[issue32840] Must install python 3.6.3 when 3.6.4 already installed
New submission from J. Morton <mort...@navcanada.ca>: Got a 0x8070666 "Setup Failed - another version installed" popup message when installing 3.6.3 with 3.6.4 and 3.5.1 already installed (all are "just for me" installs). The problem is independent of word length. It should be possible to install any/every earlier version (within reason) provided the earlier version is "virtualized" by being placed in it's own folder (which I was what I was doing). Please accomodate this capability as it is often needed to support users using earlier versions of Python. Environment: 64 bit Win7 Enterprise SP1 on a IM controlled machine. Possible red herring: IM recently upgraded java on this machine to "1.8.0_151". 32 and 64 bit versions of all releases are installed on this machine. -- components: Installation messages: 312138 nosy: NaCl priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Must install python 3.6.3 when 3.6.4 already installed type: behavior versions: Python 3.6 ___ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue32840> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22516] Windows Installer won't - even when using just for meoption
J. Morton added the comment: As the originator, I've noticed that the discussion (while illuminating - and a lot more than I expected!) seems to have gone off on several tangents. I'd like to remind everyone that this request is for an unrestricted Windows install (e.g. binary) package of standard/basic python - nothing more. Not to dampen the discussion but I see side issues such as impact on other O/S's, use of other (non-CPython) distributions, etc. as being outside the scope of the request. While side issues may need to be considered while working on the request they should be raised as separate issues, not handled under this one. Also, issues related to how this request affects specific plug ins, e.g. numpy, also seem to be out of scope for this request (since users add them after successful installation) and should be handled in a similar matter. My view anyway, YMMV -- components: -Windows ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22516 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22516] Windows Installer won't - even when using just for meoption
J. Morton added the comment: First, thanks for the comments - perhaps there's hope. But from the viewpoint of a typical user (who does not care about what goes on in the background), some of what has been said does not match the realities of development in a corporate environment. 1 – Anyone who is working on a Windows box controlled by an overly anal-retentive IM department (i.e. no admin rights) will not be able to install Python. Either make the “just for me” option unrestricted or remove it entirely. Time wasted trying to install Python when it can’t be done does endear Python to new users and comes across as being rather unprofessional. I haven’t gone to the web page lately, but as an absolute minimum the page for the “just for me” option needs to state that Admin rights are needed. 2 – Anyone forced to use Windows and is NOT a total python fanatic will NEVER go to the pain of building it. In the corporate world - on any platform - this approach is generally unrealistic given the other tools already out there (not worth the time/effort/pain involved, especially if the boss is breathing down your neck about the project schedule). And even if they want to, they may not be able to build/install it – no tools, as per point 1. 3 – I do not see the comments (in msg238567) “require a second MSI that is configured to not ask for administrative privileges” and “hosting twice of many files” as having much validity. To better serve the community a better approach is to REPLACE the pointlessly restrictive “admin rights” installer with an unrestricted version (it’s how I got Firefox on this machine) – hence only one set of files. This set should be, as much as possible, completely independent of everything else on the system (disk space is cheap, networks are fast and the file sizes are, relatively speaking, small). 4 - I haven't yet tried the MSI' workaround (in msg238560) so I don't know if it will work on my restricted system. If it does, the workaround should appear on the web page. Finally (as pure self-interest) I'd like a version compatible with Eclipse/PyDev. I do appreciate and encourage what you guys are doing and also understand the realities of what you do. But my viewpoint is, that to have closed this issue without properly addressing the basic problem reminds me of an ostrich with its head in the sand. -- status: closed - languishing ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22516 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22516] Windows Installer won't - even when using just for meoption
New submission from J. Morton: Could not install 3.4.1 on Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 using the .MSI installer, even when using the ”just for me” option (our IM department has not given us the necessary rights to run the .MSI installer even in this mode). Please consider providing 3.4.1 (and all future releases) in a non “.MSI” file so that “admin” rights are not needed to do the install (a simple ZIP file? something similar to www.portableapps.com ?). Or as a source “tarball” for Windows machines – ideally one that is independent of compiler vendor (compileable using gcc, etc. instead of MSVC). -- components: Installation messages: 227832 nosy: NaCl, tim.golden priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Windows Installer won't - even when using just for meoption versions: Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22516 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
