Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager] Allow email adresses with a toplevel domain of up to 63 characters

2015-10-01 Thread Cesar Peschiera

Many thanks for your reply Emmanuel

But i think that such options should be well known by all. Who has not had a 
problem of SPAM?, or Who has not tried to strengthen security in his mail 
server to avoid sending Spam?. And it is for the danger reasons of SPAM that 
i don't want configure my email server with relays when the mail server is 
out of the LAN.


Moreover, if the PVE developers don't think that such options are good, if 
anybody can tell me how configure my PVE host manually for that can send 
emails with auth and without a relay (and if is possible, with ssl/tls and 
port number to use), please give me a web link for that i can do a practice, 
i will be very thankful !!!.


Anyway, many thanks for your recommendations.

Best regards
Cesar

- Original Message - 
From: "Emmanuel Kasper" <e.kas...@proxmox.com>

To: "Cesar Peschiera" <br...@click.com.py>; <pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager] Allow email adresses with a 
toplevel domain of up to 63 characters




Hi

Please, let me to do a question:

Several mail servers require auth for accept a message (for after send
it to
addressee), so my question is if is possible add this option in PVE GUI.
(and if is possible, also choose a port number, and a SSL/TLS connection)

Notes:
1)All programs that i know has these options for choose, and i think that
will be fantastic have these options enabled in PVE.

2) When i administer the mail server, and the server is in the LAN, i
configure a relay in the mail server for each PVE node, but such setup
isn't
the ideal, and when the mail Server is out of the LAN (ie, in the WAN),
such
setup is not recommended (for avoid the problems of SPAM that may have 
the

computers into the LAN), so i can not configure the send of mails in the
PVE
nodes that are into the LAN... :-(

Best regards
Cesar



Hi Cesare !

You ask a goodf question, but unfortunately we cannot add a checkbox in
the Web GUI for every bit and blob option that a SMTP server or Qemu 
knows.

If we do this, we satisfy the power users, at the expense of getting 80%
of the users confused by having even more options for simple tasks

It is much better to propose sane defaults in the UI which cover most of
the use case, and leave the extra bits to manual editing of the
configuration files.
postfix is a depency of pve-manager, so all proxmox hosts have it
installed. So instead of fiddling with SSL expiration date in
pve-manager, it is much better to delegate the handling of this to 
postfix.


Now going back to the situation of having the SMP relayhost outside from
the LAN, I see at least two ways of setting that up:

* you can configure the relayhost, to only relay mail coming from your
LAN external IP adress

* as an extra step you can also configure postfix on the proxmox host to
send email via SSL and Authentification to your relayhost, there is a
good howto on that here, using Google SMTP servers as the relayhost but
it should work with any mail server.
http://mhawthorne.net/posts/postfix-configuring-gmail-as-relay.html

Best Regards
Emmanuel










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Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager] Allow email adresses with a toplevel domain of up to 63 characters

2015-09-30 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
> Hi
> 
> Please, let me to do a question:
> 
> Several mail servers require auth for accept a message (for after send
> it to
> addressee), so my question is if is possible add this option in PVE GUI.
> (and if is possible, also choose a port number, and a SSL/TLS connection)
> 
> Notes:
> 1)All programs that i know has these options for choose, and i think that
> will be fantastic have these options enabled in PVE.
> 
> 2) When i administer the mail server, and the server is in the LAN, i
> configure a relay in the mail server for each PVE node, but such setup
> isn't
> the ideal, and when the mail Server is out of the LAN (ie, in the WAN),
> such
> setup is not recommended (for avoid the problems of SPAM that may have the
> computers into the LAN), so i can not configure the send of mails in the
> PVE
> nodes that are into the LAN... :-(
> 
> Best regards
> Cesar


Hi Cesare !

You ask a goodf question, but unfortunately we cannot add a checkbox in
the Web GUI for every bit and blob option that a SMTP server or Qemu knows.
If we do this, we satisfy the power users, at the expense of getting 80%
of the users confused by having even more options for simple tasks

It is much better to propose sane defaults in the UI which cover most of
the use case, and leave the extra bits to manual editing of the
configuration files.
postfix is a depency of pve-manager, so all proxmox hosts have it
installed. So instead of fiddling with SSL expiration date in
pve-manager, it is much better to delegate the handling of this to postfix.

Now going back to the situation of having the SMP relayhost outside from
the LAN, I see at least two ways of setting that up:

* you can configure the relayhost, to only relay mail coming from your
LAN external IP adress

* as an extra step you can also configure postfix on the proxmox host to
send email via SSL and Authentification to your relayhost, there is a
good howto on that here, using Google SMTP servers as the relayhost but
it should work with any mail server.
http://mhawthorne.net/posts/postfix-configuring-gmail-as-relay.html

Best Regards
Emmanuel








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Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager] Allow email adresses with a toplevel domain of up to 63 characters

2015-09-26 Thread Cesar Peschiera
- Original Message - 
From: "Emmanuel Kasper" <e.kas...@proxmox.com>

To: <pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:40 AM
Subject: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager] Allow email adresses with a
toplevel domain of up to 63 characters



This patch allows email adresses of the form john.public@company.hamburg
This fixes the bug: https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716

Note that this patch only deals will the client side validation, a
separate deals with the server side validation
(http://pve.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-devel/2015-September/017246.html)


Hi

Please, let me to do a question:

Several mail servers require auth for accept a message (for after send it to
addressee), so my question is if is possible add this option in PVE GUI.
(and if is possible, also choose a port number, and a SSL/TLS connection)

Notes:
1)All programs that i know has these options for choose, and i think that
will be fantastic have these options enabled in PVE.

2) When i administer the mail server, and the server is in the LAN, i
configure a relay in the mail server for each PVE node, but such setup isn't
the ideal, and when the mail Server is out of the LAN (ie, in the WAN), such
setup is not recommended (for avoid the problems of SPAM that may have the
computers into the LAN), so i can not configure the send of mails in the PVE
nodes that are into the LAN... :-(

Best regards
Cesar

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