Re: Linked Data Visualization Platforms; Different Approaches

2008-08-22 Thread Aldo Bucchi

Hmm... this Silence probably proves my point
Or maybe my post wasn't clear enough.

Consider tapping into established visualization frameworks and richer
client platforms ;)
If we get RDF there ( by extending their frameworks and evangelizing
), then those particular communities can make their decentralized
contribution.

Piggyback the Global Mind.
These problems are not new to the world.
They just have different names for different people.

Best,
A


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Aldo Bucchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I was trying to hold back... but isolation is killing me. I guess we
 are social in nature.
 Some of you know I spent quite some time working on a visualization
 platform. Part of it was built on a Java / processing hybrid and
 surfaced through a thin ( flash ) client using some pretty complex
 streaming tricks ( think VNC ).
 It looks nothing like the UIs you are working on, although
 conceptually we went down similar paths.
 Since we stood on a much more solid platform, with infinite tools at
 hand and infinite local *processing ;)* power, it was easier to
 experiment ( we didn't rely on the client, Ajax, etc ) and we moved
 forward faster.

 You can say I cheated ;)

 Now, with the advent of Flash/Flex/AIR and the other RIA platforms (
 Silverlight, JavaFX and maybe even Gears ), similar power will
 eventually be available on the client side.

 ( forget about having powerful and modular Javascript for a while,
 things are not looking nice[1] )

 I guess my point is: consider breaking FREE OF THE RULES and use all
 the tools to experiment ( even if they break some standards, you can
 then come back ). There are infinite paradigms to experiment with.

 Some pointers:
 A very nice vis newcomer in Flex: SpatialKey [2]
 My incipient RDF framework for the Flash platform [3]

 I am not saying you don't know that there are other ways to do this.
 Just that you should reconsider the benefits of using a better
 framework... even if it is only for research. Back to the Haystack
 days perhaps.
 Imagine how fast faceted browsing can be with a co-located triple
 store feeding a specially crafted federated querying engine.

 Processing on the edge.

 Best,
 A

 [1] https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2008-August/003400.html
 [2] http://www.spatialkey.com/
 [3] http://www.semanticflash.org/

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Linked Data Visualization Platforms; Different Approaches

2008-08-20 Thread Aldo Bucchi

Hi,

I was trying to hold back... but isolation is killing me. I guess we
are social in nature.
Some of you know I spent quite some time working on a visualization
platform. Part of it was built on a Java / processing hybrid and
surfaced through a thin ( flash ) client using some pretty complex
streaming tricks ( think VNC ).
It looks nothing like the UIs you are working on, although
conceptually we went down similar paths.
Since we stood on a much more solid platform, with infinite tools at
hand and infinite local *processing ;)* power, it was easier to
experiment ( we didn't rely on the client, Ajax, etc ) and we moved
forward faster.

You can say I cheated ;)

Now, with the advent of Flash/Flex/AIR and the other RIA platforms (
Silverlight, JavaFX and maybe even Gears ), similar power will
eventually be available on the client side.

( forget about having powerful and modular Javascript for a while,
things are not looking nice[1] )

I guess my point is: consider breaking FREE OF THE RULES and use all
the tools to experiment ( even if they break some standards, you can
then come back ). There are infinite paradigms to experiment with.

Some pointers:
A very nice vis newcomer in Flex: SpatialKey [2]
My incipient RDF framework for the Flash platform [3]

I am not saying you don't know that there are other ways to do this.
Just that you should reconsider the benefits of using a better
framework... even if it is only for research. Back to the Haystack
days perhaps.
Imagine how fast faceted browsing can be with a co-located triple
store feeding a specially crafted federated querying engine.

Processing on the edge.

Best,
A

[1] https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2008-August/003400.html
[2] http://www.spatialkey.com/
[3] http://www.semanticflash.org/

-- 
 Aldo Bucchi 
+56 9 7623 8653
skype:aldo.bucchi
http://aldobucchi.com/
http://univrz.com/