Re: [cabfpub] [外部郵件] Re: Draft Agenda for F2F meeting Research Triangle Park, NC - March 21-23

2017-02-27 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public


On 27/2/2017 3:22 μμ, realsky(CHT) via Public wrote:
>As for suggestion to Microsft , it was post by Dimitris, thanks for
> him. Because that mail was in my office computer, it is National
> holiday in Tawian, If Dimitris read the mail, please tell us the status.

Here is the current Issue status

Dimitris.




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Re: [cabfpub] [外部郵件] Re: Draft Agenda for F2F meeting Research Triangle Park, NC - March 21-23

2017-02-27 Thread realsky(CHT) via Public
Since I needed an invitation letter to join F2F meeting, so I remeber Dean told 
me the meeting agenda is  confirmed one week or two weeks before the F2F 
meeting. The agenda was copied from Redmond meeting with little modification. I 
agree with  Ryan' and Peter's suggestion. It is time for Kirk to collet 
suggestion to arrange the new meeting agenda and update the Wiki.  


   As for Redmond's meeting, my topic about changing to browser UI for Subject 
DN of EV SSL Certificate has not yet be resolved. 

  It seems there is no further progress after I and Dimitris file a bug 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308755
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500333

   As for suggestion to Microsft , it was post by Dimitris, thanks for him. 
Because that mail was in my office computer, it is National holiday in Tawian, 
If Dimitris read the mail, please tell us the status.

 Li-Chun Chen
 Chunghwa Telecom 



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From:Ryan Sleevi via Public<public@cabforum.org>
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 04:48:43
Subject: [外部郵件] Re: [cabfpub] Draft Agenda for F2F meeting Research Triangle 
Park, NC - March 21-23


On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Peter Bowen via Public <public@cabforum.org> 
wrote:
Kirk,

It looks like Day 2 is mostly copied from the Redmond F2F agenda.  I don’t have 
an intention of repeating the topics I lead previously unless there are new 
things to cover.

Thanks,
Peter

Indeed, I was just about to suggest that for several of the other (non-Peter) 
topics, unless there's something new to cover - and ideally, discussed on the 
list prior - we shouldn't schedule those items either.

I also note that Day 1 limits the discussion of "Future Thoughts" to 45 
minutes, although I would suggest and suspect that this is a line of discussion 
that might easily occupy an hour and a half, if not more, as members work 
through understanding the various goals of the suggestions, and then try to map 
out possible paths towards those goals by articulating concerns and constraints 
that they may have.

If I might, borrowing from an "unconference" like approach, might I suggest 
that Day 1 gather the "Future Thoughts" as scheduled, and have a (brief) 
discussion and presentation of those future thoughts (also as scheduled), but 
we make use of time of Day 2 to actually explore and articulate how to get 
there. This would allow time for members to socialize and understand the items 
raised on Day 1, and then come back on Day 2 with a better sense of concerns 
and directions. I suspect this will allow us a much more productive discussion 
and figuring out next steps.

Alternatively, we could consider gathering those discussion items now, prior to 
the meeting. Day 1 can include a summary of the items and themes and allow time 
for basic clarification, and then we can dedicate several discussion slots on 
Day 2 to explore those items identified as either controversial or as shared 
interest, so that we can more rapidly make progress. This might make it more 
productive then, say, if I were to request several agenda slots for what Google 
considers as high importance and future direction.

Another agenda item I might suggest, and I'm happy to be the 'discussion 
leader' because of it, is the question about the role and relationship of the 
Forum. Judging by the reactions to Ballot 185, and from various questions that 
have come in on the questions@ list which have sparked debate, perhaps it's 
worth revisiting how different members see the role and scope of the Forum, so 
that we can better understand each other's objectives and needs.

There also appears to be one or two agenda items previously discussed, but 
missing. One was a retrospective discussion about the SHA-1 deprecation, with 
input from various Browsers, to help capture and crystalize the challenges and 
to examine some of the lessons learned from the SHA-1 exception process. 
Another was more targeted towards the technical members of the Forum, which is 
related to workflow management (GitHub, production of PDFs, etc), with the goal 
of making it less onerous on Ben to manage that. I realize that the Forum has 
historically conducted a 'single track' meeting schedule, there may be 
opportunity during the WG day to run that exploration in parallel, if there's 
space available. My instinct is that there may be sufficient non-overlap in 
members as the Governance discussions, but as the agenda for Day 2 shapes out, 
there may be an opportunity there instead.

 
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