Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:24:47 +0100, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 12/17/2011 04:30 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:08:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: All - What are the opinions on what, if anything, to do with XBL2 vis-a-vis the charter update? Leave it on the REC track, stop work and publish it as a WG Note, something else? I would leave it as, but add a note we might abandon it at some point in favor of Components. No need to make an early call on that. That sounds good to me. Yeah, in drafting the new charter I think that is the approach I took. I'll check again when we have figured out what teh story is with things people wanted but needed to provide more info for... cheers Chaals -- Charles 'chaals' McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg kan litt norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:08:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: All - What are the opinions on what, if anything, to do with XBL2 vis-a-vis the charter update? Leave it on the REC track, stop work and publish it as a WG Note, something else? I would leave it as, but add a note we might abandon it at some point in favor of Components. No need to make an early call on that. [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
On 12/17/2011 04:30 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:08:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: All - What are the opinions on what, if anything, to do with XBL2 vis-a-vis the charter update? Leave it on the REC track, stop work and publish it as a WG Note, something else? I would leave it as, but add a note we might abandon it at some point in favor of Components. No need to make an early call on that. That sounds good to me. -Olli [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed
Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
On 11/23/11 1:10 PM, ext Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Let's iterate and get it to the digestible point :) Thanks for the list. Given we consider Web Components already in scope, I added it to the Additions Agreed section as a reminder it should be an explicit deliverable [1]. I expect that Web Components will completely supersed the XBL2 work and address all of the use cases that originally motivated development of XBL2. All - What are the opinions on what, if anything, to do with XBL2 vis-a-vis the charter update? Leave it on the REC track, stop work and publish it as a WG Note, something else? -AB [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed
XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
Hi All, In the context of WebApps' rechartering, what are our plans and expectations for XBL2 and Component modeling? For example, what do we want to stop (e.g. move to WG Note); are there any new deliverable(s) we want to add? (I just noticed we are coming up on five years since the XBL2 CR was published.) -AB On 11/8/11 12:37 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I created the following doc: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges My expectation is that Doug will this information when he drafts our updated charter. Comments on this doc and our future charter welcome. However, if we are going to add any new deliverables, I think there should be broad agreement on the spec, including prior commitment to drive the spec through all of the phases of the process including testing and implementations. Chaals, IanF - I included some actions/questions for you (mostly recorded at the f2f meeting). -AB [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/webapps/charter/
Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]
Hi Arthur! I am a procedural n00b and apologize in advance if this is not exactly what you're looking for. Let's iterate and get it to the digestible point :) In the next few months, I'll be working on and refining (with the help of folks who are interested in the subject): 1) a detailed spec (I think it's called a working draft) for Web Components; 2) a Web Components explainer document, aimed at Web developers, outlining how the component model works in conversational prose and examples; 3) a comprehensive overview of goals, use cases, properties, reasoning, and methodology behind the component model. I expect that Web Components will completely supersed the XBL2 work and address all of the use cases that originally motivated development of XBL2. All work is currently happening at http://dglazkov.github.com/component-model/ and http://wiki.whatwg.org/index.php?title=Component_Model. As long as it doesn't slow me down, I am happy to adopt any procedural conventions or places to work in -- if it's helpful in making WebApps WG more coherent and beautiful. :DG On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Hi All, In the context of WebApps' rechartering, what are our plans and expectations for XBL2 and Component modeling? For example, what do we want to stop (e.g. move to WG Note); are there any new deliverable(s) we want to add? (I just noticed we are coming up on five years since the XBL2 CR was published.) -AB On 11/8/11 12:37 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I created the following doc: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges My expectation is that Doug will this information when he drafts our updated charter. Comments on this doc and our future charter welcome. However, if we are going to add any new deliverables, I think there should be broad agreement on the spec, including prior commitment to drive the spec through all of the phases of the process including testing and implementations. Chaals, IanF - I included some actions/questions for you (mostly recorded at the f2f meeting). -AB [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/webapps/charter/
