[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 48185b0f7b8a by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.2': #15437, #15439: merge Doc/ACKS.txt with Misc/ACKS and modify Doc/about.rst accordingly. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/48185b0f7b8a New changeset 2b4a89f82485 by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default': #15437, #15439: merge with 3.2. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2b4a89f82485 New changeset 76dd082d332e by Ezio Melotti in branch '2.7': #15437, #15439: merge Doc/ACKS.txt with Misc/ACKS and modify Doc/about.rst accordingly. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/76dd082d332e -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Ezio Melotti added the comment: Fixed, thanks for the script! -- assignee: docs@python - ezio.melotti resolution: - fixed stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: Thanks for committing, Ezio! -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: Just an FYI that Ezio asked Georg about this issue on IRC yesterday or the day before, and Georg said +1. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: I was reminded of this issue by the following e-mail today: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-September/121639.html I updated the script I attached earlier to ensure that it can also be run against the names in 2.7 (attaching now as script #3). I also checked that this latest script can still be run against 3.2 and default with the names that have been added since the last time I checked. Let me know if you would like any assistance in how to run the script and what to check for, etc. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file27157/merge-acks-3.py ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Changes by Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com: -- nosy: +asvetlov ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: Is this issue awaiting feedback from anyone else before it can proceed further? (Just this issue and not issue 15439 to make any adjustments to the docs.) I am attaching an updated diff after generating the script output again against the tip (modified to prefix matching last names with ' '). -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file26711/issue-15437-script-output-2.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: For completeness, I am attaching the modified version of the script that was used to generate the latest output. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file26712/merge-acks-2.py ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: I don't think the docs should display Misc/ACKS. Instead, I propose the following wording Many people have contributed to the Python language, the Python standard library, and the Python documentation. See Misc/ACKS in the Python source distribution for a partial list of contributors It might be useful to link Misc/ACKS to http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/default/Misc/ACKS (http://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/default/Misc/ACKS would be better if hgweb wouldn't declare that application/octet-stream) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: We can just use :source:`Misc/ACKS` and it will created a link to hgweb (the colored HTML page, not the raw file). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com added the comment: I created a new issue 15439 for including the combined Misc/ACKS into the documentation (as Éric mentioned) because the nature of that discussion is different, and because the changes will be easier to observe and understand if committed separately. -- title: Merge Doc/ACKS and Misc/ACKS - Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment: I'm not clear if your script is trying to do this, but there is no way to automatically alphabetize the file. That's why it says rough alphabetic order. The issue is that different languages alphabetize different letters in different places. We try to respect the alphabetization of the source language as much as practical...which means there is no algorithm that can do the sorting, since the names in the file do not carry explicit language information. -- nosy: +r.david.murray ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Well, the script output looks good (apart from a few duplicates which can be resolved by hand, e.g. Terry Reedy vs. Terry J. Reedy). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com added the comment: I did think through those issues and made a special effort to address them in the script. For starters, the script does not change the order of any names in Misc/ACKS. This is to preserve the existing rough alphabetical ordering, and to ensure that the diff consists only of insertions (for easier manual checking, if desired). As for inserting new names in rough alphabetical order, I dealt with different language characters as follows. The script has a translation table to map non-ascii characters to ascii characters for sorting purposes. Currently, that table is as follows (I'm not sure if all of these characters will render on the page): NON_ASCII = ÅÉØáäåæçéëíñóôöùúüćęŁńŽКМСабгекнорш“” ASCII_SUB = 'AEOceeinooouuuceLnZKMCabrekhopw' This mapping can easily be modified if my initial choices are not the best. As an early step, the script collects all non-ascii characters that appear in all names to make sure the translation table is up to date (exiting with a message otherwise). When I said Jeff McNeil is out of order, that was because the name appears after Jeff Epler but before Tom Epperly. The script maintains a list of out of order names like this to skip when inserting, to prevent insertions from being out of rough alphabetical order. If different languages use a different ordering on the word level, the script will not handle that, however. It only orders lexicographically by last name, and then first name(s). Much of this information is spelled out in the script's docstring. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com added the comment: That is correct, Antoine. Duplicates need to be removed by hand. To assist in this process, the script currently prints possible duplicates to stdout after running. However, the script could easily be modified to display an in-line indicator before possible duplicates to make this manual step easier, e.g.: John Redford Terry Reedy + Terry J. Reedy Gareth Rees Currently, possible duplicates are determined based on whether the last name matches an already existing last name. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15437] Merge Doc/ACKS.txt names into Misc/ACKS
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: To assist in this process, the script currently prints possible duplicates to stdout after running. However, the script could easily be modified to display an in-line indicator before possible duplicates to make this manual step easier, e.g.: John Redford Terry Reedy + Terry J. Reedy Gareth Rees Well, no need to be perfectionist IMO. The merging will only be done once (thrice if we count all branches :-)). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment: Also, if you want to do phonetic translation of non-ASCII, then абгекнор really matches abgeknor, and ш is transliterated to sh in English (IIUC) (to sch in German). But I agree that this is best done manually. What matters is what the script produces; the script certainly won't make it into Python's source code. I'm sure Chris had fun writing it. -- keywords: -easy nosy: +loewis ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Chris Jerdonek chris.jerdo...@gmail.com added the comment: Yes, I did. Even though it is throw-away. By the way, I'm taking Antoine's advice to avoid perfectionism on this. Otherwise I'd include your suggestion re: the special characters. :) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15437 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
