[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-03-07 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset 2a922153463e by Brett Cannon in branch 'default':
Issue #20812: Add a short opener to the Python 2/3 porting HOWTO.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2a922153463e

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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-03-07 Thread Brett Cannon

Changes by Brett Cannon br...@python.org:


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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-03-07 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset c83ce2a1841c by Brett Cannon in branch 'default':
null merge for issue #20812
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/c83ce2a1841c

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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-03-01 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon added the comment:

Something like this should go at the top almost as a tl;dr to get the point 
across that regardless of the state of your dependencies, start writing Python 
3-compatible code **today** and if you must update old code piecemeal. I'll add 
something next time I have time (should be Friday).

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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-02-28 Thread Nick Coghlan

New submission from Nick Coghlan:

A thread on python-ideas made me realised the migration guide is currently 
missing a section: migrating integrated applications.

This needs to cover:

- caniusepython3 to check dependencies for compatibility
- if dependencies are ready, and Python 2 compatibility can be dropped 
completely, the 2to3 based migration path
- if dependencies aren't ready yet, the Python 2 - 2/3 source on Python 2 - 
2/3 source on Python 3 - Python 3 migration path
- if dependencies are ready but Python 2 compatibility is still needed, the 
Python 2 only - 2/3 source on Python 2 or 3 - Python 3 only migration path

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title: Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide
type: enhancement
versions: Python 3.4

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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-02-28 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

I'm not sure what your last two points are saying, but my take on both of them 
is the main codebase should move to shared source Python2/Python3 if possible.  
That's what I'm doing for my own projects.  Testing the Python3 compatibility 
depends on whether or not you can write your tests to not depend on the 
non-ported components, but often that is possible.

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[issue20812] Explicitly cover application migration in the 2-3 guide

2014-02-28 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Expanded version:

For developers of integrated applications that currently still have
some dependencies on Python 2, the preferred migration path is to use
tools like python-modernize or python-future to shift first into the
large common subset of Python 2 and Python 3, and then only later
switch fully to Python 3. This approach permits application developers
to take the following path:

1. Python 2 only (status quo)
2. Python 2/3 compatible on Python 2 (waiting for dependencies)
3. Python 2/3 compatible on Python 3 (dependencies ported or replaced)
4. Python 3 only (drop Python 2 support)

Brett Cannon's caniusepython3 tool
(https://pypi.python.org/pypi/caniusepython3/) is designed to automate
the dependency analysis to see if all declared dependencies are Python
3 compatible (or have suitable alternatives available). However, if
you're using system packages for dependency management, some data
transformations will be needed to convert them to a form that the tool
understands.
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From https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2014-March/026343.html

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