Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers
dear pure:dyne devs, just wanted to send a big *THANK YOU* to all of you, your work and support was very much appreciated here. you guys (and girls?) made me 100% switch to linux and it would not have been that easy to learn all this with any other distro. my 1st gig on linux was on a miso live-usb (back in the days) and I have to admit that I was very proud at that time. now I'm a happy arch user but none of it would have happened without your great work. I wish you good luck for your future projects ! pure:dyne is dead. long live pure:dyne. _y --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers
Dear Puredyne Developers. Just wanted to say thank you very much for a great great product! I very much appreciate all your hard work that went into Puredyne over the years. On many levels, it assisted many in the pilot group of Open Source Dance to discover their multidisciplinary identities!! I am definitely interested in continuing an affiliation through the next list-serve if one is setup. Thank you again! Best Manju. _ Manjunan Gnanaratnam Founder Open Source Dance [http://www.opensourcedance.org] [http://www.manjunan.com] On 2/5/12 1:59 PM, Dan S danstowell+pured...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Puredyne community, As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as far as an alpha release. This alpha release was our last soup. Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be a pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent soup as our final gift rather than something that could be potentially substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous Andalusian dish). Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we faced in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own artistic OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down designed general purpose multimedia system. All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around for nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), etc. Life, really. Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last things. First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It lives on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and then, some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a birthday party, to quickly generate an audiovisual oriented live USB/DD/CD/DVD. Broth is very handy for that, so that's why we will be still using it, hence possibly developing it further whenever we need it (current version lives here: https://launchpad.net/broth ). The second point concerns the community aspect of Puredyne. While there is no point in keeping this list running, we want to ask you all if you would be interested to join a new list to keep on talking/discussing about the practice of free software related art, music and design (get help on installing and using distros and free software for artistic practices, but also a place to announce/present your projects, look for collaborators, etc). No strings attached, just an idea, but one that may be useful for users/former users of Puredyne - based around our initial goal to support FLOSS + art practice for ourselves and others, where we saw a gap that needed filling. Send a mail off-list to puredyne-t...@goto10.org. If we get a few positive responses we'll make a list and subscribe those who contacted us. I think that's it for now. Puredyne was a great project, we learned a lot, we had great fun. We thank you all for supporting us and having been around all these years. :* --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers
I would love to be part of that new list too, FLOSS + art is what I do and is essential discussion nowadays (with war on copyrights + machine as appliance , etc... ) It's good to see life having an effect on coders (with good things like babies... I have one too) And it's interesting to focus on a modular system like broth wich could open the community to other things. looking forward to what is coming wish you the best and thanks you for the puredyne project, which was a light in the dark . Olivier ogeem.be On 07/02/12 13:00, puredyne-requ...@goto10.org wrote: Send Puredyne mailing list submissions to puredyne@goto10.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.goto10.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/puredyne or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to puredyne-requ...@goto10.org You can reach the person managing the list at puredyne-ow...@goto10.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Puredyne digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: announcement from the Puredyne developers (Geofroy Tremblay) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:26:50 -0500 From: Geofroy Tremblay g...@ponnuki.net To: puredyne@goto10.org Subject: Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers Message-ID: 5b671b035c3bafcbddcebbee8a94a...@ponnuki.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Dear Puredyne, It's interesting to read this email - since I just change my main computer to Debian over the weekend, and it was still running puredyne. (my audio computer still running puredyne thought) Looking at the last 4 years I realize how much I learned trough puredyne - and I have to say that, even though I used linux and ubuntu here and there before, it was puredyne that really charmed me - and the OS of choice when Apple wasn't apple anymore (about 3 years ago). Anyhow, the software was one part, the community was another part, creativity with computer was what sealed the deal ;) I would be really interested to be part of the next mail list and see where that lead us all - of course I would love to see a nice broth on Debian that include the main tools I use (puredata, fluxus,sc, processing, arduino, yeah I know java :S ) - some sort of puredyne with less complex maintenance (so I could be more of help) - bt I realize that even that is a lot of work! For the moment, I moved to a clean debian for my main machine, puredyne for the audio machine and Crunch Bang for my Dj gear (#! is quite a interesting community base distribution that worth checking out by the way) But I have been on the lookout for a puredyne type of system, which doesn't seem to exist :S Thank you for the community, Thank you Aymeric and the whole Dev team ;) the future seems promising :D On 06.02.2012 03:31, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Dear Dan, Puredyne community, I have been a pretty quiet reader of this list since a while. I manly use debian these days. Always loved Puredyne, burning the iso popping it in any machine and having all the (especially audio- in my case) stuff I like. I remember - now a few years ago - getting hold of a Puredyne iso using my university's connection - hey don't tell enyone ;) - burning it and thinking wow multimedia on linux exists. and works :) Many things evolved since then... Recently used it in a workshop about linux + music - (mac) people are always positively surprised by this polished, full-working system which 'just works' out of a CD. For what it may be worth, all I can personally add is a big thank you to all the people who in a way or another contributed to this great FLOSS + creativity project. And wish tham all the best for their dreams, future, and art. Ciao, Lorenzo. PS: I would be very interested in the proposed FLOSS + art list. On 05/02/12 19:59, Dan S wrote: Dear Puredyne community, As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as far as an alpha release. This alpha release was our last soup. Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great
Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers
Dear Puredyne, It's interesting to read this email - since I just change my main computer to Debian over the weekend, and it was still running puredyne. (my audio computer still running puredyne thought) Looking at the last 4 years I realize how much I learned trough puredyne - and I have to say that, even though I used linux and ubuntu here and there before, it was puredyne that really charmed me - and the OS of choice when Apple wasn't apple anymore (about 3 years ago). Anyhow, the software was one part, the community was another part, creativity with computer was what sealed the deal ;) I would be really interested to be part of the next mail list and see where that lead us all - of course I would love to see a nice broth on Debian that include the main tools I use (puredata, fluxus,sc, processing, arduino, yeah I know java :S ) - some sort of puredyne with less complex maintenance (so I could be more of help) - bt I realize that even that is a lot of work! For the moment, I moved to a clean debian for my main machine, puredyne for the audio machine and Crunch Bang for my Dj gear (#! is quite a interesting community base distribution that worth checking out by the way) But I have been on the lookout for a puredyne type of system, which doesn't seem to exist :S Thank you for the community, Thank you Aymeric and the whole Dev team ;) the future seems promising :D On 06.02.2012 03:31, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Dear Dan, Puredyne community, I have been a pretty quiet reader of this list since a while. I manly use debian these days. Always loved Puredyne, burning the iso popping it in any machine and having all the (especially audio- in my case) stuff I like. I remember - now a few years ago - getting hold of a Puredyne iso using my university's connection - hey don't tell enyone ;) - burning it and thinking wow multimedia on linux exists. and works :) Many things evolved since then... Recently used it in a workshop about linux + music - (mac) people are always positively surprised by this polished, full-working system which 'just works' out of a CD. For what it may be worth, all I can personally add is a big thank you to all the people who in a way or another contributed to this great FLOSS + creativity project. And wish tham all the best for their dreams, future, and art. Ciao, Lorenzo. PS: I would be very interested in the proposed FLOSS + art list. On 05/02/12 19:59, Dan S wrote: Dear Puredyne community, As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as far as an alpha release. This alpha release was our last soup. Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be a pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent soup as our final gift rather than something that could be potentially substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous Andalusian dish). Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we faced in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own artistic OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down designed general purpose multimedia system. All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around for nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), etc. Life, really. Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last things. First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It lives on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and then, some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a birthday party, to quickly generate an
Re: [puredyne] announcement from the Puredyne developers
Dear Dan, Puredyne community, I have been a pretty quiet reader of this list since a while. I manly use debian these days. Always loved Puredyne, burning the iso popping it in any machine and having all the (especially audio- in my case) stuff I like. I remember - now a few years ago - getting hold of a Puredyne iso using my university's connection - hey don't tell enyone ;) - burning it and thinking wow multimedia on linux exists. and works :) Many things evolved since then... Recently used it in a workshop about linux + music - (mac) people are always positively surprised by this polished, full-working system which 'just works' out of a CD. For what it may be worth, all I can personally add is a big thank you to all the people who in a way or another contributed to this great FLOSS + creativity project. And wish tham all the best for their dreams, future, and art. Ciao, Lorenzo. PS: I would be very interested in the proposed FLOSS + art list. On 05/02/12 19:59, Dan S wrote: Dear Puredyne community, As you might have noticed, Puredyne's development has somewhat stalled with our latest release being Carrot and Coriander. While still working perfectly on most machines, this release is now pretty old. If you follow the list and IRC regularly you are aware that we have been working on a new version, Gazpacho, for a little while now, and got as far as an alpha release. This alpha release was our last soup. Truth is, some annoying bugs have held us back from releasing a new stable Puredyne, and we have been struggling to find the time, motivation and energy to get the job done. As a matter of fact this is has been delayed so much that at this point, even if we would fix everything *right now*, this release would already be out of sync with upstream. You can imagine that porting, updating and patching the same packages over and over again is certainly frustrating. Next to that, Carrot and Coriander is a great relase and it would be a pity to hack together a new version just for the sake of bumping the version number. We would like to leave the community with a decent soup as our final gift rather than something that could be potentially substandard (OK you're supposed to serve gazpacho cold, but at the moment it looks more like a garlicky tomato soup than the famous Andalusian dish). Of course, we can talk in details about the technical issues we faced in the development of Gazpacho, the growing commercialism of Ubuntu and the general feeling, that grew amongst some of us in the last years, that we should instead teach people to hack their own artistic OS and tune it for their practice rather than provide a top-down designed general purpose multimedia system. All these are valid points, yet there is something else to it, something more profound to this decision. Puredyne has been around for nearly a decade, it's time to let go of the project. Nothing lasts forever, everybody moves one, interests shift, people get jobs, get fired, resume their studies, have children (4 babies were born in the dev group so far and another one is on the way), etc. Life, really. Now, before closing the list it might be worth to mention two last things. First of all, Puredyne was built with a script called broth. It lives on top of Debian's live tools. With this script it is possible to build all sorts of Debian or Ubuntu live distros. Every now and then, some of us have the need, for an installation, a workshop, a birthday party, to quickly generate an audiovisual oriented live USB/DD/CD/DVD. Broth is very handy for that, so that's why we will be still using it, hence possibly developing it further whenever we need it (current version lives here: https://launchpad.net/broth ). The second point concerns the community aspect of Puredyne. While there is no point in keeping this list running, we want to ask you all if you would be interested to join a new list to keep on talking/discussing about the practice of free software related art, music and design (get help on installing and using distros and free software for artistic practices, but also a place to announce/present your projects, look for collaborators, etc). No strings attached, just an idea, but one that may be useful for users/former users of Puredyne - based around our initial goal to support FLOSS + art practice for ourselves and others, where we saw a gap that needed filling. Send a mail off-list to puredyne-t...@goto10.org. If we get a few positive responses we'll make a list and subscribe those who contacted us. I think that's it for now. Puredyne was a great project, we learned a lot, we had great fun. We thank you all for supporting us and having been around all these years. :* --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne
