RE: [PyMOL] How to run PyMol from within Python?

2002-07-16 Thread DeLano, Warren
> So there is no way to run and control PyMol from within 
> another python program?

If PYMOL_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and TCL_LIBRARY are correctly defined, then you 
can launch PyMOL from an external Python program as shown in 
examples/devel/start_pymol.py.  

However, this is not recommended because the PyMOL launch sequence is not 
fixed.  If you do use it, be prepared to deal with changes down the road. 

> The reason for asking is that we are working on a python platform to 
> run and evaluate protein-protein docking calculations. It would be a 
> nice feature to be able to call up interaction surfaces and 
> protein-protein clusters for display  in PyMol and then interact with 
> them from within our program.

> As things are now I'm forced to treat PyMol as I would treat any 
> molecular graphics program, that is write macros macros for it. This 
> is of course much less convenient and less flexible compared to 
> running PyMol from within our python code.

> Has anyone been able to run and quit PyMol from within python without 
> killing the interpreter? Is it possible? How?

The underlying source of the limitation here is that the GLUT and Tcl/Tk 
libraries which PyMOL uses do not support repeated set-up/take-down -- they are 
both static "global" systems which steal threads and never return.  Thus, while 
PyMOL is not inherently limited in this fashion, these building blocks which it 
employs are.  Eventually there will be versions of PyMOL which are both GLUT 
and TCL/Tk independent -- but not today.

Instead, I recommend using some kind of inter-process communication along with 
object serialization to pass data from your program into PyMOL.  Python makes 
this relatively easy, but you are looking at a little bit of development.

Sorry the news isn't better!

Warren









Re: [PyMOL] How to run PyMol from within Python?

2002-07-16 Thread Johan Leckner

Hi all,

So there is no way to run and control PyMol from within another python program?

The reason for asking is that we are working on a python platform to 
run and evaluate protein-protein docking calculations. It would be a 
nice feature to be able to call up interaction surfaces and 
protein-protein clusters for display  in PyMol and then interact with 
them from within our program.


As things are now I'm forced to treat PyMol as I would treat any 
molecular graphics program, that is write macros macros for it. This 
is of course much less convenient and less flexible compared to 
running PyMol from within our python code.


Has anyone been able to run and quit PyMol from within python without 
killing the interpreter? Is it possible? How?


Cheers, Johan




 > I'm having problems running PyMol from within another Python program.

This is not the recommended way to run PyMOL and may lead to 
problems.  You can run Python programs within PyMOL as follows:


from the command-line:

pymol example.py # synchronous, in PyMOL module
pymol -r example.py  # synchronous in __main__ module
pymol -l example.py  # asychronous in a new module

You can also launch python programs from within PyMOL with the commands:

run example.py# synchronous in pymol module
run example.py,main   # synchronous in __main__ module

spawn example.py# asychronous in a new module
spawn example.py,global # asychronous in the PyMOL module
spawn example.py,main   # asychronous in the __main__ module

see:

help launching
help run
help spawn

 > Following the examples in /pymol/examples/devel I have been able to
 > launch and controll PyMOL. The problem occur when I try to quit PyMol
 > (version. 0.82) however I do it I end up with a fault terminating my
 > Python interpreter.
 >
 > Under Redhat 7.1/Python 2.1 i get a segmentation fault and under
 > MacOS 10.1.5/Python 2.2.1 I get a Python bus error. I get the same
 > result both when quitting from the gui or within python with the
 > command cmd.quit()
 >
 > How can I quit PyMol properly?

I know for a fact that the Mac take-down process is currently 
flawed, and frequently gives a bus error.  Because it only happens 
after you quit the program, its a low priority issue...


Not sure about Redhat.

Warren





RE: [PyMOL] How to run PyMol from within Python?

2002-07-09 Thread DeLano, Warren
> From: Johan Leckner [mailto:jo...@pasteur.fr]
> 
> I'm having problems running PyMol from within another Python program.

This is not the recommended way to run PyMOL and may lead to problems.  You can 
run Python programs within PyMOL as follows:

from the command-line:

pymol example.py # synchronous, in PyMOL module
pymol -r example.py  # synchronous in __main__ module
pymol -l example.py  # asychronous in a new module

You can also launch python programs from within PyMOL with the commands:

run example.py# synchronous in pymol module
run example.py,main   # synchronous in __main__ module

spawn example.py# asychronous in a new module
spawn example.py,global # asychronous in the PyMOL module
spawn example.py,main   # asychronous in the __main__ module

see:

help launching
help run
help spawn

> Following the examples in /pymol/examples/devel I have been able to 
> launch and controll PyMOL. The problem occur when I try to quit PyMol 
> (version. 0.82) however I do it I end up with a fault terminating my 
> Python interpreter.
> 
> Under Redhat 7.1/Python 2.1 i get a segmentation fault and under 
> MacOS 10.1.5/Python 2.2.1 I get a Python bus error. I get the same 
> result both when quitting from the gui or within python with the 
> command cmd.quit()
> 
> How can I quit PyMol properly?

I know for a fact that the Mac take-down process is currently flawed, and 
frequently gives a bus error.  Because it only happens after you quit the 
program, its a low priority issue...

Not sure about Redhat.

Warren