Re: Semantic Web logo. Copyrights, etc
Aldo,
Yes. The box
http://www.w3.org/Icons/SW/sw-cube.{svg,png,giv}
can be used as you describe. If put into a composition but it is clearly
recognizable, I do not see any issue with that either. A good example is
the logo used by RPI:
http://tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Main_Page
(They actually went out of their way by creating an image map, so that
the box links to the W3C site, whereas other parts of the logo links to
RPI...)
'Distortion' is not listed on the logo page and, I presume, this might
be a borderline. I could apply strong distortion that would make the
logo barely recognizable, and I think W3C might have an issue with that.
But mild distortion (ie, slight change in scale factors) should be fine.
If you really want to apply such distortion, you may want to check with
W3C first.
Cheers
Ivan
Aldo Bucchi wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure if this is the place for this, but I believe it is common concern.
I have seen several projects using tweaks (color, distortion,
composition) of the Semantic Web box logo. After reading the
policies I believe that this is allowed as long as there is no W3C
logo involved.
http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html
Is this correct? Can I create such modifiied derivatives from the
clean box logo w/o running into any problems?
Composition is the border case as the logo is unmodified and
recognizable, therefore legally troublesome.
My 2 cents is that they should allow anything as long as you strip
the W3C part.
Thanks,
A
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Re: Announcement: Bio2RDF 0.3 released
As part of the biordf query federation task, we are currently exploring a federation scenario involving integration of neuroreceptor-related information. For example, IUPHAR provides information for different classes of receptors. For example, in the table shown at http://www.iuphar-db.org/GPCR/ReceptorListForward?class=class%20A, ligands are provided for receptors but not InChI codes ... -Kei One types of Egon Willighagen wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/22 Egon Willighagen egon.willigha...@gmail.com: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Do you also provide InChIKey resolution? No. That requires look up, so only works against an existing database. Chemspider is doing this, but is not a general solution. InChIKey's are not unique, though clashes rare, and not observed so far. I didn't think it required a lookup to derive an InChIKey given an InChI. Ah, sorry. InChIKey can be computed, but I thought you meant resolving what structure has a given InChIKey... going from InChIKey to structure does require lookup, generation from InChIKey from structure (or InChI) does not. I realise that clashes are rare but possible, just wondering whether it would be supported. Leaving them out altogether just seems like missing possibly extra information. I'll add them where missing. [1] It is just that InChI's can get pretty long for complex molecules and it makes it harder for people to accurately copy and paste them around when needed. Indeed. However, InChIKey is less precise. RDF allowing us to be do things in an exact manner, I rather use InChI. InChiKey's might be better for general use in RDF because they have a guaranteed identifier length and therefore won't become cumbersome for complex molecules. But can never be used for owl:sameAs like relations. Having them as properties could give someone a quick clue as to whether they are looking at the same molecule. Humans do interact with RDF (inevitably), and having short hash values can still be valuable. Given that hashes are usually designed to amplify small changes, it is easier than reading a 10 line InChiKey to determine whether there was a difference. Agreed. Currently all of the InChI's that I have seen have been as Literals, but it would be relatively easy to also provide them as URI's to provide the link since you have a resolver for them set up. That was precisely the reason why I started the service. Good work. Thanx for the feedback! Egon
Re: Announcement: Bio2RDF 0.3 released
Hi Kei, On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Kei Cheung kei.che...@yale.edu wrote: As part of the biordf query federation task, we are currently exploring a federation scenario involving integration of neuroreceptor-related information. For example, IUPHAR provides information for different classes of receptors. For example, in the table shown at http://www.iuphar-db.org/GPCR/ReceptorListForward?class=class%20A, ligands are provided for receptors but not InChI codes ... That's an interesting table... not Open it seems... did you ask permission (and get) permission to redistribute under a free license, perhaps? The list is not overly long, and InChIs could be added manually, though one would have to assume the compound names (btw, some are compound classses!) are unique... PubChem also has links to MeSH terms, and I also see a MeSH term in the ChemBox on WikiPedia... that would be open data, and could provide similary information. I have been pondering about setting up open source semantic wiki to linking data, where there is no Open source for that available, but have not had time for that yet. Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
Re: Semantic Web logo. Copyrights, etc
Ivan,
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Ivan Herman i...@w3.org wrote:
Aldo,
Yes. The box
http://www.w3.org/Icons/SW/sw-cube.{svg,png,giv}
can be used as you describe. If put into a composition but it is clearly
recognizable, I do not see any issue with that either. A good example is
the logo used by RPI:
http://tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Main_Page
(They actually went out of their way by creating an image map, so that
the box links to the W3C site, whereas other parts of the logo links to
RPI...)
