Re: [PyMOL] One window instead external and internal windows
If you don't want GLUT to be linked in as a fallback, compile with --no-glut (See https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Linux_Install#Compile_and_install ) Tcl/Tk could be loaded if there is an activated plugin which imports it. PyMOL does some trickery to provide the event loop for Tkinter from the PyQt thread to support old plugins. Cheers, Thomas > On Oct 16, 2018, at 6:59 PM, David Mathog wrote: > > On 16-Oct-2018 00:07, Thomas Holder wrote: >>> On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:38 PM, David Mathog wrote: >>> There must be something about Qt that is a significant improvement over >>> Tk/Tcl - where/what is that? >> It's not only Tk/Tcl, it's also GLUT which got replaced. > > GLUT still seems to be there though, and the link libraries are loaded to > some extent even when Qt starts. > > On Windows 7 ntldd shows _cmd.pyd linked to libfreeglut.dll. > On linux (ubuntu 16.04 LTS) ldd shows _cmd.so linked to libglut.so.3. > > Start the linux pymol, it finds and uses Qt, then: > > lsof | grep glut > python3010root mem REG8,5 236564 > 1978217 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglut.so.3.9.0 > QXcbEvent 3010 3012 root mem REG8,5 236564 > 1978217 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglut.so.3.9.0 > > lsof also shows > > python3010root mem REG8,5 1475144 > 1975104 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtk8.6.so > QXcbEvent 3010 3012 root mem REG8,5 1475144 > 1975104 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtk8.6.so > > and it is clearly using Qt, so perhaps some of the libraries lsof/ldd show > are linked but are not called if Qt is used. > >> So on the >> pure "bug-fix list", we have: >> - HiDPI support (we've seen unusable graphics on Intel/Windows) >> - viewport size issues with multiple screens on Windows >> On top of that, we get: >> - trackpad support (pinch zoom) >> - file open with drag-n-drop > > Which of those fixes, if any, require Qt? > > Thanks, > > David Mathog > mat...@caltech.edu > Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech -- Thomas Holder PyMOL Principal Developer Schrödinger, Inc. ___ PyMOL-users mailing list Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/lists/pymol-users/unsubscribe
Re: [PyMOL] One window instead external and internal windows
On 16-Oct-2018 00:07, Thomas Holder wrote: On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:38 PM, David Mathog wrote: There must be something about Qt that is a significant improvement over Tk/Tcl - where/what is that? It's not only Tk/Tcl, it's also GLUT which got replaced. GLUT still seems to be there though, and the link libraries are loaded to some extent even when Qt starts. On Windows 7 ntldd shows _cmd.pyd linked to libfreeglut.dll. On linux (ubuntu 16.04 LTS) ldd shows _cmd.so linked to libglut.so.3. Start the linux pymol, it finds and uses Qt, then: lsof | grep glut python3010root mem REG8,5 236564 1978217 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglut.so.3.9.0 QXcbEvent 3010 3012 root mem REG8,5 236564 1978217 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglut.so.3.9.0 lsof also shows python3010root mem REG8,5 1475144 1975104 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtk8.6.so QXcbEvent 3010 3012 root mem REG8,5 1475144 1975104 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtk8.6.so and it is clearly using Qt, so perhaps some of the libraries lsof/ldd show are linked but are not called if Qt is used. So on the pure "bug-fix list", we have: - HiDPI support (we've seen unusable graphics on Intel/Windows) - viewport size issues with multiple screens on Windows On top of that, we get: - trackpad support (pinch zoom) - file open with drag-n-drop Which of those fixes, if any, require Qt? Thanks, David Mathog mat...@caltech.edu Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech ___ PyMOL-users mailing list Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/lists/pymol-users/unsubscribe
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Re: [PyMOL] One window instead external and internal windows
Hi Itamar, > On Oct 16, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Itamar Kass wrote: > > I have used the one from the ubuntu repositories. Is it preferably to > manually compile it? Preferable is to use Schrödinger-provided bundles from https://pymol.org/ ;-) If the Ubuntu-provided bundle isn't working as you expect, you should file a bug report with Ubuntu. Cheers, Thomas -- Thomas Holder PyMOL Principal Developer Schrödinger, Inc. ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/lists/pymol-users/unsubscribe
Re: [PyMOL] One window instead external and internal windows
> On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:38 PM, David Mathog wrote: > > There must be something about Qt that is a significant improvement over > Tk/Tcl - where/what is that? It's not only Tk/Tcl, it's also GLUT which got replaced. So on the pure "bug-fix list", we have: - HiDPI support (we've seen unusable graphics on Intel/Windows) - viewport size issues with multiple screens on Windows On top of that, we get: - trackpad support (pinch zoom) - file open with drag-n-drop Cheers, Thomas -- Thomas Holder PyMOL Principal Developer Schrödinger, Inc. ___ PyMOL-users mailing list (PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Info Page: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/lists/pymol-users/unsubscribe
