Re: [ProgressEvents]

2008-09-08 Thread Jonas Sicking


Garrett Smith wrote:

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello webapps wg,

On behalf of the SVG WG I'd like to propose adding to the ProgressEvents 
spec[1] an event equivalent to the 'loadend' (previously known as 
'SVGPostLoad') event currently defined in SVG Tiny 1.2 [2].

The 'loadend' event is dispatched by completion of a load, no matter if it was 
successful or not. In terms of the ProgressEvents spec the 'loadend' event 
would be dispatched following either of 'abort', 'load' or 'error', and there 
must be exactly one 'loadend' event dispatched. In the Event definitions table 
it would look like this:

Name: loadend
Description: The operation completed
How often?: once
When?:  Must be dispatched last



If the event were dispatched last, and there was a progress bar, plus
an overlay, then the success handler would fire before the progress
bar + overlay were hidden/removed.

Please see also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0537.html


I would be in support of adding such an event. And I agree with Garrett 
that it makes more sense to dispatch it before the load/abort/error 
event is dispatched. In fact, we could even make the default behavior of 
the loadend event be dispatching one of the above three, thus allowing 
them to be canceled by calling .preventDefault on the loadend event.


Would be interested to hear Ollis feedback given that he recently 
implemented progress events for XHR in firefox.


/ Jonas



loadend event Re: [ProgressEvents]

2008-09-08 Thread Charles McCathieNevile


On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:25:42 -0500, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Garrett Smith wrote:

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello webapps wg,

On behalf of the SVG WG I'd like to propose adding to the  
ProgressEvents spec[1] an event equivalent to the 'loadend'  
(previously known as 'SVGPostLoad') event currently defined in SVG  
Tiny 1.2 [2].


The 'loadend' event is dispatched by completion of a load, no matter  
if it was successful or not. In terms of the ProgressEvents spec the  
'loadend' event would be dispatched following either of 'abort',  
'load' or 'error', and there must be exactly one 'loadend' event  
dispatched. In the Event definitions table it would look like this:


Name: loadend
Description: The operation completed
How often?: once
When?:  Must be dispatched last


 If the event were dispatched last, and there was a progress bar, plus
an overlay, then the success handler would fire before the progress
bar + overlay were hidden/removed.
 Please see also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0537.html


I would be in support of adding such an event. And I agree with Garrett  
that it makes more sense to dispatch it before the load/abort/error  
event is dispatched. In fact, we could even make the default behavior of  
the loadend event be dispatching one of the above three, thus allowing  
them to be canceled by calling .preventDefault on the loadend event.


Would be interested to hear Ollis feedback given that he recently  
implemented progress events for XHR in firefox.


OK, I will put this into the draft (which I should post this week so we  
can try to publish it again.


Cheers

Chaals

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[xmlhttprequest2] loadend / done / ...

2008-09-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren


On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:01:47 +0200, Olli Pettay [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

The new event should be added to XHR2 too.
One thing to be clarified is that what should happen if loadend handler
restarts XHR - should load/abort/error still fire?


It would get very icky otherwise, no? That is, if load/abort/error are  
dispatched as the default action of loadend/done/..., of which I'm not  
sure it's a good idea.



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Re: [ProgressEvents]

2008-09-08 Thread Garrett Smith

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Olli Pettay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Jonas Sicking wrote:

 Garrett Smith wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello webapps wg,

 On behalf of the SVG WG I'd like to propose adding to the ProgressEvents
 spec[1] an event equivalent to the 'loadend' (previously known as
 'SVGPostLoad') event currently defined in SVG Tiny 1.2 [2].

 The 'loadend' event is dispatched by completion of a load, no matter if
 it was successful or not. In terms of the ProgressEvents spec the 'loadend'
 event would be dispatched following either of 'abort', 'load' or 'error',
 and there must be exactly one 'loadend' event dispatched. In the Event
 definitions table it would look like this:

 Name: loadend
 Description: The operation completed
 How often?: once
 When?: Must be dispatched last


 If the event were dispatched last, and there was a progress bar, plus
 an overlay, then the success handler would fire before the progress
 bar + overlay were hidden/removed.

 Please see also:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008JulSep/0537.html

 I would be in support of adding such an event. And I agree with Garrett
 that it makes more sense to dispatch it before the load/abort/error event is
 dispatched. In fact, we could even make the default behavior of the loadend
 event be dispatching one of the above three, thus allowing them to be
 canceled by calling .preventDefault on the loadend event.

 Would be interested to hear Ollis feedback given that he recently
 implemented progress events for XHR in firefox.

 / Jonas



 Sounds good to me, though I don't have strong opinion whether
 load/abort/error should be the default behavior for loadend. Maybe it is
 better to not to add any default behaviors to PE.

 The new event should be added to XHR2 too.
 One thing to be clarified is that what should happen if loadend handler
 restarts XHR - should load/abort/error still fire?

Are you asking: What if the loadend handler calls open() on the same
connection in loadend?

When loadend is called, the actual completion event (abort | fail
| load ) has not fired.

Calling open should cause the previous connection to end. Jonas
suggested that the corresponding event (abort | fail | load)
should then fire unless e.preventDefault() is called.

Just curious: Why call open() again in loadend?

I do not see a sequence of events for SVG:
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/interact.html#EventsPostload

However, I noticed this example:-

function imageLoadStart (evt) {
  progressBar.setFloatTrait(width, 0);
  var loadingAnimation = document.getElementById('loadingAnimation');
  loadingAnimation.beginElement();
}

- attempts to reference progressBar without first declaring it. The
example also makes use of an 'ev' namespace that I can't see being
declared.

http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#events__ProgressEvent_total

A working example would be great.

Garrett


 -Olli





Re: [ProgressEvents]

2008-09-08 Thread Cameron McCormack

Hi Garrett.

Garrett Smith:
 However, I noticed this example:-
 
 function imageLoadStart (evt) {
   progressBar.setFloatTrait(width, 0);
   var loadingAnimation = document.getElementById('loadingAnimation');
   loadingAnimation.beginElement();
 }
 
 - attempts to reference progressBar without first declaring it. The
 example also makes use of an 'ev' namespace that I can't see being
 declared.
 
 http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#events__ProgressEvent_total
 
 A working example would be great.

Thanks, fixed the namespace declaration and made the example complete.

  
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/master/udom.idd.diff?r1=1.246r2=1.247

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