Re: [Pointer Lock] Comments
Thank you again:
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/rev/25ad122a8000
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM, timeless timel...@gmail.com wrote:
1. w3c is en-us
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#abstract
modelling - modeling
Done.
2. Xlib
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#h3_why-bundle-all-functionality-hiding-cursor-providing-mouse-deltas-instead-of-using-css-to-hide-the-cursor-always-providing-delta-values-and-offering-an-api-to-restrict-the-cursor-movement-to-a-portion-of-the-web-page
Direct APIs do not exist on all platforms (Win, Mac, Linux) to bound the
cursor to a specific rectangle, and prototypes have not yet been developed
to demonstrate building that behavior by e.g. invisible windows with xlib
or manual cursor movement on Mac.
Xlib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlib
Done. Linked to definition.
Also note that Mac is not a proper term, it could be Mac OS (X),
Macintosh ... or macs.
Done. Expanded to more formal names.
3. Mouse capture
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#introduction
Pointer Lock is related to Mouse Capture [MDN-SETCAPTURE].
should https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14600 be noted?
Done.
MS should probably be referenced:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms536742%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
since it's their fault...
Done.
4. a11y/i18n
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#dfn-engagement-gesture
An event generated by the user agent as a result of user interaction
intended to interact with the page. e.g. click, but not mousemove.
Engagement gestures are any events included in the definition of being
allowed to show a popup with the addition of keypress and keyup.
shift, or control+shift and similar things are often used to trigger
an assistive technology, or an IME / language switch.
https://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/access_stickykeys_settings.mspx?mfr=true
turn StickyKeys on or off by by pressing the SHIFT key five times
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/langbar_keystroke_shortcuts.mspx?mfr=true
Switch between languages or keyboard layouts CTRL+SHIFT or left ALT+SHIFT
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/97738
When you press the APOSTROPHE (') key, QUOTATION MARK () key, ACCENT
GRAVE (`) key, TILDE (~) key, ACCENT CIRCUMFLEX key, or CARET (^) key,
nothing appears on the screen until you press the a second key. If you
press one of the letters designated as eligible to receive an accent mark,
the accented version of the letter appears. If you press an ineligible key,
two separate characters appear. In other words, the US-International
keyboard layout dynamic-link library (DLL) automatically accents letters
that customarily receive an accent but does not automatically accent
letters that do not customarily receive an accent.
While it's nice to allow for keys to trigger a lock, keys that may
eventually be handled by something outside the UA should probably not be
eligible for this.
Done.
user interaction intended to interact - user interaction processed by
the user agent
Added: Note that operating system level accessibility and
internationalization features may intercept gestures before the user agent
processes them for interaction with a page. E.g. multiple key press codes
used to enter an extended international character.
5. must
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#pointerlockchange-and-pointerlockerror-events
Two events are used to communicate pointer lock state change or an error
in changing state. They are named pointerlockchange and pointerlockerror.
If pointer lock is entered or exited for any reason a pointerlockchange
event must be sent.
If I press ctrl-w/cmd-w (close window/tab), is the UA required to send
these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent removes the iframe from the
dom, is the UA required to send these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent changes the iframe's document
url to another page, is the UA required to send these events?
Help me pin down language. For each case above: Yes, If the document exists
the events should be dispatched. Is more language needed to avoid the
alternative implied assumption that a document must live until the events
are dispatched?
6. and
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
(for example: mousemove, mousedown, mouseup, click, wheel)
(for example: mouseover, mouseout, drag, drop).
Done.
Please use and -- you do elsewhere:
clientX, clientY, screenX, and screenY
7. movement/focus
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
Movement and button presses of
Re: [Pointer Lock] Comments
Thank you for the detailed comments, I will incorporate and reply back.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM, timeless timel...@gmail.com wrote:
1. w3c is en-us
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#abstract
modelling - modeling
2. Xlib
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#h3_why-bundle-all-functionality-hiding-cursor-providing-mouse-deltas-instead-of-using-css-to-hide-the-cursor-always-providing-delta-values-and-offering-an-api-to-restrict-the-cursor-movement-to-a-portion-of-the-web-page
Direct APIs do not exist on all platforms (Win, Mac, Linux) to bound the
cursor to a specific rectangle, and prototypes have not yet been developed
to demonstrate building that behavior by e.g. invisible windows with xlib
or manual cursor movement on Mac.
Xlib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlib
Also note that Mac is not a proper term, it could be Mac OS (X),
Macintosh ... or macs.
3. Mouse capture
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#introduction
Pointer Lock is related to Mouse Capture [MDN-SETCAPTURE].
should https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14600 be noted?
MS should probably be referenced:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms536742%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
since it's their fault...
4. a11y/i18n
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#dfn-engagement-gesture
An event generated by the user agent as a result of user interaction
intended to interact with the page. e.g. click, but not mousemove.
Engagement gestures are any events included in the definition of being
allowed to show a popup with the addition of keypress and keyup.
shift, or control+shift and similar things are often used to trigger
an assistive technology, or an IME / language switch.
https://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/access_stickykeys_settings.mspx?mfr=true
turn StickyKeys on or off by by pressing the SHIFT key five times
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/langbar_keystroke_shortcuts.mspx?mfr=true
Switch between languages or keyboard layouts CTRL+SHIFT or left ALT+SHIFT
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/97738
When you press the APOSTROPHE (') key, QUOTATION MARK () key, ACCENT
GRAVE (`) key, TILDE (~) key, ACCENT CIRCUMFLEX key, or CARET (^) key,
nothing appears on the screen until you press the a second key. If you
press one of the letters designated as eligible to receive an accent mark,
the accented version of the letter appears. If you press an ineligible key,
two separate characters appear. In other words, the US-International
keyboard layout dynamic-link library (DLL) automatically accents letters
that customarily receive an accent but does not automatically accent
letters that do not customarily receive an accent.
