[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Ned Deily]

Ned Deily  added the comment:

A suggestion: rather than trying to maintain a separate IDLE news file ("don't 
repeat yourself), it might be much easier to link to the IDLE section in each 
releases's formatted CHANGELOG now included in Python 3 docsets.  For example:

https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/changelog.html#idle
or
https://docs.python.org/3.8/whatsnew/changelog.html#idle

Yes, users would have to scroll down to each release's IDLE section but I 
suspect that wouldn't be a huge burden considering how infrequently change 
files are consulted.  To be even more useful, IDLE could first attempt to find 
the changelog in the Python installer's bundled copy of the docset like the F1 
key does.  For example, with the macOS installer, the corresponding file URL is:

file:///Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/Resources/English.lproj/Documentation/whatsnew/changelog.html#idle

--
nosy: +ned.deily

___
Python tracker 

___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Separate news items are now consolidated during the release process.  But two 
issue with copying them.  1. They are not line wrapped, whereas news.txt is.  
2. I don't always make (or keep) entries identical.

--
versions: +Python 3.10 -Python 3.6, Python 3.7

___
Python tracker 

___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

To minimize news merge headaches, I have been pushing news items separately 
from IDLE patches, usually in batches of at least two.  It has not been too 
much bother to copy from NEWS.txt to NEWS.

If and when news handling is automated, I will request that items directed at 
the IDLE section also go to NEWS.txt.

--
components: +IDLE
versions: +Python 3.6, Python 3.7 -Python 2.7, Python 3.3, Python 3.4

___
Python tracker 

___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Roundup Robot]

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset aa059a8fb55a by Terry Jan Reedy in branch '2.7':
Issue #17506: Synchronize Misc/NEWS and idlelib/NEWS.txt for 2.7.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/aa059a8fb55a

--
nosy: +python-dev

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

The items in Misc/NEWS and idlelib/NEWS.text were mostly disjoint.

--

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Ezio Melotti]

Ezio Melotti added the comment:

Setting #17221 as a dependency.  Once that is fixed it would be good to keep 
IDLE entries in Misc/NEWS, and copy them in Lib/idlelib/NEWS.txt before the 
release.

--
dependencies: +Resort Misc/NEWS

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

I put 1 or 2 items in idlelib/NEWS, but it does not really matter which way 
they go. I guess the greater separation in Misc/NEWS says they should go there 
first, as moving to idlelib would delete reliease info. I will move the one 
item over sometime, maybe after the big patch.

--

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Roger Serwy]

Roger Serwy added the comment:

This is related to #17221. I agree that news items need to be consolidated in 
both Misc/NEWS and Lib/idlelib/NEWS.txt.

--
nosy: +roger.serwy

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Terry J. Reedy]

New submission from Terry J. Reedy:

Idle news items should be collected together in one place and released both in 
an IDLE section of each Misc/NEWS and in each idlelib/NEWS.txt. Once a decision 
is made where to collect them originally, a script should be written to make 
appropriate copies. If someone volunteers, scattered entries in current 
Misc/NEWS could be collected together.

--
assignee: terry.reedy
messages: 184858
nosy: terry.reedy
priority: normal
severity: normal
stage: needs patch
status: open
title: Improve IDLE news handling
versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.3, Python 3.4

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com

[issue17506] Improve IDLE news handling

[Ezio Melotti]

Ezio Melotti added the comment:

I think it would be better to keep everything in an IDLE section in Misc/NEWS, 
and have something/someone extract the section(s) before the release.  In 
Lib/idlelib/NEWS.txt we probably don't need to have separate sections for 
alphas/betas/rcs like we do in Misc/NEWS.

--
nosy: +ezio.melotti
type:  - enhancement

___
Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org
http://bugs.python.org/issue17506
___
___
Python-bugs-list mailing list
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com