[Puppet Users] Re: keeping some code out of the repo

2009-06-11 Thread David Schmitt

Dan Bode wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It seems like one of the barriers to the puppet production rollout that 
 I am working towards will be user adoption. For this purpose, I want to 
 manage all common tasks with UIs that autogenerate the puppet code, so 
 that the admins only have to go through the full build process for 
 custom code changes and not routine processes.

   manifests/managed-server.pp (node group definitions will be an 
 autogenerated file)
 users uses scripts (maybe a GUI later) to add hosts to a group, remove 
 hosts, move hosts, also used by the kickstart scripts to add hosts after 
 installation

Use http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExternalNodes for that. 
That way you can add/remove classes and set variables for nodes by 
letting puppet call out to a script.

 To do this correctly, I need to use some of the Puppet core API for 
 parsing files, maybe a verfiy function or create fucntion. Can someone 
 point me to a good starting place for these fucntions? Also what is the 
 expectation for backwards compatibility when using the API internals 
 (very low, I assume??) Most of the functionality will just be config 
 files in the files dir for a module that are loaded at run time.

While I haven't actually implemented something like this, I've made two 
designs how I think this could be implemented:

   1) storeconfigs based

This is pretty straight forward. First you need to define what resource 
you want to manage externally:

| define external::something($param1, $param2) {
| # ...
| }

Then activate storedconfigs and work with the created database: Create a 
fake host, and add the resources to the resources table, adding 
parameters into the resourcekeep the items with exported='t' and put 
the params into param_names/param_values. The database schema is 
quite straight-forward.

Finally, you can just collect all the resources from the database where 
you need them:

| External::something | |

See http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ExportedResources for more 
details on the query syntax.



   2) function based

This way is more involved but would provide you with more flexibility. 
The point here is to create puppet functions to query your custom 
database while compiling the configuration for a client:

| define external::something::from_db() {
| $real_name = name_from_db($name)
| $param1 = param1_from_db($name)
| $param2 = param2_from_db($name)
| external::something {
| $real_name:
| param1 = $param1,
| param2 = $param2;
| }
| }

And use it like that:

| external::something::from_db { list_from_db(): }

Where list_from_db() returns an array of primary keys, and 
name_from_db() and param?_from_db() return the name and the values 
respectivly for a certain primary key.



   3) Conclusion

Both of the methods avoid touching internal APIs of puppet and thus 
should be quite stable across releases.




Regards, DavidS














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[Puppet Users] Re: Multiple version of the same package

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Hemsley

Aurelien Degremont wrote:
 Hello

 I would like to install different versions of the same package with Puppet.

 The packaging of those package is totally compatible and authorize to 
 have both installed in the meantime.

 # rpm -i foo-1.1 foo-2.3
 works very well.

 How declare this with Puppet?
 I only found this workaround for the moment:

 package {
 foo-1:
name   = foo-1.1,
ensure = 1.1-25;
 foo-2:
name   = foo-2.3,
ensure = 2.3-1;
 }

 Is there a better way
http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1720

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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Dick Davies

Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughanpeiriann...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone might give you a better answer, but try:

 % if tags.index('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.

I did too, but it doesn't :(

The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
(due to scoping?).

It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
tag('httpd') defined in
classes your class includes.

This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
tags are actually
useful for.

I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
redundant since I'm
also including the 'httpd' class.





 Trevor

 Dick Davies wrote:
 I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
 It's all in a branch on my github repo at

 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables

 template that looks like:

 % if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %
 -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
 ACCEPT
 % end -%

 (see 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
 )

 i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:

 class httpd {
   $open_firewall = 'on'
   # rest of httpd class def.
 }

 [ 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
 ]

 The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
 'include iptables'
 it'll open the right port.

 This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
 get this error on
 nodes that don't :

 [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
 info: Retrieving plugins
 err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
 iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
 variables cannot be referenced at
 /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
 warning: Not using cache on failed catalog


 To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.

 Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?

 I did try:

 % if has_variable?('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.


 Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
 Thanks in advance for
 any tips.

 
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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Dick Davies

I've raised http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2336
against this.

