[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-23 Thread Berker Peksag

Changes by Berker Peksag berker.pek...@gmail.com:


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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-22 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor added the comment:

 The patch LGTM but there is Borland C support in distutils

As discussed on python-dev, it's fine to support more C compiler to compile 
extensions, than compilers supported to build Python itself.

 there are several mentions in the documentation

I did a quick check. It looks like Borland is usally mentionned to compile 
extensions, not to compile Python.

 May be there are mentions in some build-support files.

Which files?

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-22 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot added the comment:

New changeset f2ce9603346c by Victor Stinner in branch 'default':
Issue #22592: Drop support of the Borland C compiler to build Python
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f2ce9603346c

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-22 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor added the comment:

Ok, I pushed my patch. If you see remaining parts of the Borland C compiler, 
you can remove them in a different changeset (reopen maybe the issue?).

For distutils, I consider that it's a different topic. If you want to drop 
support of this compiler in distutils, please open a new issue.

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor added the comment:

It looks like Larry Hastings supports indirectly this issue :-)
We still have #ifdef's for Borland C--I'd be very surprised if anyone was 
compiling Python 3 with Borland C.
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-October/136626.html

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

I don't know how reliable that Web site is, but apparently it may still be used 
for education:
http://borlandc.org/

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Antoine, antique Turbo Pascal 7.0 (for DOS!) [1] is widely used for education 
in xUSSR countries. Due to a bug [2] in the crt unit most education examples 
can't be ran on computers with modern processors (Pentium MMX and newer) and 
are ran under DosBox [3].

School teachers often are very conservative. The use of something for education 
doesn't means that it is used for other purposes.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runtime_error_200
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

As for Borland C, it was reincarnated as Borland C++ Builder [1] and then as 
Embarcadero C++ Builder. I doubt that anyone was compiling Python 3 with it.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2BBuilder

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou added the comment:

Then +1 from me for removing support.

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-15 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

The patch LGTM but there is Borland C support in distutils and there are 
several mentions in the documentation. May be there are mentions in some 
build-support files.

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-09 Thread STINNER Victor

New submission from STINNER Victor:

As a follow-up of the issue #22591, I propose to drop support of the Borland C 
compiler.

In 2000, it was nice to support Visual Studio and Borland C++ Builder, because 
they were the two most popular compilers on Windows. Borland C compiler could 
also be used on MS-DOS.

But Borland stopped the development of its C compiler, it looks like the last 
release is Borland C++ Builder, which was released in 2000 (I'm not sure). So 
this proprietary compiler is now 14 years old.

Python now focus on Visual Studio support. Microsoft gives us free licenses and 
a developer of Microsoft will probably build our binaries for Python 3.5. So 
Borland C++ Builder support is now almost useless.

On Windows, I would prefer to focus our effort on open source compilers like 
GCC or OpenWatcom(v2). See for example the issue #22579.

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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-09 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

Changes by Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com:


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[issue22592] Drop support of Borland C compiler

2014-10-09 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor added the comment:

And now with a patch.

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file36857/drop_borlandc_support.patch

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