.  We will continue to
> have minutes, unless a Google prevents it.
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Sleevi 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 6:52 PM
> *To:* Geoff Keating 
> *Cc:* CABFPub ; Tim Hollebeek <
> tim.holleb...@digicert.com>; Virginia Fournier 
> *Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 77, Issue 81
>
>
>
> You are correct that it's deeply concerning if there can be a Subcommittee
> that *doesn't* take minutes. A good ballot for such a subcommittee would
> affirm its commitment to running in such a way that reduces that risk, so
> that it's easy to support.
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 6:34 PM Geoff Keating  wrote:
>
> I think we’re in agreement as to the effect of not having minutes on the
> IPR policy.
>
>
>
> I don’t believe anyone is proposing a subcommittee charter which
> *prevents* it from having minutes.  So, perhaps if you’re concerned that a
> subcommittee might not have the standard of minute-taking that you would
> like, you could offer to take minutes for that subcommittee?  My experience
> is that such an offer is usually received with gratitude!
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Ryan Sleevi via Public 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Please review section 8 of the IPR policy with your legal counsel, Tim,
> particularly around what constitutes a "Contribution"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:52 PM Tim Hollebeek 
> wrote:
>
> We have the protections in the IPR policy, because we have the IPR
> policy.  To be clear, the existence or absence of minutes does not in any
> way affect the IPR policy, and there’s no text in the Bylaws or IPR policy
> that suggests that it does.
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Public  *On Behalf Of *Ryan Sleevi
> via Public
> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 4:41 PM
> *To:* Virginia Fournier ; CABFPub <
> public@cabforum.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 77, Issue 81
>
>
>
> Virginia,
>
>
>
> I do not understand how that position is at all consistent with our bylaws
> with respect to IP risk. If we have Subcommittees without the requirement
> to maintain or produce minutes, how could we possibly hope to have the IP
> protections afforded by our policy?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:32 PM Virginia Fournier via Public <
> public@cabforum.org> wrote:
>
> It would be great if the people who continually complain that the Bylaws
> don’t contain x, or took away y, would actively participate in the process
> to create new versions of the Bylaws.  The version of the Bylaws creating
> CWGs and their Subcommittees was developed over more than a year, with
> ample time for review, comment, revision, rinse and repeat.
>
>
>
> The Bylaws say that "each CWG may establish any number of subcommittees
> within its own Working Group to address any of such CWG’s business.”
> However, there's nothing in the Bylaws that prohibits Subcommittees from
> having their own mailing lists, minutes, chairs, etc.  It looks like
> Subcommittees have the   flexibility to determine how to conduct their own
> business within the CWG.
>
>
>
> If a CWG wants a Subcommittee to do something specific (like keep
> minutes), they can specify that in the CWG charter.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Virginia Fournier
>
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>
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>
> ☏ 669-227-9595
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Re: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Hornemann, Leyla via Public]

D-TRUST votes YES on Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions.

Regards,
Leyla

Von: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] Im Auftrag von Ben Wilson via 
Public
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. September 2018 21:12
An: CABFPub 
Betreff: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair 
Term Extensions

VOTING HAS STARTED.

DigiCert votes "YES"

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via 
Public
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:35 PM
To: CABFPub mailto:public@cabforum.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term 
Extensions

Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership.

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.

Explanation of Ballot:

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

---Ballot Begins ---

Kirk Hall's term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson's term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018.

---Ballot Ends ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


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Re: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Doug Beattie via Public]

GlobalSign Votes Yes.

 

From: Public  On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via
Public
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 3:12 PM
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair
Term Extensions

 

VOTING HAS STARTED.

 

DigiCert votes "YES"

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson
via Public
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:35 PM
To: CABFPub mailto:public@cabforum.org> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term
Extensions

 

Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

 

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published
for discussion and comment by the CABF membership. 

 

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the
proposed ballot.  

 

Explanation of Ballot: 

 

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot
177, and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the
Forum by Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October
21, 2018.  The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through
October 31, 2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new
two-year terms starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that
there will be no gap in leadership.

 

---Ballot Begins --- 

 

Kirk Hall's term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson's term as Vice
Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018
through October 31, 2018. 

 

---Ballot Ends ---

 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

 

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC
End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

 

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00
UTC End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

 

 



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Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Adriano Santoni via Public]

Actalis votes "Yes".

Il 06/09/2018 06:35, Ben Wilson via Public ha scritto:


*Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions*

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be 
published for discussion and comment by the CABF membership.


Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed 
the proposed ballot.


