Re: [websockets] Seeking comments on moving back to CR; deadline June 28

2012-06-29 Thread Julian Reschke

On 2012-06-29 05:55, Arthur Barstow wrote:

On 6/21/12 4:53 PM, ext Julian Reschke wrote:

On 2012-06-21 16:28, Arthur Barstow wrote:

...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0880.html
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This is an editorial bug and is already captured in Bug 12510. Ideally,
this bug would be fixed before the v1 CR branch is created. However, if
Hixie can't fix it before then and if no one else creates an acceptable
patch for Hixie, I don't support blocking the v1 CR for this.
...


I disagree that this is editorial.


Yes I agree that editorial wasn't a particularly good characterization
of bug 12510.



Without proper references the spec simply is incomplete.



Now that we have the URL spec in /TR/, it seems like that spec just
needs to be added as a reference.


That's necessary but not sufficient. When spec A references spec B, it 
should be obvious from the text; right now it is not.


Best regards, Julian



Re: [websockets] Seeking comments on moving back to CR; deadline June 28

2012-06-28 Thread Arthur Barstow

On 6/21/12 4:53 PM, ext Julian Reschke wrote:

On 2012-06-21 16:28, Arthur Barstow wrote:

...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0880.html 
-

This is an editorial bug and is already captured in Bug 12510. Ideally,
this bug would be fixed before the v1 CR branch is created. However, if
Hixie can't fix it before then and if no one else creates an acceptable
patch for Hixie, I don't support blocking the v1 CR for this.
...


I disagree that this is editorial. 


Yes I agree that editorial wasn't a particularly good characterization 
of bug 12510.




Without proper references the spec simply is incomplete.



Now that we have the URL spec in /TR/, it seems like that spec just 
needs to be added as a reference.


-AB




[websockets] Seeking comments on moving back to CR; deadline June 28

2012-06-21 Thread Arthur Barstow

Hi All,

I created a tracking document for the two comments and five bugs that 
were submitted against the 24 May LCWD of Web Sockets (or in the 
approximate time frame of that publication): 
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Websockets-Comments-LC-24May2012.


Below is my take on these bugs and comments. It would be good to get 
this spec back to CR and hence closer toward the IP commitments that 
will only be final when the spec reaches Recommendation.


Bugs:

* 17073 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17073 - marked 
as an Enhancement; don't include in the v1 CR


* 17224 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17224 - this 
looks like an Editorial bug to me as I stated in the bug. Assuming there 
is consensus the text should be unsolicited pongs, if Hixie can't fix 
this before the v1 CR copy is created, I'll make this change in the v1 CR.


* 17262 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 - Jonas' 
view as expressed in 
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17262#c13 seems 
reasonable so I propose closing this with a resolution of WorksForMe.


* 17263 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17263 - 
send(ArrayBuffer), which was included in the December 2011 CR, has been 
implemented and presumably must be supported by some browsers (e.g. 
bc/legacy reasons). As such, it seems reasonable to fix this bug and 
perhaps we could argue a new LCWD is not needed since it has already 
been implemented.


* 17264 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17264 - this 
bug appears to be a rehash of bug 13104 which was Fixed in October 2011 
so I propose closing this with a resolution of Duplicate.


Comments:

* LC-1 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0807.html - 
The 28-May-2012 reply by Takeshi Yoshino notes this is a Chrome bug and 
not a spec bug. The 1-June-2012 reply by Simon Pieters indicates the 
Protocol spec needs to be updated. As such, I don't think any changes 
are needed for v1 of the spec.


* LC-2 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0880.html - 
This is an editorial bug and is already captured in Bug 12510. Ideally, 
this bug would be fixed before the v1 CR branch is created. However, if 
Hixie can't fix it before then and if no one else creates an acceptable 
patch for Hixie, I don't support blocking the v1 CR for this.


Please send all comments by June 28.

-Thanks, AB




Re: [websockets] Seeking comments on moving back to CR; deadline June 28

2012-06-21 Thread Julian Reschke

On 2012-06-21 16:28, Arthur Barstow wrote:

...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012AprJun/0880.html -
This is an editorial bug and is already captured in Bug 12510. Ideally,
this bug would be fixed before the v1 CR branch is created. However, if
Hixie can't fix it before then and if no one else creates an acceptable
patch for Hixie, I don't support blocking the v1 CR for this.
...


I disagree that this is editorial. Without proper references the spec 
simply is incomplete.


If you disagree, please walk me through how a reader is supposed to find 
out what absolute URL or resolve the URL string means.


Best regards, Julian