[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

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New changeset 8b2595f68af059afdd61b2bb3d32a2bf4f1662c8 by Miss Islington (bot) 
in branch '3.9':
bpo-41858: Clarify line in optparse doc (GH-22407)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/8b2595f68af059afdd61b2bb3d32a2bf4f1662c8


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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

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Thank you.

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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

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New changeset e0e614ca99c39e107b97c7be779efea08f22ace3 by Miss Islington (bot) 
in branch '3.8':
bpo-41858: Clarify line in optparse doc (GH-22407)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/e0e614ca99c39e107b97c7be779efea08f22ace3


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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

[Terry J. Reedy]

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New changeset 00eb063b6600fdb4ba5cfb99da83cc1660ec69bf by Emmanuel Arias in 
branch 'master':
bpo-41858: Clarify line in optparse doc (GH-22407)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/00eb063b6600fdb4ba5cfb99da83cc1660ec69bf


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[issue41114] "TypeError: unhashable type" could often be more clear

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> It would be clearer if the message was something like:
> 
> TypeError: 'dict' can not be used as a set value because 
> it is an unhashable type.

IMO that doesn't help.  The trackback already shows the code where the 
exception occurred.  The user already knows the calling type, and the existing 
message tells them what type was passed in.  

Their real problem is that they still have to confront the notion of what 
"unhashable type" means and then need figure-out a way to fix it.  So the 
proposed extra information is just a distractor that doesn't get the user any 
closer to understanding or solving their problem.  

To get a user closer to the solution they would either need an explanation of 
what hashable means and/or be given a suggestion of how to fix it:

   TypeError: unhashable type: 'dict'.  Consider using an int,
   str, tuple, or frozenset.

That said, it is precarious to guess what the user intended, so it is difficult 
to suggest some form of "did you mean ..."

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[issue41869] Multiprocessing Manager Object Cleanup

[Michael L. Boom]

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I have a program that is running a multiprocessing manager.  Other programs 
connect and get proxies for objects.  If those programs close cleanly, the 
destructor in the multiprocessing manager for the corresponding object gets 
called.  If I kill that program, the destructor never gets called.  This is a 
serious problem as I can’t cleanup resources in this case.

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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

[Emmanuel Arias]

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Hi Terry and Tal Einat,

I can't say too much because I am not English native, and my English is very 
basic.

When I read the docs and the translation from python-docs-es, that sentence 
make me feel how if something is missing, but I understand the intention with 
the Terry explanation.

I will change the patch for 

``Additionally, users can run one of the following ::``

What about now?

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[issue41051] Flush file after warning is written

[Irit Katriel]

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[issue41114] "TypeError: unhashable type" could often be more clear

[Irit Katriel]

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[issue36255] Provide a simple way to delete and edit python's welcome message

[Raymond Hettinger]

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> I think this issue can be closed, there is nothing to do on it.

Right.

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[issue37378] FatalError: initfsencoding python couldn't find codec Module not found: Encodings

[Irit Katriel]

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Oh, it's closed, sorry for the noise.

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[issue37378] FatalError: initfsencoding python couldn't find codec Module not found: Encodings

[Irit Katriel]

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Is this issue resolved?

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[issue41848] PEG parser doesn't allow lambda in for_if_clause

[Guido van Rossum]

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Okay, let's close this.

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[issue23706] pathlib.Path.write_text should include a newline argument

[Maxim Burov]

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[issue41848] PEG parser doesn't allow lambda in for_if_clause

[Pablo Galindo Salgado]

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I concur with Guido: it makes the grammar slightly more complex for no gain. 
Also, the originally allowed rule does not allow *any* lambda but only the ones 
that are simple, which is a special case that makes it even more complex. In 
any case you can use parentheses to break this limitation.

Like Guido, I propose to add a very small comment to What's New in 3.9

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[issue36255] Provide a simple way to delete and edit python's welcome message

[Irit Katriel]

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I think this issue can be closed, there is nothing to do on it.