To my mind,  has_variable?('panda::blood') returning false makes
more sense than throwing a parse error :)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Dick
Daviesrasput...@hellooperator.net wrote:
 Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughanpeiriann...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone might give you a better answer, but try:

 % if tags.index('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.

 I did too, but it doesn't :(

 The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
 (due to scoping?).

 It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
 tag('httpd') defined in
 classes your class includes.

 This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
 tags are actually
 useful for.

 I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
 redundant since I'm
 also including the 'httpd' class.





 Trevor

 Dick Davies wrote:
 I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
 It's all in a branch on my github repo at

 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables

 template that looks like:

 % if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %
 -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
 ACCEPT
 % end -%

 (see 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
 )

 i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:

 class httpd {
   $open_firewall = 'on'
   # rest of httpd class def.
 }

 [ 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
 ]

 The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
 'include iptables'
 it'll open the right port.

 This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
 get this error on
 nodes that don't :

 [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
 info: Retrieving plugins
 err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
 iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
 variables cannot be referenced at
 /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
 warning: Not using cache on failed catalog


 To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.

 Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?

 I did try:

 % if has_variable?('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.


 Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
 Thanks in advance for
 any tips.

 
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[Puppet Users] Re: Any way to stop has_variable? throwing errors?

2009-06-11 Thread Trevor Vaughan

One other try:

% if classes.index('httpd') 

I forgot that tags weren't exposed in the ERB.

Trevor

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:42, Dick Daviesrasput...@hellooperator.net wrote:

 Hi Trevor, thanks for the idea.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Trevor Vaughanpeiriann...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone might give you a better answer, but try:

 % if tags.index('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 This *may not* work due to file parsing order, but I *think* that it will.

 I did too, but it doesn't :(

 The only reason I tried variables is because tags aren't visible
 (due to scoping?).

 It seems you can't see tags (autotags or tags set explicitly with
 tag('httpd') defined in
 classes your class includes.

 This is a real problem from where I'm sat; it does make me wonder what
 tags are actually
 useful for.

 I suppose I could define the tag in the node, but that seems pretty
 redundant since I'm
 also including the 'httpd' class.





 Trevor

 Dick Davies wrote:
 I'm using a primitive template to build my iptables rulesets.
 It's all in a branch on my github repo at

 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/tree/templated-iptables

 template that looks like:

 % if has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %
 -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
 ACCEPT
 % end -%

 (see 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/iptables/templates/iptables.erb
 )

 i then set a variable in the httpd module like this:

 class httpd {
   $open_firewall = 'on'
   # rest of httpd class def.
 }

 [ 
 http://github.com/rasputnik/babysteps-puppet/blob/templated-iptables/modules/httpd/manifests/init.pp
 ]

 The idea being that if a node has 'include httpd', then when it runs
 'include iptables'
 it'll open the right port.

 This works fine for classes that include httpd. The trouble is that i
 get this error on
 nodes that don't :

 [r...@node03 ~]# puppetd -tv
 info: Retrieving plugins
 err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to parse template
 iptables/iptables.erb: Class httpd has not been evaluated so its
 variables cannot be referenced at
 /etc/puppet/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp:11 on node node03.pixie
 warning: Not using cache on failed catalog


 To my mind, that should be a warning, not an error.

 Is there any 'guard' I can put in my template to stop this blowing up?

 I did try:

 % if has_variable?('httpd')  has_variable?('httpd::open_firewall') %

 but the first clause is always false, even on nodes that 'include httpd'.


 Sorry this has been a bit longwinded, but I'm a bit stumped here.
 Thanks in advance for
 any tips.

 
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[Puppet Users] Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Chris

Hi,

I'm using puppet to generate nagios configs in what I guess is the
'usual' way; by having each host export config a files for each nagios
check using  @@file {...tag=nagios...}, which are then collected onto
the nagios server with File |tag == 'nagios' |


I have two nagios servers, and I want each of them to collect all of
the config files.

The nagios servers also define nagios checks of their own (having two
means they can check each other, which is handy).

Now, what's strange is that the nagios servers don't appear collect
each others' checks. So each nagios server gets the checks for itself,
and for all the other non-nagios servers, but not for the other
nagios.

