Re: [DOM4] NodeList should be deprecated
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:06:00 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:07:31 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: The NodeList item() method is a blocker. Blocker in what way? As I've always understood it - the item() method is what differentiates NodeList from Array and blocks it from being just an array. Is this incorrect? I think there is more, such as arrays being mutable, but the suggestion was to change two accessors from mutation observers to return platform array objects rather than NodeLists, which is a change we can still make given that mutation observers is not widely deployed yet. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
Re: [DOM4] NodeList should be deprecated
On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:06:00 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:07:31 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: The NodeList item() method is a blocker. Blocker in what way? As I've always understood it - the item() method is what differentiates NodeList from Array and blocks it from being just an array. Is this incorrect? I think there is more, such as arrays being mutable, but the suggestion was to change two accessors from mutation observers to return platform array objects rather than NodeLists, which is a change we can still make given that mutation observers is not widely deployed yet. I that case, very cool. Thanks for the clarification. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
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Re: [DOM4] NodeList should be deprecated
Upon further thought, I take this suggestion back. Static NodeList as it currently exists is just an underpowered array, but that doesn't mean that's what it always has to be. In the future, we should add methods to NodeList that operate on Nodes, e.g. add a remove method to NodeList that call remove on all the Nodes in the NodeList. Also, in theory, browser may be able to optimize common cases of NodeLists (e.g. cache frequently accessed NodeLists). We should make static NodeList inherit from Array though so that you can do regular array operations on it. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:06:00 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:07:31 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: The NodeList item() method is a blocker. Blocker in what way? As I've always understood it - the item() method is what differentiates NodeList from Array and blocks it from being just an array. Is this incorrect? I think there is more, such as arrays being mutable, but the suggestion was to change two accessors from mutation observers to return platform array objects rather than NodeLists, which is a change we can still make given that mutation observers is not widely deployed yet. I that case, very cool. Thanks for the clarification. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
Re: [DOM4] NodeList should be deprecated
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Upon further thought, I take this suggestion back. Static NodeList as it currently exists is just an underpowered array, but that doesn't mean that's what it always has to be. In the future, we should add methods to NodeList that operate on Nodes, e.g. add a remove method to NodeList that call remove on all the Nodes in the NodeList. Also, in theory, browser may be able to optimize common cases of NodeLists (e.g. cache frequently accessed NodeLists). We should make static NodeList inherit from Array though so that you can do regular array operations on it. In the future, it will be incredibly easy to make a NodeList into an Array with the spread operator: [ ...NodeList ] // [ node, node, node ] Rick On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:06:00 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:07:31 +0100, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: The NodeList item() method is a blocker. Blocker in what way? As I've always understood it - the item() method is what differentiates NodeList from Array and blocks it from being just an array. Is this incorrect? I think there is more, such as arrays being mutable, but the suggestion was to change two accessors from mutation observers to return platform array objects rather than NodeLists, which is a change we can still make given that mutation observers is not widely deployed yet. I that case, very cool. Thanks for the clarification. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
Re: [DOM4] NodeList should be deprecated
Ojan Vafai: We should make static NodeList inherit from Array though so that you can do regular array operations on it. Web IDL has the means to make (all) NodeList objects inherit from Array by annotating them with [ArrayClass], if we want to do that.