OK Great ;)
'Distortion' is not listed on the logo page and, I presume, this might
be a borderline. I could apply strong distortion that would make the
logo barely recognizable, and I think W3C might have an issue with that.
But mild distortion (ie, slight change in scale factors) should be fine.
If you really want to apply such distortion, you may want to check with
W3C first.
I can't remember now, but I am sure there are some distorted versions
out there in the wild. In particular I remember one with a twirl.
In a dogfood manner, is there an RDF vocabulary to describe such
relations? ( derived from ).
It would be useful if the W3C demanded the generated logos to be
RDF-linked to the page via a wiki for example.
Well, that's too much of a stretch, but I think this is not too crazy
an idea: Dogfood, show benefits (right on the page via a dynamic link)
and save some work W3C work patrolling for logos.
This is also in line with CC and, perhaps, even Open Data licensing, etc.
Cheers
Ivan
Thanks,
A
PS. I said derivatives. The D word... sorry for that ;)
Aldo Bucchi wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure if this is the place for this, but I believe it is common concern.
I have seen several projects using tweaks (color, distortion,
composition) of the Semantic Web box logo. After reading the
policies I believe that this is allowed as long as there is no W3C
logo involved.
http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html
Is this correct? Can I create such modifiied derivatives from the
clean box logo w/o running into any problems?
Composition is the border case as the logo is unmodified and
recognizable, therefore legally troublesome.
My 2 cents is that they should allow anything as long as you strip
the W3C part.
Thanks,
A
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Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
Steve Judkins wrote: It seems like this has the potential to become a nice collaborative production pipeline. It would be nice to have a feed for data updates, so we can fire up our EC2 instance when the data has been processed and packaged by the providers we are interested in. For example, if Openlink wants to fire up their AMI to processes the raw dumps from http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads32 into this cloud storage, we can wait until a virtuoso ready package has been produced before we update. As more agents get involved in processing the data, this will allow for more automation notifications of updated dumps or SPARQL endpoints. Yes, certainly. Kingsley -Steve -Original Message- From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:20 PM To: Hugh Glaser Cc: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets Hugh Glaser wrote: Thanks for the swift response! I'm still puzzled - sorry to be slow. http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/#2 Says: Amazon EC2 customers can access this data by creating their own personal Amazon EBS volumes, using the public data set snapshots as a starting point. They can then access, modify and perform computation on these volumes directly using their Amazon EC2 instances and just pay for the compute and storage resources that they use. Does this not mean it costs me money on my EC2 account? Or is there some other way of accessing the data? Or am I looking at the wrong bit? Okay, I see what I overlooked: the cost of paying for an AMI that mounts these EBS volumes, even though Amazon is charging $0.00 for uploading these huge amounts of data where it would usually charge. So to conclude, using the loaded data sets isn't free, but I think we have to be somewhat appreciative of a value here, right? Amazon is providing a service that is ultimately pegged to usage (utility model), and the usage comes down to value associated with that scarce resource called time. Ie Can you give me a clue how to get at the data without using my credit card please? :-) You can't you will need someone to build an EC2 service for you and eat the costs on your behalf. Of course such a service isn't impossible in a Numerati [1] economy, but we aren't quite there yet, need the Linked Data Web in place first :-) Links: 1. http://tinyurl.com/64gsan Kingsley Best Hugh On 05/12/2008 02:28, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Exciting stuff, Kingsley. I'm not quite sure I have worked out how I might use it though. The page says that hosting data is clearly free, but I can't see how to get at it without paying for it as an EC2 customer. Is this right? Cheers Hugh, No, shouldn't cost anything if the LOD data sets are hosted in this particular location :-) Kingsley Hugh On 01/12/2008 15:30, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, Please see: http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ ; potentially the final destination of all published RDF archives from the LOD cloud. I've already made a request on behalf of LOD, but additional requests from the community will accelerate the general comprehension and awareness at Amazon. Once the data sets are available from Amazon, database constructions costs will be significantly alleviated. We have DBpedia reconstruction down to 1.5 hrs (or less) based on Virtuoso's in-built integration with Amazon S3 for backup and restoration etc.. We could get the reconstruction of the entire LOD cloud down to some interesting numbers once all the data is situated in an Amazon data center. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