Looking in the database, it seems that the nagios config file
resources, on both  servers, are marked as exported=0. So they
appear on their own server by virtue of being 'real'  resources,
despite being defined with @@file...

I guess this is something to do with the fact that the same node is
exporting the resource and collecting it - could this somehow cause
puppet to think that, since the resource is being collected locally,
it doesn't need to be exported?

Is there a way around this?

Thanks

Chris
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[Puppet Users] Re: Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Brice Figureau

Hi,

On which version of puppet is running on your puppetmaster?
Various versions had some issues with exported/collected resources (0.24.7
was one of them, if I remember correctly).

On Thu, June 11, 2009 13:44, Chris wrote:

 I'm using puppet to generate nagios configs in what I guess is the
 'usual' way; by having each host export config a files for each nagios
 check using  @@file {...tag=nagios...}, which are then collected onto
 the nagios server with File |tag == 'nagios' |

Yes, this looks like pretty standard.

 I have two nagios servers, and I want each of them to collect all of
 the config files.

No issue, each one has to File ||.

 The nagios servers also define nagios checks of their own (having two
 means they can check each other, which is handy).

 Now, what's strange is that the nagios servers don't appear collect
 each others' checks. So each nagios server gets the checks for itself,
 and for all the other non-nagios servers, but not for the other
 nagios.

 Looking in the database, it seems that the nagios config file
 resources, on both  servers, are marked as exported=0. So they
 appear on their own server by virtue of being 'real'  resources,
 despite being defined with @@file...

This really looks like one of the issue in 0.24.7.

 I guess this is something to do with the fact that the same node is
 exporting the resource and collecting it - could this somehow cause
 puppet to think that, since the resource is being collected locally,
 it doesn't need to be exported?

 Is there a way around this?

If you're running a version affected, upgrade to the 0.24.8 version on
your master.

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[Puppet Users] Re: Exporting and collecting resources on the multiple hosts problem

2009-06-11 Thread Chris

 If you're running a version affected, upgrade to the 0.24.8 version on
 your master.


Ah, that would explain it.  I'm running the version that comes with
OpenCSW (the solaris package repo.), which is currently at 0.24.7.
I'll see if there are any plans to upgrade that in the near future,
and if not, I'll see about doing a re-install from source.

Thanks!

Chris
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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Nasrat

2009/6/10 Dick Davies rasput...@hellooperator.net:

 Thanks James.

 Actually it's the same fundamental issue as

   http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2067

 so i've amended that ticket.

 I won't send a patch just yet, but at least I can pick through the code
 now when I get a spare hour :) Thanks for the pointers.

I'm in the middle of completely rewriting the fact.

On your virtual box guest can you give me the output of running lscpu:

wget http://people.redhat.com/kzak/lscpu.c
gcc -o lscpu lscpu.c
./lscpu

Cheers

Paul

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[Puppet Users] Re: how do I submit a patch?

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Schäfer

Am 11.06.2009 um 17:23 schrieb Paul Nasrat:

 That all should be part of libc. Try apt-get install build-essential.

Actually, libc6-dev was enough.


Architecture:  x86_64
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Core(s) per socket:1
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CPU family:6
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Stepping:  3
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Regards,

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Certification?

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:03 AM, paul matthews wrote:

 I realise this could be a long way off as Puppet is rapidly  
 evolving, with development still at the forefront but are there  
 plans in the furture to offer a Puppet Certification exam. I know  
 the subject of certification is not to everyone's taste, but I find  
 studying for these is a good way for me to focus on learning all the  
 subject areas and to demonstrate some level of competence to any  
 would be employers. I think there would be benefits to Reductive  
 too, I guess mostly in the area of getting people to attend training  
 courses

 I'll get my flame proof suit on in anticipation for any replies

We've actually had quite a few people ask for certification, for  
various reasons, and we plan on offering it.  We hope to have a first  
pass available something like the end of 2009.  Obviously, the more  
people ask for it, the faster it will get done.

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 8, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

 I'm using puppet 0.24.7-4. I have a situation where I have some very  
 long running puppet runs in order to do upgrades (removing  
 applications from load balancers gracefully, et cetera).

