Re: [PyMOL] about Display CCP4 Maps

2011-10-26 Thread Joel Tyndall
Hi Lina,

Could you be more specific about what you are trying to do. E.g. I have a 
structure from the pdb and I would like to display the density.

If it is this option then you can automatically generate ccp4 type maps from 
http://eds.bmc.uu.se/eds/ assuming the structure factors have been deposited. 
You can them load these into pymol (file.ccp4)

Or I am determining the structure of a protein ligand complex and I wish to 
calculate the electron density map .

If this is the case I would suggest some further reading of the ccp4 tutorials. 
These come with ccp4i

Hope this helps

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-Original Message-
From: lina [mailto:lina.lastn...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2011 1:27 a.m.
To: Thomas Holder
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] about Display CCP4 Maps

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Thomas Holder spel...@users.sourceforge.net 
wrote:
 Hi Lina,

 do you already have any electron density or reflection file (*.map, 
 *.mtz,
 ...) or do you want to create a fake density from your structure? 
 It's not


I don't have the reference electron density file.

mainly wish to calculate a density map based on the structure?

 clear from your question.

 Cheers,
Thanks for asking.

  Thomas

 On 10/25/2011 10:28 AM, lina wrote:

 Hi,

 I went through the pymolwiki and cross this page:

 http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Display_CCP4_Maps

 I have some questions:

 1] do I need generate the map from ccp4

  (I have already installed the ccp4i, but seems not easy to know how 
 to get the map)

 2] For small molecular (ligand), the ccp4 is the best way to obtain 
 its  electron density map?

 Seems those questions are not so-pymol-related, but I wish if someone 
 are familiar with this, can give me some advice??

 Those questions might be easy, but to me at present it seems very 
 confusing.

 Thanks with best regards,

 --
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 MPI for Developmental Biology


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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi Alexander,

by default PyMOL recognized secondary structure as the minimum consensus 
over all states. So if a residue is not recognized as helix or sheet in 
_all_ states, it will be assigned as loop. You might be happy with this:

# type after loading the file
dss state=1

For detailed explanation what values are valid for the state argument 
see the PyMOLWiki page:
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dss

Cheers,
   Thomas

On 10/26/2011 11:04 AM, Alexander Schulz wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm quite new to Pymol and I hope that I don't ask something that has
 been answered several times before, but I didn't find anything about
 this topic that could solve my problem.

 I've prepared a .pdb file containing one protein at different times in
 the simulation. I'd like to prepare a video from this file, which is why
 I'd like to keep everything in one .pdb file.

 When I select cartoon as a representation, the backbone is visualized
 as a tibe (as always), but no secondary strucutres are recognized. When
 I copy one of the snaphots out of the .pdb and open in seperately, the
 secondary structure is shown correctly.

 How can I make Pymol show the structure of the multible states in one
 file correctly?

 Thanks in advance for answers!

 Cheers,
 Alexander

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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Alexander Schulz
Hi Thomas,

thank you very much for the answer, I'm beginning to understand the
actual problem now. 

dss state=1 
helps, but it changes the problem: I would like to see the secondary
structure that corresponds to the single snapshot. When I use dss
state=1, I just see the secondary structure of the first snapshot in all
snapshots. 

Is there a way to calculate the secondary structure for each individual
snapshot stored in this single .pdb file?

Cheers,
Alexander

Am Mittwoch, den 26.10.2011, 12:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Holder:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 by default PyMOL recognized secondary structure as the minimum consensus 
 over all states. So if a residue is not recognized as helix or sheet in 
 _all_ states, it will be assigned as loop. You might be happy with this:
 
 # type after loading the file
 dss state=1
 
 For detailed explanation what values are valid for the state argument 
 see the PyMOLWiki page:
 http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dss
 
 Cheers,
Thomas
 
 On 10/26/2011 11:04 AM, Alexander Schulz wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I'm quite new to Pymol and I hope that I don't ask something that has
  been answered several times before, but I didn't find anything about
  this topic that could solve my problem.
 
  I've prepared a .pdb file containing one protein at different times in
  the simulation. I'd like to prepare a video from this file, which is why
  I'd like to keep everything in one .pdb file.
 
  When I select cartoon as a representation, the backbone is visualized
  as a tibe (as always), but no secondary strucutres are recognized. When
  I copy one of the snaphots out of the .pdb and open in seperately, the
  secondary structure is shown correctly.
 
  How can I make Pymol show the structure of the multible states in one
  file correctly?
 
  Thanks in advance for answers!
 
  Cheers,
  Alexander
 



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Re: [PyMOL] how to activate pymol from remote server

2011-10-26 Thread grantaka36
Hi Thomas, Troels and Alvin,

I appreciate your instant and detail advices to my problem, I got
succeeded - scripting in [C] enabled activate pymol in [S]. As Troels
says, I agree it's not pymol issue indeed, and sorry for contaminating
some questions to here list.

What is done:
  laptop$ ssh -l (loginName) (remote-machine)   # tried ssh -Y or -X,
but simply this succeeded
  login@(remote-machine)$ export DISPLAY=:0.0# it seemed the
point, somehow not enough laptop:0.0
  login@(remote-machine)$ xclock #worked
  login@(remote-machine)$ pymol #worked

Referred from:
 laptop# xhost +remote-machine

 laptop# ssh -l loginName  remote-machine

 login@remote-machine# export DISPLAY=laptop:0.0
 login@remote-machine# xterm             - see if it works
 login@remote-machine# pymol

More I want to quit pymol GUI from [C], but 'pymol -qip' will be fit
as Thomas says. Thanks again for all.

Regards,
Masataka

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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Robert Campbell
Hi Alexander,

On Wed, 2011-10-26 12:53  EDT,  Alexander Schulz
sch...@dwi.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 Hi Thomas,
 
 thank you very much for the answer, I'm beginning to understand the
 actual problem now. 
 
 dss state=1 
 helps, but it changes the problem: I would like to see the secondary
 structure that corresponds to the single snapshot. When I use dss
 state=1, I just see the secondary structure of the first snapshot in all
 snapshots. 
 
 Is there a way to calculate the secondary structure for each individual
 snapshot stored in this single .pdb file?

Yes, simply load the pdb file with the discrete=1 flag:

load md_file.pdb, discrete=1
dss md_file

Setting the discrete flag causes PyMOL to store more information
(B-factors, secondary structure) with each atom of each state -- so it can
also be noticeably slower to load and uses more memory.

Cheers,
Rob

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