[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-27 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-27 Thread STINNER Victor

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-27 Thread Piéronne Jean-François

Piéronne Jean-François piero...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

What we have planed is to release 2.7 in september, and I think we will be on 
time, so we can start working on 3.x in october, is it compatible with your 
schedule?

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-27 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

PEP 398 -- Python 3.3 Release Schedule
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0398/

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread Stefan Krah

Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:

I wrote to the maintainer of vmspython, and he said this:

Python on VMS is actively maintained, for example you can take a look at
http://www.vmspython.org/ and http://www.vmspython.org/History
Our plan are to port, this year 2.7, then 3.x.


So the vmspython project looks active, but that still does not help
us of course. I hope Jean-François will comment here.

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread Piéronne Jean-François

Piéronne Jean-François piero...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

How can we help you ?

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread Jesús Cea Avión

Jesús Cea Avión j...@jcea.es added the comment:

Would be possible to publish a notice in python insider blog?.Enigmail

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 How can we help you ?

Please contribute a full, complete, working VMS port to Python 3.3.

I never understood whether the code that we have is supposed to be
complete, in the sense that you get a working Python out of it
(rather, I understood that this never was the case - that you always
needed additional pieces to make it do something useful).

Another step to demonstrate ongoing support would be to contribute
a VMS build slave, so that committers without VMS (which is nearly
100%) can actually find out whether it continues to work after
changes.

I'd also like to see a dedicated maintainer nominated - a person who'll
respond to bug reports about the VMS support; if that person ever
leaves, and no new maintainer is nominated, the code would again be
up for removal.

If no demonstrable improvement is contributed to Python 3.3, I'd
continue with the PEP 11 process.

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot devnull@devnull added the comment:

New changeset ec754f8d2917 by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue #11918: OS/2 and VMS are no more supported because of the lack of
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/ec754f8d2917

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-26 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

 The patch looks fine; please add a reference to PEP 11 
 into the error messages

Ok, done.

 Our plan are to port, this year 2.7, then 3.x.

VMS is unsupported in 3.3 and the code will be removed in 3.4. If anyone comes 
with patches to have a working VMS version before Python 3.4, we can support 
VMS again and just forget the PEP 11 deprecation.

 Would be possible to publish a notice in python insider blog?

Sure, but I don't want to write it. Contact Doug Hellmann for that. Marc Andre 
Lemburg is also volunteer to write such notice.

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread STINNER Victor

New submission from STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com:

Because we don't have any OS/2 and VMS maintainer for Python 3, I propose to 
drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3: OSes unsupported in 3.3, code removed 
in 3.4 (see the PEP 11 for the process).

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread Jesús Cea Avión

Changes by Jesús Cea Avión j...@jcea.es:


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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread Nadeem Vawda

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread STINNER Victor

Changes by STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com:


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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

@loewis: Would you like to review the patch?

You wrote on python-dev:

For OS/2, I propose to syntactically break the makefile
and
For VMS, I *think* the build process is configure-based (but I may
misremember); if so, adding an exit into configure.in would be
appropriate.

But I don't know how to do that.

I added two #error for each OS, I hope that it is enough. But I am unable to 
test my patch, I don't have access to these OSes :-)

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

Oh, I just realized that the PEP 11 doesn't ask to mention unsupported OSes in 
the What's new document. New patch to mention that OS/2 and VMS are no more 
supported.

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread STINNER Victor

Changes by STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file21779/unsupport_os2_vms.patch

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[issue11918] Drop OS/2 and VMS support in Python 3.3

2011-04-25 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

The patch looks fine; please add a reference to PEP 11 into the error messages, 
though (so that people can find out that they can volunteer to maintain it).

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