Re: Representing relation between posts
Hi Daniel, On 2 Jun 2010, at 07:49, Daniel Schwabe wrote: On 02/06/10 00:17 - 02/06/10, KangHao Lu (Kenny) wrote: On 2010/06/02, at 7:20, Daniel Schwabe wrote: Hi all, is there a preferred way to represent the relation between posts in different Social Sites? For example, it is now pretty common to post to Twitter, and this post becomes a post in my wall in Facebook. It would be nice to represent the relation between these two posts. I don't think this can be represented directly using SIOC, for instance. dc:source ? I can't really believe that SIOC does not have this feature. Well, I could not find it, hence my question. Hopefully the SIOC Gurus may have an answer... As Stuart pointed out, we want to capture the fact that it is the same post, but within different contexts. In many cases, they will be generated automatically... As Nathan, suggested, the sioc:sibling has been designed for that http://rdfs.org/sioc/spec/#term_sibling An Item may have a sibling or a twin that exists in a different Container, but the siblings may differ in some small way (for example, language, category, etc.). The sibling of this Item should be self-describing (that is, it should contain all available information). Won't it be enough for your needs ? Best, Alex. Cheers D --- Daniel Schwabe Dept. de Informatica, PUC-Rio Tel:+55-21-3527 1500 r. 4356R. M. de S. Vicente, 225 Fax: +55-21-3527 1530 Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22453-900, Brasil http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~dschwabe -- Dr. Alexandre Passant Digital Enterprise Research Institute National University of Ireland, Galway :me owl:sameAs http://apassant.net/alex .
Re: Organization ontology
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of organizational structures including government organizations. This was motivated by the needs of the data.gov.uk project. After some checking we were unable to find an existing ontology that precisely met our needs and so developed this generic core, intended to be extensible to particular domains of use. [1] http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html I think this is great, but I'm a little worried that a number of Western (and specifically Westminister) assumptions may have been built into it. Interesting. We tried to keep the ontology reasonably neutral, that's why, for example, there is no notion of a Government or Corporation. Could you say a little more about the specific Western Westminster assumptions that you feel are built into it? We do have the notion of a Head role and corresponding headOf relation (because it is such a common notion and part of our competency questions) but there are no cardinality constraints and no requirement that any specific organizational structure support that role. What would be great would be to see a handful of different organisations (or portions of them) from different traditions modelled. Maybe: * The tripartite system at the top of US government, which seems pretty complex to me, with former Presidents apparently retaining some control after they leave office Control is a different issue from organizational structure. This ontology is not designed to support reasoning about authority and governance models. There are Enterprise Ontologies that explicitly model authority, accountability and empowerment flows and it would be possible to create a generic one which bolted alongside org but org is not such a beast :) Dave
Re: Cool URIs (was: Re: Java Framework for Content Negotiation)
On 1 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Bernhard Schandl wrote: I want to throw in another question, are there currently arguments for or against the two alternatives: http://www.example.org/doc/alice.html vs http://www.example.org/doc/html/alice and the same for .rdf vs rdf/ In terms of web architecture both options are the same. But the first one has several “soft” advantages: - more idiomatic and hence easier to remember and use - more compatible with the Hierarchical URIs pattern [1] - yields an obvious URI for the generic, format-independent version of the resource (chop off the extension) Best, Richard [1] http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/hierarchical-uris.html Best Bernhard
Re: Organization ontology
To give some different perspective, I don't believe that any of those issues w/r/t to other governance models impinge on the quality or utility of this organization ontology whatever. Does it accurately depict every possible scenario? Not at all. Is it adequate for the use cases and requirements it was set out to achieve? It certainly appears that way. Further, governance is -- as Dave points out -- in some ways orthogonal to organizational structure (so, in some sense this is *not* true, in that some org structures prohibit or inhibit some control models, and vice versa, but that only matters here if it does, and I claim that it doesn't). This is -- as I said on Twitter last week -- outstanding work and we will be adopting adapting it in our work at NASA and other fed govt customers. Cheers, Kendall Clark On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:06 +1200, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of organizational structures including government organizations. This was motivated by the needs of the data.gov.uk project. After some checking we were unable to find an existing ontology that precisely met our needs and so developed this generic core, intended to be extensible to particular domains of