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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

[Raymond Hettinger]

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The primary documentation for super() is here:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#super

At the bottom it references a guide to using super() that you might find 
helpful:
https://rhettinger.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/super-considered-super/

The standard library source code has many examples.  In particular, the 
argparse module makes heavy use of super():
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.8/Lib/argparse.py

The tutorial provides some light discussion:
https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/classes.html#multiple-inheritance

There is also an FAQ entry:
https://docs.python.org/3/faq/programming.html#how-do-i-call-a-method-defined-in-a-base-class-from-a-derived-class-that-overrides-it

There is also extensive coverage on StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=%5Bpython%5D+super

Hope you find these links helpful.

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[issue2897] PyMemberDef missing in limited API / Deprecate structmember.h

[Erlend Egeberg Aasland]

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[issue41861] Convert sqlite3 to PEP 384

[Erlend Egeberg Aasland]

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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

[Jack W.]

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True enough, however, no search I could come up which included the term "super" 
or "__init__" returned a document near the top of the search which showed how 
to chain a superclass initializer. This can be confusing, as there are 2 
syntaxes for doing this.

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[issue38815] test_ssl: test_min_max_version() fails on FreeBSD and Fedora

[Sumagna Das]

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[issue38815] test_ssl: test_min_max_version() fails on FreeBSD and Fedora

[Sumagna Das]

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still getting this issue on Ubuntu 20.04 with the latest master checkout of 
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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

[Raymond Hettinger]

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The __init__() method isn't a feature of super().  It is a feature of the class 
being called.

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[issue35561] Valgrind reports Syscall param epoll_ctl(event) points to uninitialised byte(s)

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The valgrind bug was also fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422623.

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[issue39862] Why are the union relationships not implemented by default for ≤ and ≥?

[Raymond Hettinger]

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This issue is more of a question or objection than a bug report, so I'm going 
to mark this as closed.  

Feel free to continue the discussion on python-ideas or ask more about it on 
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[issue41868] SMTPLIB integrate or provide option to use "logging"

[KK Hiraskar]

New submission from KK Hiraskar :

Currently "smtplib" is directly printing data to stdout/stderr, and not getting 
any good way to get this data in to the logs written by "logging"

please provide an option to achieve this.

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[issue39862] Why are the union relationships not implemented by default for ≤ and ≥?

[Irit Katriel]

Irit Katriel  added the comment:

The PEP that Raymond linked to says:

"Further smarts could have been added to the comparison mechanism, but this 
limited set of allowed "swaps" was chosen because it doesn't require the 
infrastructure to do any processing (negation) of return values. The choice of 
six special methods was made over a single (e.g. __richcmp__) method to allow 
the dispatching on the opcode to be performed at the level of the C 
implementation rather than the user-defined method."


The pseudo code you suggested assumes that the results of comparisons can be 
interpreted as booleans, which not always correct and makes your suggestion 
under-specified.  It is not easy to devise a sound and intuitive composition of 
boolean expressions whose semantics are user-defined. 


As an aside, I think for the boolean case it is enough that one of them is not 
NotImplemented, so your pseudo code should have been:

def __le__(self, other):
result_1 = self.__lt__(other)
result_2 = self.__eq__(other)
if result_1 is NotImplemented and result_2 is NotImplemented:
return NotImplemented
return result_1 or result_2

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[issue41866] Document error in chinese version of contextlib.

[Irit Katriel]

Irit Katriel  added the comment:

You might find some information here: 
https://devguide.python.org/documenting/#translating

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[issue41867] Include options for timespec in docstrings of isoformat

[Ram Rachum]

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[issue41867] Include options for timespec in docstrings of isoformat

[Ram Rachum]

New submission from Ram Rachum :

Writing the patch now.

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[issue41866] Document error in chinese version of contextlib.

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Only found the source rst of the English version, doesn't know where the 
chinese version sources resides.

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[issue41866] Document error in chinese version of contextlib.