*Explanation of Ballot: *

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 177, and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice 
Chair of the Forum by Ballot 178. Their terms run from October 22, 
2016 through October 21, 2018.  The Forum wishes to extend these terms 
by 10 days, to run through October 31, 2018, in order that their 
successors can be elected to new two-year terms starting on November 
1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no gap in 
leadership.


*---Ballot Begins --- *

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended 
from October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term 
as Vice Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 
21, 2018 through October 31, 2018.


*---Ballot Ends ---*

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)    Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 
UTC   End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 
16:00:00 UTC End Time: 20-Sept-2018 
16:00:00 UTC



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Re: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and

[陳立群 via Public]

Chunghwa Telecom votes YES.

  Thanks!

 Li-Chun Chen


From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via 
Public
Sent: 14 Eylül 2018 Cuma 22:12
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair 
Term Extensions

VOTING HAS STARTED.

DigiCert votes “YES”

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson via 
Public
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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term 
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Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership. 

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.  

Explanation of Ballot: 

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

---Ballot Begins --- 

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018. 

---Ballot Ends ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC





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Re: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[N. Atilla Biler via Public]

TURKTRUST votes “YES”.

 

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson
via Public
Sent: 14 Eylül 2018 Cuma 22:12
To: CABFPub 
Subject: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair
Term Extensions

 

VOTING HAS STARTED.

 

DigiCert votes “YES”

 

From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson
via Public
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:35 PM
To: CABFPub mailto:public@cabforum.org> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term
Extensions

 

Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

 

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published
for discussion and comment by the CABF membership. 

 

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the
proposed ballot.  

 

Explanation of Ballot: 

 

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot
177, and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the
Forum by Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October
21, 2018.  The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through
October 31, 2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new
two-year terms starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that
there will be no gap in leadership.

 

---Ballot Begins --- 

 

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice
Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018
through October 31, 2018. 

 

---Ballot Ends ---

 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

 

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC
End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

 

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00
UTC End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

 

 

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Re: [cabfpub] VOTING HAS STARTED Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[Tomasz Nowak via Public]

Opera votes YES.

Regards,
Tomasz

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:12 PM Ben Wilson via Public 
wrote:

> VOTING HAS STARTED.
>
>
>
> DigiCert votes “YES”
>
>
>
> *From:* Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ben Wilson via Public
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:35 PM
> *To:* CABFPub 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term
> Extensions
>
>
>
> *Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions*
>
>
>
> Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published
> for discussion and comment by the CABF membership.
>
>
>
> Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the
> proposed ballot.
>
>
>
> *Explanation of Ballot: *
>
>
>
> Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot
> 177, and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the
> Forum by Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October
> 21, 2018.  The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run
> through October 31, 2018, in order that their successors can be elected to
> new two-year terms starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so
> that there will be no gap in leadership.
>
>
>
> *---Ballot Begins --- *
>
>
>
> Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from
> October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice
> Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018
> through October 31, 2018.
>
>
>
> *---Ballot Ends ---*
>
>
>
> The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
>
>
>
> Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC
>   End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00
> UTC End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC
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Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

[Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public]

On 17/9/2018 10:39 πμ, InigoBarreira wrote:
Dimitris, I´m Ok and you have now 2 endorsers, but why still the "or"? 
There´s no options.


It's "Webtrust or"

Dimitris.



Regards

*De:* Mads Egil Henriksveen [mads.henriksv...@buypass.no]
*Enviado:* lunes, 17 de septiembre de 2018 7:00
*Para:* Moudrick M. Dadashov; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public 
Discussion List; Dimitris Zacharopoulos; CA/Browser Forum Public 
Discussion List; InigoBarreira

*Asunto:* RE: [Servercert-wg] [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

I will endorse.

Regards

Mads

*From:*Servercert-wg  *On Behalf 
Of *Moudrick M. Dadashov via Servercert-wg

*Sent:* mandag 17. september 2018 01:05
*To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos ; CA/Browser Forum 
Public Discussion List ; InigoBarreira 
; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion 
List 

*Subject:* Re: [Servercert-wg] [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

This is your first endorser.

Thanks,
M.D.

On 9/16/2018 9:06 PM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:

Hi Inigo,

Tim has withdrawn the changes to ETSI because his main goal is to
just fix the Bylaws with the language of Ballot 206. The risk of
CAs using the old TS standards is already very high and we should
not wait any longer to fix this. I'd be happy to propose a new
ballot to fix the ETSI language for the Bylaws and the SCWG charter.

I will propose replacing:

"or ETSI TS 102042, ETSI 101456, or ETSI EN 319 411-1"

with "or ETSI EN 319 411-1".

That's the only change I am currently willing to propose/endorse.
Looking for two endorsers.


Thanks,
Dimitris.


