[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

You are on your own for AIX debugging, I'm afraid.  You can try the #python-dev 
channel on freenode for questions about how things work in general.  If you 
find real problems with the python code you can open new issues (we have 
accepted patches for AIX when they were not AIX specific or were adjustments to 
existing AIX conditionals...we need an AIX buildbot to provide real AIX 
support).

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread REIX Tony

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About test_io, when running it alone by:
./python ./Lib/test/test_io.py  /tmp/test_io.res
I got NO error !

Done 2 times on each of my 2 AIX machines.

Hu Why these tests do block in the middle ?

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread REIX Tony

REIX Tony added the comment:

I got strange things:

Tests blocked in:
[300/400/22] test_signal

and:

# ps -edf | grep python
root  7405612 12320954   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root  7929900 34209932   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 12320954 34209932   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 16384082 34209932   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 34209932  4325570   0 14:46:14  pts/2  3:28 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 43712512 34209932   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 53477604 12320954   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 56819916 12320954   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 57409628 12320954   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io
root 58458148 34209932   0 14:52:04  pts/2  0:00 ./python -m -c -l -x 
test_io

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread REIX Tony

REIX Tony added the comment:

Hum
I'm now building Python 2.7.10 RPMs on AIX.
The .spec file works fine.
However, when adding make test in the .spec file, I've got the tests blocked in 
test_io. The same with 2.7.6 .

Going into the directory and trying make quicktest, it is now blocked after 
test_signal :
# ps -edf | grep python
root 154010881   0 11:54:03  pts/1  4:49 ./python -Wd -3 -E -tt 
./Lib/test/regrtest.py -l

Retrying with 2.7.6, it is blocked again with test_io.

OK. Either it is a general issue with Python tests, or there is an issue on AIX.
Investigating.

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread REIX Tony

REIX Tony added the comment:

Yes. I'm on my own for AIX debugging. I'm afraid too.
;)
OK. What I need is build more skills about how to get into deep details when 
things run badly. Lot of fun. ;)
Thx

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-30 Thread REIX Tony

REIX Tony added the comment:

Thnaks for the information.
I'm surprised that:
  $ make test  Go.res3 21 
makes issues that do not appear with:
  $ nohup make test  Go.res3 21 
Anyway, we know the root cause now, and there is a work-around.
So, closing the defect is OK for me.

About the comment Python has been used on AIX by other, I'm sure that Python2 
has been ported on AIX. About Python3, I have found no one for AIX. I'll have 
another look.

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-29 Thread Stefan Krah

Stefan Krah added the comment:

 $ make test  Go.res3 21 

The test suite does seem to behave poorly when run in the background:
I'm getting constant swapping, excessive kworker activity, and indeed,
one hang.

With nohup prepended at least the tests have finished now.

I'm not sure if the tests are meant to be run in the background.

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-29 Thread R. David Murray

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We certainly don't regularly test running them that way :)

It might be interesting to make it possible, if it doesn't require too many 
changes to the tests.  Excessive swapping seems like an odd symptom; I'm sure 
the explanation will be interesting if someone decides to figure it out.

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-29 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

Let's close it, since we've identified the problem and it is not something we 
currently support.  If someone finds this and wants to work on it they can open 
a new issue.

(It reopened because I had it set to pending...I didn't close it because I 
thought someone else might have some relevant insight, as proved to be the 
case...)

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-29 Thread Stefan Krah

Stefan Krah added the comment:

Personally I'm happy to run the tests in the foreground. :)

BTW, I didn't intend to reopen this one.  Shall we close it
or do you want to keep it open for improving the test suite?

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[issue24741] Hangs and errors while testing on Ubuntu/Intel

2015-07-28 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray added the comment:

Since Ubuntu is one of the platforms that gets thoroughly tested and neither 
the buildbots nor other users have reported issues, your best source for help 
on this is probably either the python-list mailing list, or an Ubuntu forum.

FYI the 3.4 buildbots are currently testing 3.4 tip, which will eventually 
become 3.4.4.  Also, Python has been used on AIX by others, have you already 
looked for an existing distribution?

If you find you really have identified bugs in python, you can update this 
issue.

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