[siyuan0322]

New submission from siyuan0322 :

In the Chinese version of documentation (both simplified and tradinational) of 
contextlib, the URL of `__enter__` and `__exit__` of 
[`contextlib.AbstractContextManager`](https://docs.python.org/zh-cn/3/library/contextlib.html#contextlib.AbstractContextManager)
 is pointing to the `__aenter__` and `__aexit__` method, which is a small 
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[issue41864] Compiler error in _zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not allowed inside functions

[Dong-hee Na]

Dong-hee Na  added the comment:

see also: https://bugs.python.org/issue40686

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[issue41851] tkinter: add font equal methods

[E. Paine]

E. Paine  added the comment:

> Why would negating the font size convert it from points to pixels??

Oh... I apologise: I clearly didn't think this through. It doesn't "convert" in 
any sense, it just negates the font size so 16 points becomes 16 pixels. 
Therefore, it is practically useless (besides, a new font object would not help 
the user a converted value anyway) - I therefore do not wish to proceed this 
this part of the issue (I have removed it from the title and will remove it 
from the PR).

> I also think using [.equal] wouldn't add anything

I disagree and will stand by this one! While the user could easily write it 
themselves, I think it would be helpful to have a convenience method to check 
if two fonts represent the same thing that is displayed to the user. When first 
creating this issue, I didn't want to touch __eq__ for two reasons:
1. I didn't know how much code changing this would break (it is very hard to 
check for code usage of dunder methods - if you know any ways please let me 
know!)
2. Checking to see if the fonts are the same Tk object is also very helpful (in 
other, granted fewer, contexts)

For example, something like this could be used in IDLE so that if the user sets 
their font back to the equivalent of the default ("TkFixedFont"), the value 
isn't kept in the user's local config (similar to how all the other options do).

Therefore, while I would like this somehow added, I agree that adding an 
`equal` method that does not do the same thing as `==` is confusing (you just 
have to look at Java and all the confusion over using `==` on strings - a 
'gotcha' for every new Java learner). However, as I said above, I am reluctant 
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[issue41822] Document the meaning of values for sys.float_info.rounds

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[issue39326] Python-3.8.1 "test_importlib" failed

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[issue41851] tkinter: add font neg and equal methods

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

As for an equal() method, I think that adding equal() which is different than 
the existing __eq__() would be a source of confusion. I also think using it 
wouldn't add anything, and would be less clear, compared to font1.actual() == 
font2.actual().

I'm definitely not happy with the existing __eq__() though, and think it would 
be worth discussing changing __eq__() to use self.actual() == other.actual() 
rather than just comparing names. That should be a separate issue, though - 
you're welcome to create one!

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[issue41851] tkinter: add font neg and equal methods

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

Why would negating the font size convert it from points to pixels?? It seems to 
be coming straight from Tk; is this documented anywhere?

I'd greatly prefer that we use a properly named property instead, e.g. 
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[issue41865] doc search for super().__init__() returns no useful results

[Jack W.]

New submission from Jack W. :

It's oddly difficult to glean from the official documentation the correct 
syntax for superclass initialization.

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[issue35765] Document references object x but doesn't show it in the example

[Vedran Čačić]

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I think it would be simpler to just remove the empty name `x`.

"If you have an object, you can ...".

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[issue41858] Fix incomplete line on optparse documentation

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

I agree with Terry that the current form is not incorrect, as well as with his 
suggestion to inline the commands for printing the usage info.

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[issue41428] PEP 604 -- Allow writing union types as X | Y

[STINNER Victor]

STINNER Victor  added the comment:

> Now that PR 21515 is landed, we should consider what sections of the 
> docs/spec needs to be updated.

Any update on the documentation?