 My puppet runs triggered via puppetrun are finishing successfully:

 Jun  8 20:31:29 puppetd[10178]: Finished catalog run in 345.18 seconds

 Puppetrun itself is timing out:

 err: Connection timeout calling puppetrunner.run: execution expired
 Host myhost failed: Connection Timeout
 myhost finished with exit code 2

 I'm calling puppetrun with --foreground: puppetrun --host=myhost -- 
 host=myhost2 --host=myhost3 --foreground --parallel

 However, I don't see anything in the puppetrun doco that hints at  
 setting the execution exiry time. Any suggestions?


I'd run with --no-foreground.  Or, modify puppetrun to have a timeout?

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?


Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --  
do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppetd not running on intervals

2009-06-11 Thread Len Rugen
We are just putting our RHEL 4 systems in crontab

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Christopher
christopher.sule...@gmail.comwrote:


 Turns out this is a bug in facter which is fixed in 1.5.5. The rpm is
 available in epel-testing.

 On Jun 10, 11:18 am, Christopher christopher.sule...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm having the same exact problem here on quite a few el4 machines.
  Those that don't work are running puppet 0.24.8 whereas I do have one
  el4 that works and it's running 0.23.0.

  


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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com wrote:

 On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?


 Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
 do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
a puppet newbie


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[Puppet Users] Alternate file source

2009-06-11 Thread Jason Antman

I was wondering if anyone out there has done any work on other URI types
for File source ?

I have a few machines that need some local scripts copied over, which
are stored in CVS or Subversion. It would be really helpful if, instead
of having to check out the scripts into the module's files/ directory
when they change, I could just provide Puppet with a http:// or svn://
URI

-Jason

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[Puppet Users] Re: Controlling the order of execution of puppet code?

2009-06-11 Thread Rene

Does anybody know the status of that patch?

On May 29, 10:01 am, Brice Figureau brice-pup...@daysofwonder.com
wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:18 +1000, James Turnbull wrote:
  Brice Figureau wrote:
   On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:55 +0200, Peter Meier wrote:
   Hi

   Only way I know is to make individual objects depend on other objects.
   Can't do it at
   class level... I think there is a feature request somewhere in the
   system for this, because
   I'd like it as well...
   hmm did I only dream that in the upcoming release there will be a  
   require (or something like that) keyword to include a class and  
   require it. Unfortunately I'm not able to find the appropriate bug  
   report.

   I implemented it for sure, but in the end I think it was rejected:
  http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1907

   Re-reading the thread I see why we rejected the bug, but not the patch.
   I think I'll have to resubmit it.

  Yes - had to go re-read myself.  As long as we provide both functions -
  include and a stronger require - I think this is an easy +1.

 Yes, that's what my patch was doing.
 I'll resurrect the patch and post it to puppet-dev this week-end.
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[Puppet Users] Variables in definitions

2009-06-11 Thread DrKJam

Hi,

A quick Hello to every as this is my first post on the Puppet Users group.

I had some training with Teyo in London recently and am busy
evaluating Puppet to replace a config engine developed for internal
use at my company.

Question: Is it possible to refer to variables declared inside
realised definitions?

Here's a basic example of how to refer to variables defined inside the
scope of a class that is not your own :-

test.pp
--
class foo {
$bar = 'baz'
}
include foo
notice($foo::bar)

output :-
--
notice: Scope(Class[main]): baz

Is there any equivalent syntax for definitions along the lines of :-

$foo['somename']::bar

Is it possible to do something similar with definitions or is this
just abuse of Puppet principles ;-)

Basically what I'm trying to achieve is the set up of a bunch of
scopes with variables in them. These are then combined in various ways
to configure multiple instances of an application on a individual
system (of which there may be many).

It's proving to be tougher than I thought ;-)

Any thoughts or suggestions on the direction I could take from here?

Regards,

David Moss

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[Puppet Users] Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread chakkerz

So it looks like at least the linux side of things is sorted at my
site, which means i'm approaching go-live.

With CFengine we've had two servers defined in the configuration, but
puppet doesn't seem to do that and there are other issues with this
setup (well our current setup of cfengine anyway). My plan was this:

My dev host remains that - new modules and such get built on it, and
when it's tested and working we check it in to svn.

My prod hosts update from svn via cron every X minutes (thinking
between 5 and 15) and serve their data.

Which leads to my two questions:
1) how do i keep the certs on both prod hosts ? I assume they ID the
host uniquely, so just copying them across is not the way forward,
though i'm planning to use some sort of IP failover between the two
prod hosts, and i'm thinking signing against the shared IP may be
sufficient (have not tried).
2) has anyone used puppet with IP failover ? My Red Hat Cluster Suite
nodes are currently intent on upsetting me so i'm inclined not to go
that way, rather i'm considering ucarp. Regardless, has anyone tried
puppet + IP failover?

I guess there is a 3: is there a way of just specifying two hosts in
the config (and what does that mean to certificates)?

Cheers
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[Puppet Users] Re: Controlling the order of execution of puppet code?

2009-06-11 Thread James Turnbull
Rene wrote:
 Does anybody know the status of that patch?
 

It's pushed and will be in 0.25.0.  The next 0.25.0 release will be
beta2 but I haven't got a date yet.

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com wrote:

 On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could  
 not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911  
 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911  
 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?


 Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
 do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

 my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
 in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
 a puppet newbie

Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Pete Emerson
Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's complete, and
I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I took to mean that
puppetrun already has some sort of internal timeout mechanism. Is that not
the case?

I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do that,
is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful update was,
in order to show that the changes have been completed?

If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and run
puppetd there and wait for it to finish.

Pete

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Luke Kanies l...@madstop.com wrote:


 On Jun 8, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

  I'm using puppet 0.24.7-4. I have a situation where I have some very
  long running puppet runs in order to do upgrades (removing
  applications from load balancers gracefully, et cetera).
 
  My puppet runs triggered via puppetrun are finishing successfully:
 
  Jun  8 20:31:29 puppetd[10178]: Finished catalog run in 345.18 seconds
 
  Puppetrun itself is timing out:
 
  err: Connection timeout calling puppetrunner.run: execution expired
  Host myhost failed: Connection Timeout
  myhost finished with exit code 2
 
  I'm calling puppetrun with --foreground: puppetrun --host=myhost --
  host=myhost2 --host=myhost3 --foreground --parallel
 
  However, I don't see anything in the puppetrun doco that hints at
  setting the execution exiry time. Any suggestions?


 I'd run with --no-foreground.  Or, modify puppetrun to have a timeout?

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

 Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's  
 complete, and I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I  
 took to mean that puppetrun already has some sort of internal  
 timeout mechanism. Is that not the case?

 I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do  
 that, is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful  
 update was, in order to show that the changes have been completed?

 If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and  
 run puppetd there and wait for it to finish.

I'd recommend using reports from the client to figure out when it's  
done.

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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Asif Iqbal

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com wrote:

 On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com wrote:

 On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
 not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?


 Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket --
 do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

 my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
 in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry I am
 a puppet newbie

 Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.

nothing there in puppet master

# /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig



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[Puppet Users] Re: puppet client looking for server puppet

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Kanies

On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com wrote:

 On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote:


 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Luke Kaniesl...@madstop.com  
 wrote:

 On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Asif Iqbal wrote:

 In my puppet client I have
 puppet.conf defined puppet server as mypuppet

 server = mypuppet.example.net

 Not sure why the puppet client puppet-test is still sending these
 noises to the syslog

 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911  
 daemon.error]
 Could not find server : getaddrinfo: node name or service name not
 known
 Jun 10 13:36:23 puppet-test puppetd[10863]: [ID 702911  
 daemon.error]
 Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: Could
 not
 find server puppet
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Starting catalog run
 Jun 10 13:36:44 puppet-test puppetd[13502]: [ID 702911
 daemon.notice]
 Finished catalog run in 0.03 seconds

 Am I hitting a but?


 Almost every time I've seen this it's a problem with a filebucket  
 --
 do you have a server-side filebucket specified to use 'puppet'?

 my puppetmaster is a ubuntu server and I do not see anything
 in /var/lib/puppet/bucket dir. Is that what you are asking? sorry  
 I am
 a puppet newbie

 Look for a 'filebucket' resource in your manifests.

 nothing there in puppet master

 # /etc/puppet/manifests# ls
 classes  site.pp  site.pp.orig

What's the output of 'grep -r filebucket *' in that directory?

