Re: CfC: publish Widgets PC as a Proposed Edited Recommendation; deadline August 28

2012-08-28 Thread Pavel Zubkou
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote:

 Please send all comments regarding this CfC to the public-webapps@w3.orgmail 
 list by August 28 and note silence will be considered as agreement
 with the proposal. If you support this CfC, a positive response is
 preferred and encouraged.


Editorial comment, Proposed Edited Recommendation references [DOMCore] in
text, but Normative References section points to [DOM3Core] which is not
used in text.

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Re: Proposal for Cascading Attribute Sheets - like CSS, but for attributes!

2012-08-28 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

On Aug 27, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 
 I have mixed feelings about this proposal overall, but I think it's a little 
 weird to use CSS property syntax instead of markup-like attribute syntax to 
 set attributes. I think this makes the syntax confusingly similar to CSS 
 even though proposed behavior is quite different. Something like this might 
 make more sense:
 
 img.placeholder {
src=/images/1x1.gif
alt=
 }
 
 In other words, make attribute setting look like attribute syntax.
 
 This is similar to the discussions about monocle-mustache in JS.  I
 prefer being able to simple re-use the existing CSS parser, but I'm
 not completely wedded to it.  I'd need some strong opinions from more
 relevant parties to switch over, though.

I doubt we would be able to actually reuse the CSS parser, at least at the code 
level, at least for WebKit. To give some examples of issues that arise:

- The CSS parser has specific knowledge of all the CSS properties we recognize 
and their value syntax. 
- It has no provision for catchall recognition of all other property names with 
a quoted string value.
- There are some CSS properties that have the same name as meaningful HTML 
attributes.

 
 And finally, I'm skeptical whether the convenience here is worth adding a 
 whole new language to the Web Platform technology stack. It is literally 
 just convenience / syntactic sugar. I'm not sure that rises to the high bar 
 needed to add an additional language to the Web Platform.
 
 Yeah, this is the major hurdle for this.  My hope is that, by reusing
 the CSS parser and restricting all the expensive parts of CSS
 (dynamicness, remembering where a value came from, etc.), I can pull
 the bar down low enough for this to make it.

I think your assumption is that it's possible to reuse the CSS parser is 
incorrect, at least for strong values of reuse.

Regards,
Maciej




Re: Push API draft update

2012-08-28 Thread Chaals McCathieNevile

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 02:00:11 +0300, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L bs3...@att.com
wrote:


Hi Art,

Can you update the Webapps Publication Status page to add Eduardo as  
co-editor of the Push API draft?


Done - you should be able to do it yourselves actually, using your normal  
W3C login credentials.


We are looking forward to feedback on this update, with the goal of  
getting to FPWD by TPAC if possible.


OK, noted.

cheers

Chaals


Thanks,
Bryan Sullivan
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From: EDUARDO FULLEA CARRERA e...@tid.es
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:48:49 +0200
To: public-webapps (public-webapps@w3.org) public-webapps@w3.org
Cc: bs3...@att.com bs3...@att.com
Message-id: 492d97b30609c54fa9ff98b847ea5682b975989...@exclu2k7.hi.inet
Hi all,

Bryan Sullivan and myself have been working together on updating the  
Push API draft based upon feedback received and the work being driven by  
Mozilla and Telefonica to build a Push solution for Firefox OS (B2G).


You can find it at:  
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/default/index.html



This update does not intend to address yet each and every comment  
received, as some may deserve further discussions, but we think is a  
good step forward. We are looking forward to receiving your feedback.


Thanks and regards,
Eduardo Fullea
Telefonica Digital


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