Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper commented on FACT-2838 Re: Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) The one unresolved issue in this ticket is to add a group of volatile facts which is something that is already possible today, so I'm going to close this. If you'd like to contribute a pull request to add a predefined volatile fact group, then please reopen and let us know when you've submitted the PR. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.11#820011-sha1:0629dd8) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.9046.1682543100490%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Ciprian Badescu updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Ciprian Badescu Sprint: ghost-28.10, ghost-4.11, ghost-11.11, ghost 25.11, ghost-2.12 , ready for triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.13.2#813002-sha1:c495a97) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.159221.1634720160048%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sub-team: ghost Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.13.2#813002-sha1:c495a97) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.69624.1625034660028%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ghost-28.10, ghost-4.11, ghost-11.11, ghost 25.11, ghost-2.12 , ready for triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.89301.1606894800420%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ghost-28.10, ghost-4.11, ghost-11.11, ghost 25.11 , ready for triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.86582.1606313040945%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ghost-28.10, ghost-4.11, ghost-11.11 , ready for triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.81944.1605707400564%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ghost-28.10, ghost-4.11 , PR - Triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.71300.1604499060157%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ghost-28.10 , PR - Triage 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.66052.1603894200212%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title
Bogdan Irimie commented on FACT-2838
Re: Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Tested on ubuntu 20.04 with no fact blocked
facter system_uptime
{
days => 0,
hours => 3,
seconds => 14183,
uptime => "3:56 hours"
}
with system_uptime blocked
facter -c facter.conf system_uptime
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title
Bogdan Irimie commented on FACT-2838
Re: Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Tested `system_uptime` blocking on macOS 10.15 when no facts are blocked
facter -c facter.conf system_uptime
{
days => 7,
hours => 170,
seconds => 613197,
uptime => "7 days"
}
when the block list you provided is used
blocklist : [ "load_averages", "identity", "memory.system.capacity", "memory.system.used*", "memory.system.available*", "memory.swap.capacity", "memory.swap.used*", "memory.swap.available*", "system_uptime", "processors.speed" ],
bundle exec facter -c facter.conf system_uptime
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie commented on FACT-2838 Re: Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Lukas Zapletal I think there are 3 different issues here: `system_uptime` or 'uptime' facts cannot be blocked (bug) cpu speed should report manufacturer CPU speed not current speed (bug/suggestion) removal/replacement of some ephemeral facts (suggestion) Did I understand correctly? Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.64810.1603806480050%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ready for triage ghost-28.10 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.60180.1603287960288%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Story Points: 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.60157.1603287600024%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Facter / FACT-2838 Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload) Change By: Bogdan Irimie Issue Type: Bug Task Priority: Normal Low Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.375143.160283799.60156.1603287540144%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
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Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
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Jira (FACT-2838) Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Title: Message Title
Lukas Zapletal created an issue
Facter / FACT-2838
Some facts are volatile (changes almost every fact upload)
Issue Type:
Bug
Assignee:
Unassigned
Created:
2020/10/16 1:46 AM
Priority:
Normal
Reporter:
Lukas Zapletal
Hello, Some facts are volatile, they change quite often and I doubt about their value in the inventory as Facter should not be used as a "monitoring tool". Most of them can be blocklisted in facter4, which is a great feature, however I've identified few which probably needs an "stable" alternative. I was able to identify the following facts: ``` load_averages: 15m: 0.57 1m: 0.34 5m: 0.47 ``` This is straight-up not a good fact for a configuration management inventory. But you probably don't want to break facter so let's just blocklist it. ``` memory: swap: available: 33.00 GiB available_bytes: 35433476096 capacity: 0.00% used: "0 bytes" used_bytes: 0 system: available: 23.70 GiB available_bytes: 25444986880 capacity: 13.77% used: 4.31 GiB used_bytes: 4627849216 ``` The same case, the only interesting ones are "totals". These change every fact upload, can be blocklisted too. Unfortunately, here is one that cannot be blocklisted: ``` system_uptime: days: 0 hours: 1 seconds: 5058 uptime: "1:24 hours" ``` The correct approach would be to report something like "boot_time" in UTC which can be easily used to calculate uptime for humans. Adding such fact would greatly help. The last one I was able to identify on my system was: ``` processors: models: speed: 1.38 GHz ``` My CPU has variable speed depending on load. Facter reports current speed which is not much useful, I think this might be actually a bug. Usually you want to see number of CPUs, model, cores and clock information to plan deployments accordingly. So here it is, my analysis showed that two facts (uptime and processor speed) needs to be fixed. To remain backward compatibility these probably needs some alternatives and users could be instructed to blocklist the original ones if they don't want to put too much database stress on their inventory databases. For the record, here is the full blocklist: ``` facts : { blocklist : [ "load_averages", "identity", "memory.system.capacity", "memo
