Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] User-hostile obfuscation in PulseAudio Volume Control is a real pain.
On 22.07.2017 11:59, Georg Chini wrote: On 22.07.2017 11:37, Erik Christiansen wrote: Hi, Debian 9.0.0 comes with pulseaudio 10.0, so it's not likely that fixes for the problem are in the wild yet, I figure. Even when a Debian 9.0.0 box is connected to a HDMI monitor, PulseAudio Volume Control displays only 3 of its 5 tabs, supressing the vital Configuration tab, needed for switching audio output to HDMI. Depriving the user of knowledge of the availability of the Configuration tab, by burying it under two levels of blind hammering on a tiny inscrutable icon in the corner is a monstrous disservice to the user, and a rather weird design decision. Much space is wasted in the width of the 3 displayed tabs, and on many a screen there is at least half a yard of screen width spare for the other 2 tabs. discuss Hi Erik, I don't really understand. Are you talking about pavucontrol when you are saying "PulseAudio Volume Control"? As far as I know, pavucontol always displays 5 tabs, the configuration is one of them and there is no option to suppress any of the tabs. If this is different in your distribution or you are not talking about pavucontrol, the pulseaudio mailing list is the wrong place to complain. You have to go back to the maintainers of your distribution. (Although I am running Debian unstable and pavucontrol there displays all 5 tabs, so I understand your complain even less.) Regards Georg (There is a "t" missing above ...) I've just seen there is a pavucontrol-qt package. Maybe you are using that. From https://github.com/lxde/pavucontrol-qt: "The software belongs to the LXQt project but its usage isn't limited to this desktop environment." So you may have to ask them to change the behavior. ___ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss
Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] User-hostile obfuscation in PulseAudio Volume Control is a real pain.
On 22.07.2017 11:37, Erik Christiansen wrote: Hi, Debian 9.0.0 comes with pulseaudio 10.0, so it's not likely that fixes for the problem are in the wild yet, I figure. Even when a Debian 9.0.0 box is connected to a HDMI monitor, PulseAudio Volume Control displays only 3 of its 5 tabs, supressing the vital Configuration tab, needed for switching audio output to HDMI. Depriving the user of knowledge of the availability of the Configuration tab, by burying it under two levels of blind hammering on a tiny inscrutable icon in the corner is a monstrous disservice to the user, and a rather weird design decision. Much space is wasted in the width of the 3 displayed tabs, and on many a screen there is at least half a yard of screen width spare for the other 2 tabs. discuss Hi Erik, I don't really understand. Are you talking about pavucontrol when you are saying "PulseAudio Volume Control"? As far as I know, pavucontol always displays 5 tabs, the configuration is one of them and there is no option to suppress any of the tabs. If this is different in your distribution or you are not talking about pavucontrol, the pulseaudio mailing list is the wrong place to complain. You have to go back to the maintainers of your distribution. (Although I am running Debian unstable and pavucontrol there displays all 5 tabs, so I understand your complain even less.) Regards Georg ___ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss
[pulseaudio-discuss] User-hostile obfuscation in PulseAudio Volume Control is a real pain.
Hi, Debian 9.0.0 comes with pulseaudio 10.0, so it's not likely that fixes for the problem are in the wild yet, I figure. Even when a Debian 9.0.0 box is connected to a HDMI monitor, PulseAudio Volume Control displays only 3 of its 5 tabs, supressing the vital Configuration tab, needed for switching audio output to HDMI. Depriving the user of knowledge of the availability of the Configuration tab, by burying it under two levels of blind hammering on a tiny inscrutable icon in the corner is a monstrous disservice to the user, and a rather weird design decision. Much space is wasted in the width of the 3 displayed tabs, and on many a screen there is at least half a yard of screen width spare for the other 2 tabs. I've now cracked the secret code, but enquiries on other lists elicited no-one else who had. I'm merely a little myopic - others have far less acute eyesight with which to recognise the triangular flyspecks. I understand that a GUI is a device to put facilities at the end of long maze runs, but seriously, TWO levels of blind wall punching at the end of that, to dig out access to the unnecessarily hidden function? If all 5 tabs were to be displayed, then it would be a service to users, and a sign that the pulseaudio design takes usability into account in the design process. Please understand that users do not know that the control is secreted in an obfuscated PulseAudio Volume Control, and so end up scouring all interfaces, GUI and command-line, plus the internet, in the process of discovery. Your power to waste humanity's time is significant. Erik ___ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list pulseaudio-discuss@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss