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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppetrun timeout

2009-06-11 Thread Pete Emerson
Aha! Excellent. Reference:

http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReportsAndReporting

I haven't played with this piece of puppet yet, but will do so now.

Thanks,
Pete

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Luke Kanies l...@madstop.com wrote:


 On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Pete Emerson wrote:

  Hrm, I'm running it with --foreground so that I know when it's
  complete, and I'm getting these execution expired messages, which I
  took to mean that puppetrun already has some sort of internal
  timeout mechanism. Is that not the case?
 
  I guess an alternative would be to run with --no-foreground. If I do
  that, is there a way to query host and see when it's last successful
  update was, in order to show that the changes have been completed?
 
  If that doesn't work, then I guess I'd have to ssh to each box and
  run puppetd there and wait for it to finish.

 I'd recommend using reports from the client to figure out when it's
 done.

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 else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self.
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[Puppet Users] Re: Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread RijilV

2009/6/11 chakkerz chakk...@gmail.com:
 Which leads to my two questions:
 1) how do i keep the certs on both prod hosts ? I assume they ID the
 host uniquely, so just copying them across is not the way forward,
 though i'm planning to use some sort of IP failover between the two
 prod hosts, and i'm thinking signing against the shared IP may be
 sufficient (have not tried).

So, you don't need the client certs on any puppetmaster.   All that is
important is that the client trusts the master's cert, and that the
master trusts the client's cert.  Probably the easiest way of doing
that is (1) just putting the same cert on both puppetmasters, or (2)
including the contents of both ca.pem on all hosts, and lastly (3)
creating a rootCA that all parties trust and just sign all the keys
accordingly.

And also fwiw, the host is only identified by its FQDN by default -
its the CN in the cert.

 2) has anyone used puppet with IP failover ? My Red Hat Cluster Suite
 nodes are currently intent on upsetting me so i'm inclined not to go
 that way, rather i'm considering ucarp. Regardless, has anyone tried
 puppet + IP failover?

We did it in active-active with load balancers, which could have
easily been active-passive.  Its just a simple web service from the
perspective of high availability.  When the move to REST is complete
it'll be even more simple.

 I guess there is a 3: is there a way of just specifying two hosts in
 the config (and what does that mean to certificates)?

No, I assume the thought being high availability would be handled
outside of the client.  This has come up a few times now though... I
think I'd rather see ordered A or SRV RRs.


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[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp Oct 1-2 at SFSU

2009-06-11 Thread David Lutterkort

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 16:59 +0100, Matt wrote:
 A few things from the top of my head:
 
 1) What people have done in regard to node management, as well as
 dealing with nodes that do not have static DNS names such as when
 using Ec2.
 2) Success/failures on scaling puppet out to n clients
 3) How it's been incorporated in to development, operations, and
 infrastructure environments

I'd be very interested in hearing anything about module reuse, both
within organizations, and from the various repos out there. Both
successes, and even more failures. In a similar vein, anything about
attempts at using modules to provide simplified config building blocks
to others.

Maybe an in-person meeting would be a good opportunity to revive the
'grand unified puppet module repo' idea that has been out there for a
while, but never really taken off.

BTW, I will definitely attend if I am in town (there's a very small
chance that I might not be)

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[Puppet Users] Re: Another Redundant Puppet Master Servers Thread

2009-06-11 Thread chakkerz

Sounds sensible and straight forward. Thanks for that!
chakkerz
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[Puppet Users] Managing content of state.yaml

2009-06-11 Thread Greg

Hi all,

I have a tidy block set up to clean up old Puppet reports (older than
1 month). One side effect of this is that every file that is removed
gets added into the state.yaml file. On a small scale this is not a
bad thing - it keeps track of what's been culled, etc...

On a larger scale (ie. Tidy is cleaning a lot of files with different
filenames) the state.yaml file will grow and grow. This whole state
file is read in on a regular basis by the Puppet daemon. Its probably
a small one for most people, but in theory it is a persistent memory
leak.

What is the general best practice for managing Puppet state/config
databases?

Greg
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