Re: [PyMOL] H-bonds representation

2011-11-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
While the single acceptor H-bond is most common, bifurcated (or three-centred) 
H-bods are 
not uncommon in crystal structures, as described starting page 22 of GA 
Jeffrey's book:
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Hydrogen-Bonding-Physical-Chemistry/dp/0195095499/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322331503&sr=8-2

James Starlight wrote:
> Thomas, thank you for so detailed explanation.
>
> This way works good but I'd like to ask you about possibe Hbonds in the 
> protein chain.
>
> As I remember for protein physics courses the H atom is always donor for only 
> ONE H-bond (
> and O or N atoms could be akceptors for 1 or 2 Hbonds)
>
> But In my case there are some cases where H atom ( white ) is donor for the 2 
> Hbonds.  By
> the way I found the same on the picture in WIKI too.
>
> How it could be explaned ?
>
> James
>
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Re: [PyMOL] H-bonds representation

2011-11-26 Thread James Starlight
Thomas, thank you for so detailed explanation.

This way works good but I'd like to ask you about possibe Hbonds in the
protein chain.

As I remember for protein physics courses the H atom is always donor for
only ONE H-bond ( and O or N atoms could be akceptors for 1 or 2 Hbonds)

But In my case there are some cases where H atom ( white ) is donor for the
2 Hbonds.  By the way I found the same on the picture in WIKI too.

How it could be explaned ?

James
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Re: [PyMOL] Editing of the pdb structure

2011-11-26 Thread James Starlight
Dear all! :)

I need to merge two chains in one pdb ( object) into one united chain. How
I could do it?

Thanks

James

2011/11/18 Joel Tyndall 

>  James,
>
> ** **
>
> Please post this to the bulletin board. You can try to click on the word
> (residues usually default) at the bottom right of the viewer.
>
> ** **
>
> Joel
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Starlight [mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 November 2011 7:52 a.m.
>
> *To:* Joel Tyndall
> *Subject:* Re: [PyMOL] Editing of the pdb structure
>
> ** **
>
> Another question about working with the structure.
>
>
> I have structure of the fulerene molecule wich consist of 60 carbon atoms
>
> I switch to the Sequence mode-> Atoms and try to select individual carbon
> atoms ( e.g I want to find where this atom situated in my molecule). But
> instead of selection of the individual carbons the whole molecule was
> selected. How I can work with individual atoms of my structure ?
>
> James
>
> 2011/11/15 James Starlight 
>
> Thanks Joel, it's clear now :)
>
> ** **
>
> 2011/11/14 Joel Tyndall 
>
> See attached.
>
>  
>
> To switch to editing mode click on 3 button viewing or use the menu
>
>  
>
> Mouse > 3 button editing
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* James Starlight [mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 14 November 2011 8:44 p.m.
> *To:* Joel Tyndall
> *Subject:* Re: [PyMOL] Editing of the pdb structure
>
>  
>
> Dear all, thank you for the advises :)
>
> Thomas,
>
> when I've tried to add ACE cap to the N-tem of the first residue of my
> peptide I've obtain
>
> Error: unable to load fragment ''.
>
> So how I should define dirr from wich those caps groups will be loaded?
>
>
> Joel,
>
> I could not find such buiilder button :o
>
> when I've tried to select individual atoms from my FOR residue ( from
> sequence panell), the overal residue with all atoms was selected instead :o
>
> James
>
> 2011/11/11 Joel Tyndall 
>
> Hi James,
>
>  
>
> If I am correct in reading what you want you wish to change the FOR group
> to an ACE.
>
>  
>
> I am using a PC version 1.3. Click on the builder button (right hand side
> of grey GUI)
>
> Make sure you are in Mouse mode: 3 button editing.
>
>  
>
> Click on the carbon of the FOR group and also the oxygen ( a white ball
> will appear on each atom)
>
> Then in the GUI click on the || icon adjacent to “bonds create”. This will
> give you the carbonyl.
>
> Now click on the hydrogen attached to the carbonyl carbon and then click
> in the GUI, the carbon atom C.
>
> This has now created your Acetylated nitrogen.
>
>  
>
> Then save molecule as: and you can edit the text file to change For to ACE.
> 
>
>  
>
> Given this is some sort of dimer, I have just noticed that the second
> chain will overlap with the first.
>
>  
>
> Hope this helps
>
>  
>
> Joel 
>
>  
>
> *From:* James Starlight [mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 November 2011 1:44 a.m.
> *To:* pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject:* [PyMOL] Editing of the pdb structure
>
>  
>
> Dear PyMol Users!
>
>
>
> Recently I've opened such topic but I didnt obtain answer on this question
> so I try to paraphrase my task. Also I want to specify this topic on
> questions lincked with the processing of pdbs.
>
> 1) I need to remove some elements fron my structure described as the
> individual residue and place another element of the same size on the place
> of the first element.
>
> In particular I have two  different peptides both of wich have small cap
> groups on C and N termi. ( attached)
>
> I need to remove all caps ( two caps FOR and ETA because there are two
> identical chains in that structure) from the 1MAG structure and build
> exactly on this place another cap groups wich I'd like to copy from the
> second peptide ( KALP). So I'd like to change FOR- > ACE and ETA-> NH2
> twisely for the 1MAG dtructure
>
> How I can perform such task in PyMol?
>
> James
>
>  
>
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[PyMOL] sterioscopic 3D using ATI HD6800 under linux

2011-11-26 Thread cedric . dewijs
Hi All,

I would like to have sterioscopic 3D support under linux. I know this can
be done with a nvidia Quadro card, as shown on your supported platform page:
http://pymol.org/support/platforms

I have found that the HD6800 series from AMD has support for sterioscopic
3D and Quad Buffered OpenGL. See the below links for details:
http://3dvision-blog.com/ati-has-announced-its-open-stereo-3d-initiative-at-gdc-2010/
http://69.65.116.162/discussions.x/19853

Before I go out and buy a new PC, I would like to know if the HD6800 series
can actually create a sterioscopic 3D  image under linux. Could anybody tell
me if this works? 

Maybe a bit off-topic on this list, are there any linux games that use 
sterioscopic
3D?

Best regards and thanks in advance,
Cedric

   




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Re: [PyMOL] H-bonds representation

2011-11-26 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi James,

> As I've understood there are no posible ways to represent H-bonds in
> proteins in explicit manner. So I'm looking for possible way to do it
> via some plugin or another way.

PyMOL can find polar contacts and represent them as dashed lines. You 
don't need any extra plugin.

http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Displaying_Biochemical_Properties#Hydrogen_bonds_and_Polar_Contacts

It's the "distance" command with mode=2 that does the job.

http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Distance

There are various dash_* settings that control the appearance of the 
dashed lines:

http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dash_Length
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dash_color
(and many others...)

> In particular I need
> 1) to visualize H-bonds in some structural motifs like coiled coil wich
> are dimers of alpha helices  ( so I'd like to see H-bonds beetwen
> separate alpha helices )

Try this (lets say helix 1 is resi 1-100 and helix 2 is resi 101-200):

# add hydrogens (if not already present)
h_add donors

# detect polar contacts
distance hb_coiled_coil, resi 1-100, resi 101-200, mode=2

> 2) to visualize H-bonds in spicified SS structure ( e.g during formation
> of the alpha helices)- so I'd like to see H-bonds beetwen amide and
> Carboxy groups in specified amino acid sequence.

just like example 1, but with other selections:

distance hb_backbone, name O, name N, mode=2

> 3) Finally I'd like to check H-bond in protein-ligand complex ( beetwenn
> specified ligand groups as well as some amino acid residues of the
> ligand binding pocket)

just like before, but with ligand as selection 1 and receptor as 
selection 2.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
   Thomas

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