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[issue1635741] Py_Finalize() doesn't clear all Python objects at exit

[Dong-hee Na]

Dong-hee Na  added the comment:


New changeset 2afd1751dd9a35d4ec03b708e3e5cddd72c43f7e by Dong-hee Na in branch 
'master':
bpo-1635741: Port _bisect module to multi-phase init (GH-22415)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/2afd1751dd9a35d4ec03b708e3e5cddd72c43f7e


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[issue41864] Compiler error in _zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not allowed inside functions

[Karthikeyan Singaravelan]

Change by Karthikeyan Singaravelan :


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[issue41428] PEP 604 -- Allow writing union types as X | Y

[STINNER Victor]

STINNER Victor  added the comment:


New changeset d73cf7ca85fb60b739e671597aabe72cc36d397a by Victor Stinner in 
branch 'master':
bpo-41428: Fix compiler warning in unionobject.c (GH-22416)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d73cf7ca85fb60b739e671597aabe72cc36d397a


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[issue41864] Compiler error in _zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not allowed inside functions

[Karthikeyan Singaravelan]

Change by Karthikeyan Singaravelan :


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[issue41861] Convert sqlite3 to PEP 384

[Erlend Egeberg Aasland]

Change by Erlend Egeberg Aasland :


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[issue40042] Enum Flag: psuedo-members have None for name attribute

[Irit Katriel]

Irit Katriel  added the comment:

I see in the code of _create_pseudo_member_ that _name_ is deliberately set to 
None, and furthermore in __str__ and __repr__ the fact that it is None is used 
to determine whether self is a composite (pseudo) or not.

So first question is whether this should be fixed.

If so, I see two options:

1. Establish another way to determine whether self is a composite or not, and 
change they way _name_ is initialised.

2. Leave _name_ as is, but override name (which currently is defined in Enum 
and simply returns _name_ but can be redefined to do something else).

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[issue41428] PEP 604 -- Allow writing union types as X | Y

[STINNER Victor]

Change by STINNER Victor :


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[issue41864] Compiler error in _zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not allowed inside functions

[micwin]

New submission from micwin :

Python 3.9.0rc2
OS: centos 6.10
Compiler: gcc (GCC) 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-23)

configure && make 

Python-3.9.0rc2/Modules/_zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not 
allowed inside functions
Python-3.9.0rc2/Modules/_zoneinfo.c:1228: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not 
allowed inside functions
Python-3.9.0rc2/Modules/_zoneinfo.c:1229: warning: comparison is always false 
due to limited range of data type
Python-3.9.0rc2/Modules/_zoneinfo.c:1230: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not 
allowed inside functions


Proposed fix, here the diff:

1227d1226
< #if defined(__GNUC__) && __GNUC__ >= 5
1230d1228
< #endif
1232d1229
< #if defined(__GNUC__) && __GNUC__ >= 5
1234d1230
< #endif

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nosy: micwin
priority: normal
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status: open
title: Compiler error in _zoneinfo.c:1227: error: #pragma GCC diagnostic not 
allowed inside functions
type: compile error
versions: Python 3.9

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[issue41799] splunklib.client does not handle Unicode characters

[Eric V. Smith]

Change by Eric V. Smith :


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[issue40257] Improve the use of __doc__ in pydoc

[Emmanuel Arias]

Change by Emmanuel Arias :


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[issue41859] Uncaught ValueError

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

On Windows, the only key I found that closed the completion box via 
keyrelease_event is Left Arrow.  If I explicitly caught that, the method might 
not be needed on Windows.  Next I will look at the triplets list and how 
something might be missing or deleted twice.

On my Mac Airbook with current 3.8.6 and 3.9.0rc2, I cannot get a completion 
box, even with the menu.  Do you have the same issue?

Reports with a traceback, like this one, are helpful and welcome.  If possible, 
include and information about either the code or action that triggered the 
exception.

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[issue29940] Add follow_wrapped=True option to help()

[Tal Einat]

Tal Einat  added the comment:

The issue was not that __doc__ was not copied, but that help() would use the 
class's __doc__ when called on an instance, even if that instance had its own 
__doc__.

See the StackOverflow question for another example.

You will not see this issue with the latest master branch, because it has 
already been resolved by PR GH-19479, as described and discussed in issue40257.

Closing as "out of date".

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