RE: [PyMOL] stop an accidental or problematic ray trace

2003-01-28 Thread DeLano, Warren
Anthony,

I agree that we need one, but it doesn't currently exist.  The same can be said 
for surface calculations, especially when you've loaded a 500 frame MD 
trajectory and accidentally "show surface" (doh!).

My advice: save sessions often and make liberal use of PyMOL's logging 
capability.  When you goof up, kill the process and then reopen the session or 
resume the log file after editing out the offending command(s).

Cheers,
Warren

(Hmm...A save session button might be nice...)
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> -Original Message-
> From: Anthony Duff [mailto:a.d...@staff.usyd.edu.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] stop an accidental or problematic ray trace
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It would be nice if there were a button to stop a ray trace, 
> for when it is 
> started accidentally, or if something is wrong and it is 
> taking too long.
> 
> 
> Is there one?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[PyMOL] stop an accidental or problematic ray trace

2003-01-28 Thread Anthony Duff



It would be nice if there were a button to stop a ray trace, for when it is 
started accidentally, or if something is wrong and it is taking too long.



Is there one?




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Re: [PyMOL] non-related question & related: electrostatics

2003-01-28 Thread Douglas Kojetin

Thanks for the reply ...

Do you have a list of which programs pymol might accept input from?

Thanks again-
Doug

DeLano, Warren wrote:


Doug,

(1) I've got a hard deadline to have this capability in the program 
less than 1 month from now...not the pot. calc., just the import, rendition, 
and coloring.

(2) no clue

Warren


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-Original Message-
From: Douglas Kojetin [mailto:djkoj...@unity.ncsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:14 PM
To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [PyMOL] non-related question & related: electrostatics


Hi All-

I'll ask my related question first: does anyone know if/when 
electrostatic calculations might be incorporated into pymol?  
Or if you 
can import calcs from another (hopefully free) program?


Unrelated question: does anyone know of a secondary structure 
prediction 
program that outputs "pretty" graphics to related 'helix' and 'sheet' 
structures?  similar to how ESPript outputs ... but i do not have an 
input PDB file (yet) to use that program


Thanks,
Doug




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RE: [PyMOL] q: discrete colors and adjacent cartoon segments

2003-01-28 Thread DeLano, Warren
Bartholomeus,

You have run into limitations in PyMOL's handling of single objects.

The answer to both these questions is to split your molecule into multiple 
object and color/show independently.  Use the "create" command to make copies, 
and then use alter to reassign secondary structure codes where needed.

Warren

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> -Original Message-
> From: Bartholomeus Kuettner [mailto:bkuett...@epost.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:06 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] q: discrete colors and adjacent cartoon segments
> 
> 
> Dear PyMol users,
> 
> 1.
> I'm puzzled with a coloring problem while coloring a protein molecule
> accordingly to its secondary structure by using 'discrete 
> color' option:
> If there are a helix and/or strand adjacent together (e.g. 
> helix from 1-10
> and sheet from 11-20) the small pseudo-loop region between 
> (arising from
> atoms between last Calpha of the helix and first Calpha of 
> the strand) gets
> colored like the latter partner (maybe because of its color 
> was defined at
> last). What I'd like to do is to color this small pseudo loop 
> in a different
> color. I've tried to color the atoms between last Calpha and 
> next Calpha
> (C,N) individually but there was no effect. It seems to me, 
> that cartoon
> coloring only corresponds to Calpha positions. So, is there a 
> way around to
> color cartoon regions between secondary structure elements as 
> described
> before?
> 
> 2.
> Is there a way to force PyMol to draw a cartoon which shows 
> two different
> secondary strcuture elements (helix, strand) ending and 
> beginning at the
> same residue? Maybe one can image a scenario where the N atom makes a
> strand-like conformation while the CO group of the same 
> residue starts with
> a helix. In another program it is/was possible to assign 
> helix and strand
> ending and beginning in the same residue but when I try to 
> perfom with PyMol
> only the last partner is shown correctly while the first partner gets
> overrided in its last residue, e.g. cartoon "strand 1-10" and 
> "helix 10-20"
> looks the same like "strand 1-9" and "helix 10-20". How one 
> could circumvent
> this dilemma?
> 
> Many thanks in advance!
> 
> Greetings,
> Bartholomeus
> 
> 
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RE: [PyMOL] non-related question & related: electrostatics

2003-01-28 Thread DeLano, Warren
Doug,

(1) I've got a hard deadline to have this capability in the program 
less than 1 month from now...not the pot. calc., just the import, rendition, 
and coloring.

