Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
Stuart, I know this took a while, but there were some bureaucratic hoops to be jumped through first. Our Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC, or what exists of it so far, is now at https://github.com/coxmediagroup/nodemeister Be advised this is horribly Alpha, doesn't really have any tests yet, and relies on an internal python module. In other words, for the time being, it's really there as code to look at only, I wouldn't expect you to get it installed and running without some serious Python knowledge. -Jason On 12/06/2013 12:59 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: HI Jason, No I have no hesitations at all and yes, I would enjoy seeing your Postgres code and learning from it and can share back. So the thought here is to have all the configuration data, client data, node data, in a Postgres database (the one on the Puppet Master) and used downline by all the various Linux apps which need it, including Puppet. I take it (hopefully) this is not too unusual and bizarre in the world of Puppet. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16:10 AM UTC-8, Jason Antman wrote: PuppetDB isn't an ENC. PuppetDB does, however, use Postgres (unless you use the embedded database, which you shouldn't). Puppet Dashboard is an ENC, but ironically, uses MySQL not Postgres. Stuart, Starting *another* ENC thread a day later isn't likely to get you many more responses than the two to your last question. I assumed, given your lack of response to my reply, that you're not terribly interested in sharing what you need an ENC to do... As I mentioned, I'm working on getting a Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC ready for release... if you want to see the current code, that could be arranged, though it's not really up to the just run this puppet module and it installs the ENC stage yet. -jantman On 12/04/2013 05:10 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? �Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.� Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) *From: *Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com *To: *puppet...@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM *Subject: *[Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/1909c6a8-9dc8-48bf-a397-f975a82749ac%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/52C2B346.1050500%40jasonantman.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
Great Jason - I'll take a look (have done a ton of Python.) Happy new year. On Dec 31, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Jason Antman ja...@jasonantman.com wrote: Stuart, I know this took a while, but there were some bureaucratic hoops to be jumped through first. Our Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC, or what exists of it so far, is now at https://github.com/coxmediagroup/nodemeister Be advised this is horribly Alpha, doesn't really have any tests yet, and relies on an internal python module. In other words, for the time being, it's really there as code to look at only, I wouldn't expect you to get it installed and running without some serious Python knowledge. -Jason On 12/06/2013 12:59 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: HI Jason, No I have no hesitations at all and yes, I would enjoy seeing your Postgres code and learning from it and can share back. So the thought here is to have all the configuration data, client data, node data, in a Postgres database (the one on the Puppet Master) and used downline by all the various Linux apps which need it, including Puppet. I take it (hopefully) this is not too unusual and bizarre in the world of Puppet. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16:10 AM UTC-8, Jason Antman wrote: PuppetDB isn't an ENC. PuppetDB does, however, use Postgres (unless you use the embedded database, which you shouldn't). Puppet Dashboard is an ENC, but ironically, uses MySQL not Postgres. Stuart, Starting *another* ENC thread a day later isn't likely to get you many more responses than the two to your last question. I assumed, given your lack of response to my reply, that you're not terribly interested in sharing what you need an ENC to do... As I mentioned, I'm working on getting a Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC ready for release... if you want to see the current code, that could be arranged, though it's not really up to the just run this puppet module and it installs the ENC stage yet. -jantman On 12/04/2013 05:10 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? �Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.� Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) From: Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com To: puppet...@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM Subject: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/1909c6a8-9dc8-48bf-a397-f975a82749ac%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/puppet-users/4lwPsp4gv7M/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/52C2B346.1050500%40jasonantman.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/C1308D94-009F-4599-B7A0-A54DB3F3649C%40me.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
So you're looking to put Puppet data and other data for other applications in ONE database? That doesn't sound terribly safe... How is this data getting into the database? What types of functionality do you need? Just something like Dashboard with nodes and groups that can have params and classes? Inheritance? Exclusions? If all you want is a database that stores classes/params for nodes, and uses them on a 1:1 basis, this is a trivial problem and is really just an issue of writing a tool to get data into the database. The hard part of an ENC is handling things like groups, multiple inheritance, overrides, exclusions, etc. I'm still not clear on the functionality and interface that you want for this, and I'm also unclear on the distinction between what you call configuration data, client data and node data. -Jason On 12/06/2013 12:59 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: HI Jason, No I have no hesitations at all and yes, I would enjoy seeing your Postgres code and learning from it and can share back. So the thought here is to have all the configuration data, client data, node data, in a Postgres database (the one on the Puppet Master) and used downline by all the various Linux apps which need it, including Puppet. I take it (hopefully) this is not too unusual and bizarre in the world of Puppet. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16:10 AM UTC-8, Jason Antman wrote: PuppetDB isn't an ENC. PuppetDB does, however, use Postgres (unless you use the embedded database, which you shouldn't). Puppet Dashboard is an ENC, but ironically, uses MySQL not Postgres. Stuart, Starting *another* ENC thread a day later isn't likely to get you many more responses than the two to your last question. I assumed, given your lack of response to my reply, that you're not terribly interested in sharing what you need an ENC to do... As I mentioned, I'm working on getting a Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC ready for release... if you want to see the current code, that could be arranged, though it's not really up to the just run this puppet module and it installs the ENC stage yet. -jantman On 12/04/2013 05:10 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? �Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.� Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) *From: *Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com *To: *puppet...@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM *Subject: *[Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/1909c6a8-9dc8-48bf-a397-f975a82749ac%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
HI Jason, No I have no hesitations at all and yes, I would enjoy seeing your Postgres code and learning from it and can share back. So the thought here is to have all the configuration data, client data, node data, in a Postgres database (the one on the Puppet Master) and used downline by all the various Linux apps which need it, including Puppet. I take it (hopefully) this is not too unusual and bizarre in the world of Puppet. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16:10 AM UTC-8, Jason Antman wrote: PuppetDB isn't an ENC. PuppetDB does, however, use Postgres (unless you use the embedded database, which you shouldn't). Puppet Dashboard is an ENC, but ironically, uses MySQL not Postgres. Stuart, Starting *another* ENC thread a day later isn't likely to get you many more responses than the two to your last question. I assumed, given your lack of response to my reply, that you're not terribly interested in sharing what you need an ENC to do... As I mentioned, I'm working on getting a Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC ready for release... if you want to see the current code, that could be arranged, though it's not really up to the just run this puppet module and it installs the ENC stage yet. -jantman On 12/04/2013 05:10 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? �Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.� Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) -- *From: *Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com *To: *puppet...@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM *Subject: *[Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/1909c6a8-9dc8-48bf-a397-f975a82749ac%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
PuppetDB isn't an ENC. PuppetDB does, however, use Postgres (unless you use the embedded database, which you shouldn't). Puppet Dashboard is an ENC, but ironically, uses MySQL not Postgres. Stuart, Starting *another* ENC thread a day later isn't likely to get you many more responses than the two to your last question. I assumed, given your lack of response to my reply, that you're not terribly interested in sharing what you need an ENC to do... As I mentioned, I'm working on getting a Python/Django (Postgres-backed) ENC ready for release... if you want to see the current code, that could be arranged, though it's not really up to the just run this puppet module and it installs the ENC stage yet. -jantman On 12/04/2013 05:10 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote: Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) *From: *Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com javascript: *To: *puppet...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent: *Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM *Subject: *[Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/52A06E8A.4040804%40jasonantman.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) - Original Message - From: Stuart Cracraft smcracr...@gmail.com To: puppet-users@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM Subject: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/549109965.4863727.1386194590631.JavaMail.root%40sz0126a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
Hi Ygor/Dan, Postgres has better DR. We like Postgres. Stuart On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:03:10 PM UTC-8, Ygor wrote: Isn't that what PuppetDB is ? “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin Hobbes) -- *From: *Stuart Cracraft smcra...@gmail.com javascript: *To: *puppet...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent: *Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:33:51 PM *Subject: *[Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end Hi everybody! Anyone have a back-ended external node classifier to a Postgres database they could throw my way? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/7781bed3-7e5a-46e2-8949-e00bfac0fbd0%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c642f1be-1121-4ab9-b56a-29b54809140f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Puppet Users] external node classifier with a back-end
And if you do not want to store secretive (complete) company data in PuppetDB but instead an alternative securable database, what then pray tell? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Puppet Users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/E22CF187-0DDD-409E-9784-4F9995215551%40me.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