While it's nice to allow for keys to trigger a lock, keys that may
eventually be handled by something outside the UA should probably not be
eligible for this.
5. must
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#pointerlockchange-and-pointerlockerror-events
Two events are used to communicate pointer lock state change or an error
in changing state. They are named pointerlockchange and pointerlockerror.
If pointer lock is entered or exited for any reason a pointerlockchange
event must be sent.
If I press ctrl-w/cmd-w (close window/tab), is the UA required to send
these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent removes the iframe from the
dom, is the UA required to send these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent changes the iframe's document
url to another page, is the UA required to send these events?
6. and
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
(for example: mousemove, mousedown, mouseup, click, wheel)
(for example: mouseover, mouseout, drag, drop).
Please use and -- you do elsewhere:
clientX, clientY, screenX, and screenY
7. movement/focus
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
Movement and button presses of the mouse must not cause the window to
lose focus.
Suppose I'm using Windows w/ a standard 104 key keyboard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_keyboard#mediaviewer/File:Qwerty.svg
If I press a system key (the Windows key), or a system key equivalent
stroke (ctrl+esc), I expect the application to lose focus.
http://developer.android.com/design/media/whats_new_nav_bar.png
If I press the home key on an Android device, I expect the window to lose
focus.
If a user is on a system where there is no hardware home button, but there
is a gesture which enables interacting with the system, the UA shouldn't be
out of compliance.
see Fast Quick Settings Access --
[Pointer Lock] Comments
1. w3c is en-us
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#abstract
modelling - modeling
2. Xlib
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#h3_why-bundle-all-functionality-hiding-cursor-providing-mouse-deltas-instead-of-using-css-to-hide-the-cursor-always-providing-delta-values-and-offering-an-api-to-restrict-the-cursor-movement-to-a-portion-of-the-web-page
Direct APIs do not exist on all platforms (Win, Mac, Linux) to bound the
cursor to a specific rectangle, and prototypes have not yet been developed
to demonstrate building that behavior by e.g. invisible windows with xlib
or manual cursor movement on Mac.
Xlib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlib
Also note that Mac is not a proper term, it could be Mac OS (X),
Macintosh ... or macs.
3. Mouse capture
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#introduction
Pointer Lock is related to Mouse Capture [MDN-SETCAPTURE].
should https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14600 be noted?
MS should probably be referenced:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms536742%28v=vs.85%29.aspx since
it's their fault...
4. a11y/i18n
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#dfn-engagement-gesture
An event generated by the user agent as a result of user interaction
intended to interact with the page. e.g. click, but not mousemove.
Engagement gestures are any events included in the definition of being
allowed to show a popup with the addition of keypress and keyup.
shift, or control+shift and similar things are often used to trigger an
assistive technology, or an IME / language switch.
https://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/access_stickykeys_settings.mspx?mfr=true
turn StickyKeys on or off by by pressing the SHIFT key five times
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/langbar_keystroke_shortcuts.mspx?mfr=true
Switch between languages or keyboard layouts CTRL+SHIFT or left ALT+SHIFT
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/97738
When you press the APOSTROPHE (') key, QUOTATION MARK () key, ACCENT
GRAVE (`) key, TILDE (~) key, ACCENT CIRCUMFLEX key, or CARET (^) key,
nothing appears on the screen until you press the a second key. If you
press one of the letters designated as eligible to receive an accent mark,
the accented version of the letter appears. If you press an ineligible key,
two separate characters appear. In other words, the US-International
keyboard layout dynamic-link library (DLL) automatically accents letters
that customarily receive an accent but does not automatically accent
letters that do not customarily receive an accent.
While it's nice to allow for keys to trigger a lock, keys that may
eventually be handled by something outside the UA should probably not be
eligible for this.
5. must
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#pointerlockchange-and-pointerlockerror-events
Two events are used to communicate pointer lock state change or an error
in changing state. They are named pointerlockchange and pointerlockerror.
If pointer lock is entered or exited for any reason a pointerlockchange
event must be sent.
If I press ctrl-w/cmd-w (close window/tab), is the UA required to send
these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent removes the iframe from the
dom, is the UA required to send these events?
If an iframe has pointerlock, and its parent changes the iframe's document
url to another page, is the UA required to send these events?
6. and
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
(for example: mousemove, mousedown, mouseup, click, wheel)
(for example: mouseover, mouseout, drag, drop).
Please use and -- you do elsewhere:
clientX, clientY, screenX, and screenY
7. movement/focus
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#widl-Element-requestPointerLock-void
Movement and button presses of the mouse must not cause the window to
lose focus.
Suppose I'm using Windows w/ a standard 104 key keyboard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_keyboard#mediaviewer/File:Qwerty.svg
If I press a system key (the Windows key), or a system key equivalent
stroke (ctrl+esc), I expect the application to lose focus.
http://developer.android.com/design/media/whats_new_nav_bar.png
If I press the home key on an Android device, I expect the window to lose
focus.
If a user is on a system where there is no hardware home button, but there
is a gesture which enables interacting with the system, the UA shouldn't be
out of compliance.
see Fast Quick Settings Access --
http://blogs.blackberry.com/2014/05/planned-new-features/
8. comma comma
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pointerlock/raw-file/ea789b4e5b82/index.html#attributes
onpointerlockchange of type EventHandler, , nullable
the extra comma here is not