use. [1] http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html I think this is great, but I'm a little worried that a number of Western (and specifically Westminister) assumptions may have been built into it. Interesting. We tried to keep the ontology reasonably neutral, that's why, for example, there is no notion of a Government or Corporation. Could you say a little more about the specific Western Westminster assumptions that you feel are built into it? We do have the notion of a Head role and corresponding headOf relation (because it is such a common notion and part of our competency questions) but there are no cardinality constraints and no requirement that any specific organizational structure support that role. What would be great would be to see a handful of different organisations (or portions of them) from different traditions modelled. Maybe: * The tripartite system at the top of US government, which seems pretty complex to me, with former Presidents apparently retaining some control after they leave office Control is a different issue from organizational structure. This ontology is not designed to support reasoning about authority and governance models. There are Enterprise Ontologies that explicitly model authority, accountability and empowerment flows and it would be possible to create a generic one which bolted alongside org but org is not such a beast :) Dave
UIC 2010 Workshops - CFP (Xi\'an, China, 26-29 October)
** Apologies for cross-posting of this CFP. ** ===UIC 2010 Workshops CFP The 7th International Conference on Ubiquitous Intelligence and Computing (UIC 2010) - Building Smart Worlds in Real and Cyber Spaces - -http://www.nwpu.edu.cn/uic2010/ Xi'an, China, 26-29 October, 2010 Co-located with ATC 2010 (http://www.nwpu.edu.cn/atc2010/) The 7th International Conference on Ubiquitous Intelligence and Computing (UIC 2010) will feature six quality workshops for researchers and practitioners to share their research experience, original research results and practical development experiences on specific new challenges and emerging issues in relation to Ubiquitous Intelligence and Computing. The UIC 2010 workshops will cover key research topics such as pervasive media (PerMedia 2010), Ubiquitous Multimedia Computing and Communication (UMCC 2010), Ubiquitous Service Systems and Technologies (USST 2010), Service, Security and Data management technologies in Ubi-Com (SSDU 2010), Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking (IWDTN 2010), Mobile Cyber-Physical Systems (MobiCPS 2010) - PerMedia 2010 (The 2010 International Workshop on Pervasive Media) Website: http://www-nishio.ist.osaka-u.ac.jp/~leishu/workshop/permedia/index.html Organizer: Lei Shu, Xianfu Lei, Timothy K. Shih, Jianhua Ma, Laurence T. Yang Contact: lei@live.ie, xfle...@yahoo.com.cn - UMCC 2010 (The First International Workshop on Ubiquitous Multimedia Computing and Communication) Website: http://umcc2010.cis.unisa.edu.au Organizer: Ivan Lee, Frode Eika Sandnes, Jianhua Ma, Shiuh-Jeng Wang Contact: ivan@unisa.edu.au, fro...@hio.no, jian...@hosei.ac.jp, sjw...@mail.cpu.edu.tw - USST 2010 (The 2010 International Workshop on Ubiquitous Service Systems and Technologies) Organizer: Yo-Ping Huang, Frode Eika Sandnes Contact: yphu...@ntut.edu.tw, fro...@hio.no - SSDU-10 (The 2010 International Symposium on Service, Security and Data management technologies in Ubi-com) Website: http://www.ftrai.org/ssdu2010 (TBA) Organizer: Jong Hyuk Park, Kuan-Ching Li, Xiaolin (Andy) Li, Guojun Wang Contact: parkjonghy...@hotmail.com, kuan...@gmail.com, xiao...@cs.okstate.edu, csgjw...@gmail.com - IWDTN'10 (The 2010 International Workshop on Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking) Website: TBA Organizer: Prof. Limin Sun and Dr. Weijun Qin Contact: sunli...@is.iscas.ac.cn, qinwei...@is.iscas.ac.cn - MobiCPS 2010 (The 1st IEEE International Workshop on Mobile Cyber-Physical Systems) Website: http://www.cpschina.org/mobicps Organizer: Jiannong Cao, Yangquan Chen, Feng Xia, Yan Zhang Contact: csj...@comp.polyu.edu.hk, yangquan.c...@usu.edu, f@ieee.org, yanzh...@simula.no The workshops will be held on October 26-29 2010, in Xi'an, China. Authors are invited to submit 6-page original/position/work-in-progress/experience papers using the IEEE format for conference proceedings. Accepted papers will be published by IEEE (EI indexed) in the conference workshop proceedings. Submission deadline (June 15 2010) and other important dates are available on the workshops websites. For possible extension of submission deadline, please contact the organizer of individual workshop. We are looking forward to your participation at the UIC 2010 workshops. UIC 2010 Workshop Chairs Robert C. Hsu, Chung Hua Univ., Taiwan Mieso Denko, University of Guelph, Canada
Re: Representing relation between posts
On 02/06/10 03:07 - 02/06/10, Alexandre Passant wrote: Hi Daniel, ... As Nathan, suggested, the sioc:sibling has been designed for that http://rdfs.org/sioc/spec/#term_sibling An Item may have a sibling or a twin that exists in a different Container, but the siblings may differ in some small way (for example, language, category, etc.). The sibling of this Item should be self-describing (that is, it should contain all available information). Won't it be enough for your needs ? Yes - the name threw me off, I suppose it is what I am looking for in this case. Thanks! Cheers D
Why should we publish ordered collections or indexes as RDF?
[Apologies for cross-posting] Why should we publish ordered collections or indexes as RDF? is it necessary? Peng
