Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Kylo Ginsberg commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Agreed on repurposing this ticket assuming we settle on something like the above. If we do repurpose the ticket, let's also adjust the summary and description - as it stands, the summary wouldn't mean much to someone skimming release notes. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Henrik Lindberg commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Mark Butcher The PR 268 was reopened without any description of why - now this ticket (HI-374) was also reopened. In the PR I commented: Looks like there is a chance this change will break someone that makes use of these defaults. Note that Hiera is a freestanding project and therefore anything that has to do with hiera as used with puppet has to be configured at the puppet end. (no, this is not great). And you then decided to close the PR. Mark Butcher What changed now wrt that PR? When I read this ticket, I think (based on Eric Sorenson's input that we should just change the config file in the next hiera version so that it has sane content). Since it will not overwrite anything when installing it with puppet it should not cause any breakage when used as intended. Have to look if there is another ticket for that - otherwise I suggest repurposing this ticket. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Thomas Hallgren assigned an issue to Henrik Lindberg Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Thomas Hallgren Assignee: Thomas Hallgren Henrik Lindberg Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper assigned an issue to Thomas Hallgren Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Josh Cooper Assignee: Josh Cooper Thomas Hallgren Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Kylo Ginsberg updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Kylo Ginsberg Sprint: Language 2015-06-10 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Kylo Ginsberg updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Kylo Ginsberg Story Points: 2 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Just reopened hiera PR 268 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Owen Rodabaugh commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Eric Sorenson I was not aware noreplace was an option based on the ticket description, agreed that explicitly dropping a config file on initial install and then not clobbering it on upgrade would be the best option. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
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Eric Sorenson commented on HI-374
Re: configure hiera to work out of the box
I think if "work out of the box" means "make the default settings invisible because there's no config file", that is actually a worse user experience because there's no discoverability; it errs on the side of implicit magic.
The default config ought to be more realistic and in line with best-practices, which (based on other discussion) looks like it should be:
---
:backends:
- yaml
:hierarchy:
- "certname/%{clientcert}"
- common
:yaml:
:datadir: "/etc/puppetlabs/code/environments/%{environment}/hieradata"
I don't understand the confusion around the h
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Owen Rodabaugh updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Owen Rodabaugh CS Priority: Needs Priority Major Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Nick Walker updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Nick Walker CS Priority: Needs Priority Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Henrik Lindberg commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Ping Eric Sorenson If the suggested solution is to remove the existing configuration file in favor of an internal in memory with the same content, while there is an external file named hiera.yaml.example that users can rename - then IMO it could be considered to be backwards compatible (which saves us the trouble of making a major release of Hiera. Still we did not really plan to do a hiera release for SG. This seems important enough to include. Need input on prioritization. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Henrik Lindberg updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Henrik Lindberg Presently, hiera is not configured to work out of the box with puppet for several reasons: - hiera should be maintained as a standalone project- hiera requires a config file to be in place to start- we include the config file from the hiera project in the puppet packageLeading to the following unfortunate results: - the config file used by hiera after the puppet package is installed is not useful for configuring puppet, requiring upfront effort from users (pe or foss). This also becomes a CS burden (captured in PE-894) .- persistence of hiera.yaml customization is complicated by overwrites of hiera.yaml on package installationA potential two part solution would solve the problems above: - [~josh] proposed a modification to hiera to allow it to run without a config file.- we could package a usable hiera.yaml.example file that could serve as a real world example for hiera-only users and a springboard for users of hiera with puppet. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher assigned an issue to Josh Cooper Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Mark Butcher Assignee: Mark Butcher Josh Cooper Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Description added. I'm not sure why the pr is marked [DO NOT MERGE], maybe Josh Cooper can shed some light on that? Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Mark Butcher Presently, hiera is not configured to work out of the box with puppet for several reasons: - hiera should be maintained as a standalone project- hiera requires a config file to be in place to start- we include the config file from the hiera project in the puppet packageLeading to the following unfortunate results: - the config file used by hiera after the puppet package is installed is not useful for configuring puppet, requiring upfront effort from users (pe or foss). This also becomes a CS burden (captured in PE-894).- persistence of hiera.yaml customization is complicated by overwrites of hiera.yaml on package installationA potential two part solution would solve the problems above: - [~josh] proposed a modification to hiera to allow it to run without a config file.- we could package a usable hiera.yaml.example file that could serve as a real world example for hiera-only users and a springboard for users of hiera with puppet. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Henrik Lindberg assigned an issue to Mark Butcher Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Henrik Lindberg Assignee: Henrik Lindberg Mark Butcher Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Henrik Lindberg commented on HI-374 Re: configure hiera to work out of the box Can this be updated with a description? Also, the linked PR in question is currently marked [DO NOT MERGE]. What is the intended target for this fix? 4.2.0 ? I like the principle of using a default in code if hiera.yaml does not exist and that we ship a hiera.yaml.example. It should have comments in it to explain that it can be copied to hiera.yaml and then configured. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher assigned an issue to Henrik Lindberg Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Mark Butcher Assignee: Kylo Ginsberg Henrik Lindberg Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher assigned an issue to Kylo Ginsberg Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Mark Butcher Assignee: Mark Butcher Kylo Ginsberg Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (HI-374) configure hiera to work out of the box
Title: Message Title Mark Butcher updated an issue Hiera / HI-374 configure hiera to work out of the box Change By: Mark Butcher Summary: path changes in configure hiera .yaml to work out of the box Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.15#6346-sha1:dbc023d) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