On 14/9/2018 10:06 πμ, InigoBarreira via Servercert-wg wrote:

Tim,

I´d remove all mentions to ETSI TS documents (102 042 and 101
456) in all CABF documents. These TSs have not been updated
for years, they don´t reflect the current requirements of the
CABF.

Regards



*De:*Servercert-wg [servercert-wg-boun...@cabforum.org
] en nombre de Tim
Hollebeek via Servercert-wg [servercert...@cabforum.org
]
*Enviado:* jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018 20:46
*Para:* Tim Hollebeek; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion
List; Ryan Sleevi; servercert...@cabforum.org

*Asunto:* Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

As discussed on the Validation WG call, this unfortunately is
probably not going to be possible for this particular ballot. 
Ben did a lot of work to get the current redlined document to
accurately reflect what the Bylaws were intended to be at this
point.

In the attached version 3, I’ve corrected a typo that was left
behind after I reverted the ETSI changes.  I would urge a few
people to take a close look at it and make sure there are no
additional errors …

I’ll aim to update the ballot (again, sigh…) once I’ve heard
from a few people that it looks good based on analysis that is
independent of mine and Ben’s.

-Tim

*From:* Public 
 *On Behalf Of *Tim
Hollebeek via Public
*Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:33 AM
*To:* Ryan Sleevi 
; servercert...@cabforum.org

*Cc:* CABFPub  
*Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

I’m highly sympathetic to that, especially with a document as
important as the Bylaws.  I’ve had the same concern as well as
I look through Ben’s redline.  After looking at it closer on
the plane last night, I have some concerns about what appear
to be some changes to cross-references that appear correct,
but I’m not sure if they’re needed.

I will also note that I have previously pointed out that
according to the Bylaws, redlines are REQUIRED, but cannot be
trusted in any way, shape, or form, as our Bylaws clearly
state they are ignored for the purposed of updating the
requirements.  Yet everyone seems to want to review the
redlines, not the ballot text.  As I’ve pointed out several
times, creating an additional representation of the changes
that is required but cannot be trusted doesn’t help anyone.

This is really, really silly, and I wish people were more
vocal and active in finding a solution to it that works for
everyone.  And no, I don’t want to discuss what tools or
processes should be used to produce redlines.

Each ballot should have one and only one official
  

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[陈晓曈 via Public]

SHECA votes yes on Ballot Forum-2


--
Regards，
Toria Chen


Chen Xiaotong  Dept. of Strategic Development
 Shanghai Electronic Certificate Authority Center Co.,Ltd.





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From:  "CA/Browser Forum Public Discuss";
Date:  Thu, Sep 6, 2018 12:35 PM
To:  "CABFPub";

Subject:  [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions



 
Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

 

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership. 

 

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.  

 

Explanation of Ballot: 

 

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

 

---Ballot Begins --- 

 

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018. 

 

---Ballot Ends ---

 

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

 

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

 

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC___
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Re: [cabfpub] 答复: Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

[InigoBarreira via Public]

360 votes YES

De: Public [public-boun...@cabforum.org] en nombre de Xiu Lei via Public 
[public@cabforum.org]
Enviado: lunes, 17 de septiembre de 2018 4:57
Para: 'Ben Wilson'; 'CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List'
Asunto: [cabfpub] 答复: Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

GDCA votes Yes on ballot Forum-2.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Xiu Lei
Security Policy Committee
Global Digital Cybersecurity Authority CO., LTD. (GDCA)
http://www.gdca.com.cn

发件人: public-boun...@cabforum.org [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] 代表 Ben 
Wilson via Public
发送时间: 2018年9月6日 12:35
收件人: CABFPub
主题: [cabfpub] Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ballot Forum-2 - Chair and Vice-Chair Term Extensions

Ben Wilson of DigiCert calls the following proposed ballot to be published for 
discussion and comment by the CABF membership.

Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and Jos Purvis of Cisco have endorsed the 
proposed ballot.

Explanation of Ballot:

Kirk Hall was elected to a two-year term as Chair of the Forum by Ballot 177, 
and Ben Wilson was elected to a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Forum by 
Ballot 178.  Their terms run from October 22, 2016 through October 21, 2018.  
The Forum wishes to extend these terms by 10 days, to run through October 31, 
2018, in order that their successors can be elected to new two-year terms 
starting on November 1, 2018, by separate ballots and so that there will be no 
gap in leadership.

---Ballot Begins ---

Kirk Hall’s term as Chair of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from 
October 21, 2018 through October 31, 2018, and Ben Wilson’s term as Vice Chair 
of the CA/Browser Forum is hereby extended from October 21, 2018 through 
October 31, 2018.

---Ballot Ends ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion Period (7 days)Start Time: 6-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
 End Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC

Voting Period (7 days)   Start Time: 13-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC  
   End Time: 20-Sept-2018 16:00:00 UTC


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Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

[InigoBarreira via Public]

Dimitris, I´m Ok and you have now 2 endorsers, but why still the "or"? There´s 
no options.

Regards

De: Mads Egil Henriksveen [mads.henriksv...@buypass.no]
Enviado: lunes, 17 de septiembre de 2018 7:00
Para: Moudrick M. Dadashov; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion 
List; Dimitris Zacharopoulos; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List; 
InigoBarreira
Asunto: RE: [Servercert-wg] [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

I will endorse.

Regards
Mads

From: Servercert-wg  On Behalf Of Moudrick 
M. Dadashov via Servercert-wg
Sent: mandag 17. september 2018 01:05
To: Dimitris Zacharopoulos ; CA/Browser Forum Public 
Discussion List ; InigoBarreira ; CA/B 
Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Servercert-wg] [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

This is your first endorser.

Thanks,
M.D.
On 9/16/2018 9:06 PM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:
Hi Inigo,

Tim has withdrawn the changes to ETSI because his main goal is to just fix the 
Bylaws with the language of Ballot 206. The risk of CAs using the old TS 
standards is already very high and we should not wait any longer to fix this. 
I'd be happy to propose a new ballot to fix the ETSI language for the Bylaws 
and the SCWG charter.

I will propose replacing:

"or ETSI TS 102042, ETSI 101456, or ETSI EN 319 411-1"

with "or ETSI EN 319 411-1".

That's the only change I am currently willing to propose/endorse. Looking for 
two endorsers.


Thanks,
Dimitris.


On 14/9/2018 10:06 πμ, InigoBarreira via Servercert-wg wrote:
Tim,

I´d remove all mentions to ETSI TS documents (102 042 and 101 456) in all CABF 
documents. These TSs have not been updated for years, they don´t reflect the 
current requirements of the CABF.

Regards

De: Servercert-wg 
[servercert-wg-boun...@cabforum.org] 
en nombre de Tim Hollebeek via Servercert-wg 
[servercert...@cabforum.org]
Enviado: jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018 20:46
Para: Tim Hollebeek; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List; Ryan Sleevi; 
servercert...@cabforum.org
Asunto: Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2
As discussed on the Validation WG call, this unfortunately is probably not 
going to be possible for this particular ballot.  Ben did a lot of work to get 
the current redlined document to accurately reflect what the Bylaws were 
intended to be at this point.

In the attached version 3, I’ve corrected a typo that was left behind after I 
reverted the ETSI changes.  I would urge a few people to take a close look at 
it and make sure there are no additional errors …

I’ll aim to update the ballot (again, sigh…) once I’ve heard from a few people 
that it looks good based on analysis that is independent of mine and Ben’s.

-Tim

From: Public  
On Behalf Of Tim Hollebeek via Public
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:33 AM
To: Ryan Sleevi ; 
servercert...@cabforum.org
Cc: CABFPub 
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

I’m highly sympathetic to that, especially with a document as important as the 
Bylaws.  I’ve had the same concern as well as I look through Ben’s redline.  
After looking at it closer on the plane last night, I have some concerns about 
what appear to be some changes to cross-references that appear correct, but I’m 
not sure if they’re needed.

I will also note that I have previously pointed out that according to the 
Bylaws, redlines are REQUIRED, but cannot be trusted in any way, shape, or 
form, as our Bylaws clearly state they are ignored for the purposed of updating 
the requirements.  Yet everyone seems to want to review the redlines, not the 
ballot text.  As I’ve pointed out several times, creating an additional 
representation of the changes that is required but cannot be trusted doesn’t 
help anyone.

This is really, really silly, and I wish people were more vocal and active in 
finding a solution to it that works for everyone.  And no, I don’t want to 
discuss what tools or processes should be used to produce redlines.

Each ballot should have one and only one official representation of the 
proposed changes, and no alternative unofficial changes should be required.  
I’ve circulated several proposals, but I really don’t care about the details, 
as long as the problem is solved.

In this case, I think I’m going to look and see if the Ballot Text from 216 
applies cleanly to the latest Bylaws, and produce a redline based on that.

-Tim

From: Ryan Sleevi mailto:sle...@google.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:15 AM
To: Tim Hollebeek 
mailto:tim.holleb...@digicert.com>>; 
servercert...@cabforum.org
Cc: CABFPub mailto:public@cabforum.org>>
Subject: Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot FORUM-4 v2

Tim,

I believe there had