Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Ciprian Badescu updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Ciprian Badescu Epic Link: PUP-11365 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.13.2#813002-sha1:c495a97) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.9267.1637151780215%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Ciprian Badescu updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Ciprian Badescu Sprint: ready for triage Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.13.2#813002-sha1:c495a97) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.9268.1637151780261%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper commented on PUP-5823 Re: Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs The issue of splay and startup times is PUP-10860. This issue is specifically about how Windows agents handle splay different than Linux. Related this to, is how agents should behave when they receive a 503. Currently Linux agents return to their original schedule (see PUP-9563). So whatever changes are made for this should be done with thundering herds in mind. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.134858.1612558860040%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: ready for triage Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.72409.1604566321427%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Bogdan Irimie updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Bogdan Irimie Sprint: Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.72338.1604566261079%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Jarret Lavallee updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Jarret Lavallee CS Priority: Needs Priority Reviewed Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.5793.1596148920027%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Jarret Lavallee updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Jarret Lavallee CS Priority: Needs Priority Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.102827.1594223640243%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kevin Reeuwijk commented on PUP-5823 Re: Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs This issue causes runtimes to get reported as abnormal for Windows runs, see attached screenshot. When looker deeper at the metrics, the "Agent startup time (sec)" erroneously includes the splay wait time. The actual puppet run took a normal amount of seconds, but in the higher level reporting this is no longer visible. Especially on Windows, long agent runs are important to spot. Windows patching can cause a long puppet run, so when I first saw these long runtimes, I was worried all my nodes were continuously re-applying patches or something. With the current state, the agent runtime metric becomes completely useless, and will admins to disable splay. Please look at fixing this issue as we get more Windows customers. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.81284.1591639080089%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kevin Reeuwijk updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Kevin Reeuwijk Attachment: agent_startup_time.png Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.81278.1591638840200%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kevin Reeuwijk updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Kevin Reeuwijk Attachment: runtimes_windows.png Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.5.2#805002-sha1:a66f935) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-bugs/JIRA.115341.1454671876000.81277.1591638840146%40Atlassian.JIRA.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kevin Parry commented on PUP-5823 Re: Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Hi Has any attempt been made to resolve this issue? Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.7.1#77002-sha1:e75ca93) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Branan Riley updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Branan Riley Labels: service daemon triaged windows windows-parity Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.7.1#77002-sha1:e75ca93) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Geoff Nichols updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Geoff Nichols Labels: service windows Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.7.1#77002-sha1:e75ca93) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper assigned an issue to Unassigned Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Josh Cooper Assignee: Daniel Lu Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.14#64029-sha1:ae256fe) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Josh Cooper Labels: triaged windows Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.14#64029-sha1:ae256fe) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kenaz Kwa updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Kenaz Kwa Team: Agent & Platform Support Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Craig Gomes assigned an issue to Daniel Lu Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Craig Gomes Assignee: Daniel Lu Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Craig Gomes updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Craig Gomes Labels: windows wintern Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Rob Reynolds updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Rob Reynolds Labels: windows wintern Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Glenn Sarti updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Glenn Sarti Labels: wintern Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Kylo Ginsberg assigned an issue to Unassigned Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Kylo Ginsberg Assignee: Kylo Ginsberg Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Glenn Sarti commented on PUP-5823 Re: Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Copying Josh's comment... In 2.7-3.1, splay behaved the same on windows and *nix in that splay would vary every agent run. The behavior was changed on *nix in 3.2.0 for https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/14766. As part of that change, runinterval is calculated relative to the start of each agent run (instead of the end) and splay is only applied to the first run, but not the 2nd, etc. That way if you're running puppet via cron, the first daemonized run will splay, and each run after should be at a constant runinterval seconds. Previously, users would see "peaks" as runs started to overlap. I'm not sure how well known/understood the "new" *nix behavior is. The splay and splaylimit settings could use updating: https://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/configuration.html#splay, and I know of at least one ticket: https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-5542. Assuming the current *nix behavior is correct, I would agree Windows is not correct, and should be ticketed. Windows runs as a service that essentially runs `puppet agent --onetime` every run interval seconds (https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/ext/windows/service/daemon.rb#L74), and relies on puppet to splay each time. To match *nix behavior, the daemon would need to calculate the initial splay & splaylimit, and tell the agent to ignore those settings, so we don't get double-splay. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.13#64028-sha1:b7939e9) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Josh Cooper updated an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Change By: Josh Cooper Scrum Team: Windows Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.4.12#64027-sha1:e3691cc) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Bugs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-bugs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-bugs@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-bugs. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Jira (PUP-5823) Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs
Title: Message Title Chris Spence created an issue Puppet / PUP-5823 Puppet agent with splay on windows begets random interval between runs Issue Type: Bug Assignee: Kylo Ginsberg Components: Client Created: 2016/02/05 3:31 AM Priority: Normal Reporter: Chris Spence Further to the thread at https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/puppet-users/splay/puppet-users/56pWWnUslR8/C7iO-nmeCQAJ I'm finally getting round to logging this as an issue: We are running puppet (3.7.x) on Windows daemonized. We recently turned on splay because reasons. After having done so the interval between daemonised runs, counter to expectation, has become randomised (though we get an averageish run interval of 30 minutes (30.5 recurring)). The linuxes here have identical config and their runs are as regular as a muesli eating vegetarian. Here are some report times and approximate delta of a representative Windows 2012: Oct 21 2015 - 16:03:27 (14) Oct 21 2015 - 15:49:10 (28) Oct 21 2015 - 15:21:14 (33) Oct 21 2015 - 14:48:23 (32) Oct 21 2015 - 14:16:47 (23) Oct 21 2015 - 13:53:35 (36) Oct 21 2015 - 13:17:57 (27) Oct 21 2015 - 12:54:02 (29) Oct 21 2015 - 12:25:20 (53) Oct 21 2015 - 11:31:48
