HTML Editing APIs is already in scope [Was: Re: Draft Minutes: 31 October 2011 f2f meeting]

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is a followup on the short discussion we had on October 31 re the 
HTML Editing APIs ...


On 11/1/11 10:05 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
The DRAFT minutes from the October 31 f2f meeting are in the following 
document and copied below:


http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html

12. [16]Charter/Editing


http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html#item12



Charter/Editing

   ArtB: I know Aryeh was working on Editing
   ... but he didn't make a commitment
   ... do we let him continue working in the CG
   ... do we pick it up now, pick it up later?

   ryosuke: i'd like to see it in the charter

   ArtB: aryeh felt that having it in a CG to do work forward
   ... but he didn't object to this WG finalizing it

   chaals: in the absence of someone driving it in Web Apps
   ... I think it would be a bad idea
   ... especially without the resources

   Josh_Soref: How is this any different from the previous charter
   item?

smaug  #whatwg: AryehGregor Microsoft Corp. has joined the HTML
   Editing APIs Community Group

   chaals: I am proposing that we reject Editing APIs under similar
   circumstances
   ... given that there is a CG
   ... I feel we should let them alone given they already have a CG and
   we aren't likely to add much

   ryosuke: there's a difference in complexity
   ... Editing is much more complicated
   ... I think it will take a couple of years before it's ready

   adrianba: Microsoft just joined the CG with the intent of helping it
   there

   chaals: does anyone propose that we move editing into the WG?

   RESOLUTION: We will not move Editing into this WG


The following part of the charter does make the HTML Editing APIs in 
scope for WebApps:


[[
http://www.w3.org/2010/webapps/charter/#others

Specifically, because of the close relationship of the WebApps WG and 
the HTML WG in terms of participants, market, and community, the WebApps 
WG may opt to take on a limited number of specifications which were 
initially part of the HTML5 specification that have been split off for 
more general use with other languages.

]]

My summary is: although HTML Editing APIs is in scope for WebApps, and 
we agreed to use public-webapps for related discussions [1], given no 
one has agreed to actively drive the spec in WebApps, we will not 
include it as an explicit deliverable in WebApps' charter update. If 
anyone disagrees with this summary, please speak up.


-AB

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/1617.html






Re: HTML Editing APIs is already in scope [Was: Re: Draft Minutes: 31 October 2011 f2f meeting]

2011-11-08 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
 My summary is: although HTML Editing APIs is in scope for WebApps, and we
 agreed to use public-webapps for related discussions [1], given no one has
 agreed to actively drive the spec in WebApps, we will not include it as an
 explicit deliverable in WebApps' charter update. If anyone disagrees with
 this summary, please speak up.

I think this situation is ideal for the time being.



Re: Draft Minutes: 31 October 2011 f2f meeting

2011-11-01 Thread timeless
There are a couple of instances where the scribe.pl script broke and
s///'s appear. Also because of that, there are a number of times when
'scribe:' appears as a speaker, with the former resolved, most of
these should disappear.

Lastly, due to autocompletion, there's a third scribe listed
(JonathanJ), please redact as it was an error -- sorry.