(2) no clue

Warren


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mailto:war...@sunesis.com
Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. 
Informatics Manager 
Sunesis Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 
341 Oyster Point Blvd. 
S. San Francisco, CA 94080 
(650)-266-3606 FAX:(650)-266-3501



> -Original Message-
> From: Douglas Kojetin [mailto:djkoj...@unity.ncsu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] non-related question & related: electrostatics
> 
> 
> Hi All-
> 
> I'll ask my related question first: does anyone know if/when 
> electrostatic calculations might be incorporated into pymol?  
> Or if you 
> can import calcs from another (hopefully free) program?
> 
> Unrelated question: does anyone know of a secondary structure 
> prediction 
> program that outputs "pretty" graphics to related 'helix' and 'sheet' 
> structures?  similar to how ESPript outputs ... but i do not have an 
> input PDB file (yet) to use that program
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[PyMOL] non-related question & related: electrostatics

2003-01-28 Thread Douglas Kojetin

Hi All-

I'll ask my related question first: does anyone know if/when 
electrostatic calculations might be incorporated into pymol?  Or if you 
can import calcs from another (hopefully free) program?


Unrelated question: does anyone know of a secondary structure prediction 
program that outputs "pretty" graphics to related 'helix' and 'sheet' 
structures?  similar to how ESPript outputs ... but i do not have an 
input PDB file (yet) to use that program


Thanks,
Doug





[PyMOL] q: discrete colors and adjacent cartoon segments

2003-01-28 Thread Bartholomeus Kuettner
Dear PyMol users,

1.
I'm puzzled with a coloring problem while coloring a protein molecule
accordingly to its secondary structure by using 'discrete color' option:
If there are a helix and/or strand adjacent together (e.g. helix from 1-10
and sheet from 11-20) the small pseudo-loop region between (arising from
atoms between last Calpha of the helix and first Calpha of the strand) gets
colored like the latter partner (maybe because of its color was defined at
last). What I'd like to do is to color this small pseudo loop in a different
color. I've tried to color the atoms between last Calpha and next Calpha
(C,N) individually but there was no effect. It seems to me, that cartoon
coloring only corresponds to Calpha positions. So, is there a way around to
color cartoon regions between secondary structure elements as described
before?

2.
Is there a way to force PyMol to draw a cartoon which shows two different
secondary strcuture elements (helix, strand) ending and beginning at the
same residue? Maybe one can image a scenario where the N atom makes a
strand-like conformation while the CO group of the same residue starts with
a helix. In another program it is/was possible to assign helix and strand
ending and beginning in the same residue but when I try to perfom with PyMol
only the last partner is shown correctly while the first partner gets
overrided in its last residue, e.g. cartoon "strand 1-10" and "helix 10-20"
looks the same like "strand 1-9" and "helix 10-20". How one could circumvent
this dilemma?

Many thanks in advance!

Greetings,
Bartholomeus




[PyMOL] Installation of PyMol on Macs

2003-01-28 Thread Uwe . Hobohm
I found the receipes on your homepage to install PyMol on Macs kind of 
convoluted, so here is what I figured after some working hours:

Installation on Mac-OsX 10.2

1) Download fink from www.apple.com and install
2) add "source /sw/bin/init.csh" to /etc/csh.login to let the system know about 
fink
3) sudo fink configure (give as proxy something like http://www-cache.fh-
giessen.de:3128)
4) get cvs-proxy..info and cvs-proxypatch from http://
fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-fink.php and put them into /sw/fink/dists/local/
main/finkinfo
5) sudo fink install cvs-proxy
6) cd to folder pymol-0.86; sudo fink update-all
7) open X11-Terminal
8) start pymol: /sw/bin/pymol & 

Best
Uwe Hobohm