[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Westley Martínez added the comment: I think I like the term catalog myself, but I'm not wholly opposed to index. I think it is certainly better than pypi. Although the namespace does reduce the genericness of index, a lot of programmers (including me) like to use the from namespace import x method. I think that's considerable. That said, programmers could use from packaging import index as pindex or some sort to alleviate this. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Éric Araujo added the comment: The issue is moot now that packaging/distutils2 is stopped. -- resolution: - out of date stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: Fully agreed with Alexis. index is too generic to convey any kind of meaning and can be confused--at least for me--with list.index. Sometimes it is better for a name to be specific. But it is specific, thanks to the use of namespaces in Python: it’s distutils2.index/packaging.index. Also take into account that this a module name that will be seen by people writing packaging tools (and thus familiar with “the Python Packages Index”), not end-users which may be Python developers. Hynek: I don’t understand “I also think that the pypi term is overloaded with both meanings”. -- versions: +Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
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[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
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[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment: The problem is that PyPI isn't a good name since it's the name of ONE index. Westley, do you have any other idea? Otherwise, I think we should stick to index, which is a good name for something that's named index quite everywhere already. Especially because it's living under the packaging namespace. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Westley Martínez aniko...@gmail.com added the comment: -1 index is too generic to convey any kind of meaning and can be confused--atleast for me--with list.index. Sometimes it is better for a name to be specific. -- nosy: +anikom15 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment: We are all calling these indexes quite everywhere. We are talking about a Python Package Index and even the mirroring infrastructure is talking about indexes. Because that's under the packaging namespace, it's kind of obvious that this deals with indexes like PyPI. Of course, we also have the documentation which is a good starting point to make people realize what this is about; but I really don't think naming this index will be a blocker for anyone. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
New submission from Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org: PyPI is the name of a particular index, whereas index is a generic term. So ISTM that it would be better to use the latter, semantically-wise. -- assignee: alexis components: Distutils2 messages: 162027 nosy: alexis, tarek priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index type: enhancement versions: Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Hynek Schlawack h...@ox.cx added the comment: While I can see your point, I think that index is way too generic. I also think that the pypi term is overloaded with both meanings. -- nosy: +hynek ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14974] rename packaging.pypi to packaging.index
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: We could use “catalog” (see how the interest group for PyPI is named catalog-sig), but it sounds a bit abstract to me, and at the same time fails to convey that this module deals with finding things (in an index/catalog) and also download them (from PyPI or third-party sites). Anyway I don’t think names can be perfect; just like distutils2.database may be ambiguous if one doesn’t know that it works with the database of installed projects, distutils2.index can be ambiguous if one doesn’t know that the repository of information (and sometimes downloads) is called an index. +1 for distutils2.index +0.3 for distutils2.repository (long, and mostly used with VCS these days) ±0 for distutils2.pypi -- nosy: +eric.araujo versions: +3rd party ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14974 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