Steve Judkins wrote: Another goal would be to allow this pipeline to extend full circle back to Wikipedia so that users and agents can pass corrections and new content back to Wikipedia for review and inclusion in future release without editing the wiki directly (we need to protect our watershed). Is there another thread that addresses this somewhere? We are getting closer to DBpedia real-time i.e. DBpedia staying in close sync with Wikipedia. Of course, routing changes back to Wikipedia would be great, but I think there is the whole Wikipedia process to deal with etc.. Kingsley -steve -Original Message- From: Steve Judkins [mailto:st...@wisdomnets.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:40 PM To: 'Kingsley Idehen'; 'Hugh Glaser' Cc: 'public-lod@w3.org' Subject: RE: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets It seems like this has the potential to become a nice collaborative production pipeline. It would be nice to have a feed for data updates, so we can fire up our EC2 instance when the data has been processed and packaged by the providers we are interested in. For example, if Openlink wants to fire up their AMI to processes the raw dumps from http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads32 into this cloud storage, we can wait until a virtuoso ready package has been produced before we update. As more agents get involved in processing the data, this will allow for more automation notifications of updated dumps or SPARQL endpoints. -Steve -Original Message- From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:20 PM To: Hugh Glaser Cc: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets Hugh Glaser wrote: Thanks for the swift response! I'm still puzzled - sorry to be slow. http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/#2 Says: Amazon EC2 customers can access this data by creating their own personal Amazon EBS volumes, using the public data set snapshots as a starting point. They can then access, modify and perform computation on these volumes directly using their Amazon EC2 instances and just pay for the compute and storage resources that they use. Does this not mean it costs me money on my EC2 account? Or is there some other way of accessing the data? Or am I looking at the wrong bit? Okay, I see what I overlooked: the cost of paying for an AMI that mounts these EBS volumes, even though Amazon is charging $0.00 for uploading these huge amounts of data where it would usually charge. So to conclude, using the loaded data sets isn't free, but I think we have to be somewhat appreciative of a value here, right? Amazon is providing a service that is ultimately pegged to usage (utility model), and the usage comes down to value associated with that scarce resource called time. Ie Can you give me a clue how to get at the data without using my credit card please? :-) You can't you will need someone to build an EC2 service for you and eat the costs on your behalf. Of course such a service isn't impossible in a Numerati [1] economy, but we aren't quite there yet, need the Linked Data Web in place first :-) Links: 1. http://tinyurl.com/64gsan Kingsley Best Hugh On 05/12/2008 02:28, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Exciting stuff, Kingsley. I'm not quite sure I have worked out how I might use it though. The page says that hosting data is clearly free, but I can't see how to get at it without paying for it as an EC2 customer. Is this right? Cheers Hugh, No, shouldn't cost anything if the LOD data sets are hosted in this particular location :-) Kingsley Hugh On 01/12/2008 15:30, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, Please see: http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ ; potentially the final destination of all published RDF archives from the LOD cloud. I've already made a request on behalf of LOD, but additional requests from the community will accelerate the general comprehension and awareness at Amazon. Once the data sets are available from Amazon, database constructions costs will be significantly alleviated. We have DBpedia reconstruction down to 1.5 hrs (or less) based on Virtuoso's in-built integration with Amazon S3 for backup and restoration etc.. We could get the reconstruction of the entire LOD cloud down to some interesting numbers once all the data is situated in an Amazon data center. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink
Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets
Steve Judkins wrote: I found Medline to have a pretty nice model for this. Every so often they ship a full DB dump in XML as chunked zip files (not more than a 1Gb each if I remember). Subscribers just synchronize the FTP directories between the Medline server and local server. After that you can process daily diff dumps. The downloads were just XML with a stream of record URIs with an Add/Modify/Delete attribute, and the data fields that changed. A well known graph where you can look for changes to the LOD datasources you care about, and get SIOC markup for this that describes the Items, Date, and Agents/People doing the modifications. This is a great use case for the FOAF+SSL OAuth because you may only automatically process updates from Agents you trust (e.g. Wikipedia might only take changes from DBPedia). Steve, You're very much on the ball here, this is very much the kind of thing foaf+ssl [1] is about :-) I was going to unveil similar capabilities re. DBpedia endpoint down the line i.e. SPARQL endpoint behavior aligned to trusted identities etc.. Links: 1. http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl - FOAF+SSL Kingsley -Steve -Original Message- From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:34 PM To: Steve Judkins Cc: 'Hugh Glaser'; public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets Steve Judkins wrote: It seems like this has the potential to become a nice collaborative production pipeline. It would be nice to have a feed for data updates, so we can fire up our EC2 instance when the data has been processed and packaged by the providers we are interested in. For example, if Openlink wants to fire up their AMI to processes the raw dumps from http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads32 into this cloud storage, we can wait until a virtuoso ready package has been produced before we update. As more agents get involved in processing the data, this will allow for more automation notifications of updated dumps or SPARQL endpoints. Yes, certainly. Kingsley -Steve -Original Message- From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:20 PM To: Hugh Glaser Cc: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets Hugh Glaser wrote: Thanks for the swift response! I'm still puzzled - sorry to be slow. http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/#2 Says: Amazon EC2 customers can access this data by creating their own personal Amazon EBS volumes, using the public data set snapshots as a starting point. They can then access, modify and perform computation on these volumes directly using their Amazon EC2 instances and just pay for the compute and storage resources that they use. Does this not mean it costs me money on my EC2 account? Or is there some other way of accessing the data? Or am I looking at the wrong bit? Okay, I see what I overlooked: the cost of paying for an AMI that mounts these EBS volumes, even though Amazon is charging $0.00 for uploading these huge amounts of data where it would usually charge. So to conclude, using the loaded data sets isn't free, but I think we have to be somewhat appreciative of a value here, right? Amazon is providing a service that is ultimately pegged to usage (utility model), and the usage comes down to value associated with that scarce resource called time. Ie Can you give me a clue how to get at the data without using my credit card please? :-) You can't you will need someone to build an EC2 service for you and eat the costs on your behalf. Of course such a service isn't impossible in a Numerati [1] economy, but we aren't quite there yet, need the Linked Data Web in place first :-) Links: 1. http://tinyurl.com/64gsan Kingsley Best Hugh On 05/12/2008 02:28, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Hugh Glaser wrote: Exciting stuff, Kingsley. I'm not quite sure I have worked out how I might use it though. The page says that hosting data is clearly free, but I can't see how to get at it without paying for it as an EC2 customer. Is this right? Cheers Hugh, No, shouldn't cost anything if the LOD data sets are hosted in this particular location :-) Kingsley Hugh On 01/12/2008 15:30, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: All, Please see: http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ ; potentially the final destination of all published RDF archives from the LOD cloud. I've already made a request on behalf of LOD, but additional requests from the community will accelerate the general comprehension and awareness at Amazon. Once the data sets are available from Amazon, database constructions
